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Is this correct?
-Always exchange trophy for 2h weapon because there's the least chance of receiving useless crap, even if you need cloth, exchange trophy for 2h weapon, sell weapon, buy cloth.

You're gambling on the chance to get a ethereal mace. Nowadays I just shrine among 2-handed, clothes, light and heavy armors to see if I have any luck.

did the exp get cut in half or something? anyone else experiencing this?

Hm....don't think so.
Maybe the PL distribution from lv.200 lowers the average PL of monsters you've faced.
Usually I don't find anyone with that problem, so maybe you just speculate too much/forgot to have 10 posts/forgot stamina setting etc.

probably, been at it for like 5 hours.



Is getting 2 phase gear out of 250 trophies the norm?
I ended up getting these 2:
Fine Phase Pants of Mjolnir : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b50905835c
Fair Phase Pants of Niflheim : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a1bed15fde

They any good?

This post has been edited by trikon000: Mar 17 2012, 09:58

You're gambling on the chance to get a ethereal mace. Nowadays I just shrine among 2-handed, clothes, light and heavy armors to see if I have any luck.

Roughly how many Schoolgirl trophies does it take to get an Ethereal, or an Ethereal Mace to be specific?

This post has been edited by wrinty: Mar 17 2012, 10:11

Around one too many.

Roughly how many Schoolgirl trophies does it take to get an Ethereal, or an Ethereal Mace to be specific?

Well...
1. Ethereals should have about 1% chance to drop.
2. from subjective judgement, you have about 30% chance to get a mace on normal.

So that should be about 300 trophies.

Also...
3. those boss trophies have worse quality, so about half of them won't meet the 'average' tier.
4. Slaughter suffix is at most 10-20% of the roll table...

That would be at least 1000 trophies before you can get an ethereal mace of slaughter.

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 17 2012, 10:24

probably, been at it for like 5 hours.
Is getting 2 phase gear out of 250 trophies the norm?
I ended up getting these 2:
Fine Phase Pants of Mjolnir : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b50905835c
Fair Phase Pants of Niflheim : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a1bed15fde

They any good?

They look ok. Nothing special though.

Probably good enough to sell to beginner mages but thats it.

Well...
1. Ethereals should have about 1% chance to drop.
2. from subjective judgement, you have about 30% chance to get a mace on normal.

So that should be about 300 trophies.

Also...
3. those boss trophies have worse quality, so about half of them won't meet the 'average' tier.
4. Slaughter suffix is at most 10-20% of the roll table...

That would be at least 1000 trophies before you can get an ethereal mace of slaughter.

thats too many to wait for.


This post has been edited by smilejb: Mar 17 2012, 10:26

Is getting 2 phase gear out of 250 trophies the norm?

Unless Tenboro changed the loot table, Cloth should be 30/10/1, meaning the expected value out of 250 trophies would be ~6 Phase pieces.

Unless Tenboro changed the loot table, Cloth should be 30/10/1, meaning the expected value out of 250 trophies would be ~6 Phase pieces.

The loot table should have been changed. I couldn't say the exact composition, but I'm getting way less gossamers than I should if the ratio's 30/10/1.

lol, the short end of the stick again.

lol, the short end of the stick again.

Story of my life man.

Though I finally got an artifact after that long-ass dry spell.

Wonder if it helps that I started with the 13th arena and going up? (usually unlucky but my luck can't get worse anyway). Just did it for the credits though. Decided to just sell all my crap to the bazaar and I'm like 10k short. So went with those and up for the 1k credits and the end.

Edit: now that I think about it, Was looking more for credits than artifacts, probably why I got it. Still not complaining.

Btw, what should I train? scavenger or quartermaster? They are both just about the same price. Difference being less than 1k with quartermaster being the cheaper one.

This post has been edited by smilejb: Mar 17 2012, 11:04

Fact: The chance of getting something you looking for from the shrine is in inverse relationship to how much you expecting for it, as shown by this graph here:


(IMG:[upload.wikimedia.org] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Simple_inverse_relationship_chart.svg/200px-Simple_inverse_relationship_chart.svg.png)


Where X = Expectation, Y = Chance of getting it

There was a period of time that I vowed not to shrine for anything but light armor until I get a SD shade of any quality. I still haven't got a single SD shade up to this day... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by buktore: Mar 17 2012, 11:16

Fact: The chance of getting something you looking for from the shrine is in inverse relationship to how much you expecting for it, as shown by this graph here:
(IMG:[upload.wikimedia.org] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Simple_inverse_relationship_chart.svg/200px-Simple_inverse_relationship_chart.svg.png)
Where X = Expectation, Y = Chance of getting it

I agree. I just got my 4th dexterity from shrining an artifact but I still have 0 for agility from it >_>. Of course I only got those since I became mage too.

The loot table should have been changed. I couldn't say the exact composition, but I'm getting way less gossamers than I should if the ratio's 30/10/1.

If the trophy tiers match normal, you should expect about 1/6 of the gossamer as before, but phase chance should be about the same. 30/10/1 before, 93/5/2 (tentative).

Should I put any points in sleep, it sounds pretty okay until it reads that monster can be awakened by my attack. Considering that mage is using AoE, it's pretty worthless. Any thought?

I've tier-2 elemental/holy spells already maxed.
Would it be advisable to invest in the tier-1 Soul Reaper/Harvest spells at my current level.

Should I put any points in sleep, it sounds pretty okay until it reads that monster can be awakened by my attack. Considering that mage is using AoE, it's pretty worthless. Any thought?

Right, I would skip it.

I've tier-2 elemental/holy spells already maxed.
Would it be advisable to invest in the tier-1 Soul Reaper/Harvest spells at my current level.

Unless you want to fight Real Life now or something, I wouldn't think so. Before 0.6.5 it might have been useful to invest in Soul spells early on in order to start raising your Forbidden proficiency, but that is no longer possible since Soul magic is now based on your Spiritual proficiency instead, which in turn is just the average between your Divine and Forbidden proficiencies. Your damage with Soul spells will be compromised until you can start raising your Forbidden proficiency at level 150. Soul Reaper and Soul Harvest can proc Ripened Soul, which you can use restore some SP (similar to Ether Theft), but I can't really envision you needing to do that for quite a while.

I'm reading this article on the wiki page and I'm a little confused. . Is it true that true equipment of 2 different levels, both higher than mine, would give me the same benefits, assuming they have the same base stats?

And considering that the one of higher level has higher burden and interference, the lower might actually be more beneficial.

Can someone correct me?

I'm reading this article on the wiki page and I'm a little confused. . Is it true that true equipment of 2 different levels, both higher than mine, would give me the same benefits, assuming they have the same base stats?

And considering that the one of higher level has higher burden and interference, the lower might actually be more beneficial.

Can someone correct me?

That's right. No correction needed. But as you level up, the lower lv equip will sooner become useless.

Edit: question: just noticed my curing gets much stronger when I'm using my katalox staff. One katalox cure regains me nearly the same amount of one ebony cure2, although I am not noticing much difference (if at all) in curative and supportive prof between wearing the 2 sets. How can this be?

This post has been edited by LangTuTaiHoa: Mar 17 2012, 17:26

Unless you want to fight Real Life now or something, I wouldn't think so. Before 0.6.5 it might have been useful to invest in Soul spells early on in order to start raising your Forbidden proficiency, but that is no longer possible since Soul magic is now based on your Spiritual proficiency instead, which in turn is just the average between your Divine and Forbidden proficiencies. Your damage with Soul spells will be compromised until you can start raising your Forbidden proficiency at level 150. Soul Reaper and Soul Harvest can proc Ripened Soul, which you can use restore some SP (similar to Ether Theft), but I can't really envision you needing to do that for quite a while.

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Seems like I'm meeting Trio and the tree tonight. Any tips and tricks, or advices? I'm sure I've seen the wiki page that explains the skills of each ultimate in the group (like buffing others...) but can't find it again. Is there any preferred order to kill each one? Like the tree first or something like that?