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May 1 2010, 07:58
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Jonavrek
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 1 2010, 03:52)  I had tried IPU before lvl 110, with Sayo strategy, but not had enough mana. So I wait till getting silence (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) And now FSM with silence, and not enough mana (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Well next time I'll try without silence then.
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May 1 2010, 16:19
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yuripe
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 1 2010, 00:47)  Nope only Ethereal rapier or estoc, at level 100 without PA the damage is below ~100 points(100 OC), and a good bleeding axe can make ~270-300 damage per tick.
I see now. still far for challenge them(really scary hear that from your story to beat them).
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May 1 2010, 18:13
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MasakiLHW
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QUOTE(yuripe @ May 1 2010, 11:19)  I see now. still far for challenge them(really scary hear that from your story to beat them).
I feel the same. I'll challenge Real Life only when I get lvl 170. For me doesn't worth waste that much mana elixir. 10x mana elixir (400c each) it's too much, and I still die for bosses.
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May 1 2010, 18:19
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yuripe
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ May 1 2010, 23:13)  I feel the same. I'll challenge Real Life only when I get lvl 170. For me doesn't worth waste that much mana elixir. 10x mana elixir (400c each) it's too much, and I still die for bosses.
you already have a silence, so I think you can beat RL so easily like cmdct do. @ silly question : if you cast silence to monster, the monster won't attack or still can attack cuz that only special attack, and magic.
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May 1 2010, 19:07
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ May 1 2010, 17:13)  I feel the same. I'll challenge Real Life only when I get lvl 170. For me doesn't worth waste that much mana elixir. 10x mana elixir (400c each) it's too much, and I still die for bosses.
You don't need to worry so much, you have regen II, so with a good bleeding axe you can kill RL easily, I kill it with 8 elixirs, but you probably can do it with 5, so with 13 itmes slots you don't really need to use elixirs, maybe 1 for backup and the rest godlys, but save space for 1 spirit elixir if you have at least 17 SP tanks or 2 if you don't. 2nd experience doesn't hurt, you should have tons of tokens so you can do some experiences: bring 2 great mana draughts and 1 great spirit, install HV STAT, and just try to kill RL, once you run out of mana or spirit, restore with the items, look to the RL's HP you just took down just, and then see what portion is, if it's 1/13 you can win, if it's 1/5, well piece of cake in than case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) QUOTE(yuripe @ May 1 2010, 17:19)  you already have a silence, so I think you can beat RL so easily like cmdct do.
Actually no, it's a bad idea to use silence against RL, until at least +150 levels, since you can't use weaken, and there's no good soul mitigation gear, so you're gonna take very high damage hits, weakened RL hit me usually for ~500-800 dmg out of ~2200 total HP I had at that time, now without weaken think double damage, and don't forget the crits, and double turns. QUOTE @ silly question : if you cast silence to monster, the monster won't attack or still can attack cuz that only special attack, and magic. What silence does is prevent the enemy to spend MP/SP points. Since the special and spirit attacks need them, they can't use, in other words they can only hit with normal attacks. This post has been edited by cmdct: May 1 2010, 19:11
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May 1 2010, 19:51
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yuripe
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 2 2010, 00:07)  Actually no, it's a bad idea to use silence against RL, until at least +150 levels, since you can't use weaken, and there's no good soul mitigation gear, so you're gonna take very high damage hits, weakened RL hit me usually for ~500-800 dmg out of ~2200 total HP I had at that time, now without weaken think double damage, and don't forget the crits, and double turns.
I see, so for RL just weaken. QUOTE(cmdct @ May 2 2010, 00:07)  What silence does is prevent the enemy to spend MP/SP points. Since the special and spirit attacks need them, they can't use, in other words they can only hit with normal attacks.
that's mean you still get a normal damage. really risk when use silence to gods if still get their normal attack.
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May 1 2010, 20:16
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(yuripe @ May 1 2010, 18:51)  that's mean you still get a normal damage. really risk when use silence to gods if still get their normal attack.
Meh, they have to hit, because if not any RoB enemy would turn into a pussy, and the same could be said in End of Days challenge. The problem is silence means you have to suffer with the full damage from hits/crits.
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May 2 2010, 05:28
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Jonavrek
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How to calculate the scaling down of duration of proc? Like this axe (lvl 150) has 3 turns after scaling down at my current lvl 110. Will it have 4 turns when I'm at lvl 130?
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May 2 2010, 05:47
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buktore
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No one knows, I think.
I believe that there's unseen numbers involve cause it seem that the amount of turns are rounded from something like ten-something decimal places.
This post has been edited by buktore: May 2 2010, 06:02
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May 2 2010, 06:11
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grumpymal
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mkonji estimated the scaling factor for proc durations, but since turns are whole numbers, there's no way to determine for sure without asking Tenboro.
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May 2 2010, 08:00
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Jonavrek @ May 2 2010, 06:19)  Maybe it is easier if I ask this way To all user lvl around 130, how does this axe scale down to you, 3 or 4 turns? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) 3 turns
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May 2 2010, 10:27
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Ichy
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I Found a Flower Vase.
What does this thing do? Use it or sell it?
This post has been edited by Ichy: May 2 2010, 10:27
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May 2 2010, 11:04
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Jonavrek
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 2 2010, 13:00)  3 turns
Too bad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(Ichy @ May 2 2010, 15:27)  I Found a Flower Vase.
What does this thing do? Use it or sell it?
Your attack/magic rating, attack/magic hit/crit chance, evade/resist chance and action speed increases significantly for a short time. Lasts 7 turns.
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May 2 2010, 11:32
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Ichy
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QUOTE(Jonavrek @ May 2 2010, 11:04)  Too bad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Your attack/magic rating, attack/magic hit/crit chance, evade/resist chance and action speed increases significantly for a short time. Lasts 7 turns. I see thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 2 2010, 12:09
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yuripe
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QUOTE(Ichy @ May 2 2010, 16:32)  see from http://ehwiki.org/, cuz some question can be answered in there.
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May 2 2010, 16:09
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MasakiLHW
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 1 2010, 14:07)  You don't need to worry so much, you have regen II, so with a good bleeding axe you can kill RL easily, I kill it with 8 elixirs, but you probably can do it with 5, so with 13 itmes slots you don't really need to use elixirs, maybe 1 for backup and the rest godlys, but save space for 1 spirit elixir if you have at least 17 SP tanks or 2 if you don't.
Regen II it's like Cure II, you only cast in special occasions (at least for me). Cost less if you use Regen multiple times, than Regen II one time (they recover the same amount, but Regen II last more), but when drop Mystic Gem, Regen II it's damn too good. I have crappy equip, and 29 SP thank... I can wait 20~30 days till I get Heartseeker and kill him with Greater Mana draught. I don't have a good credit incoming, so I look like McDuck Scrooge with my credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 2 2010, 16:46
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ May 2 2010, 15:09)  Regen II it's like Cure II, you only cast in special occasions (at least for me). Cost less if you use Regen multiple times, than Regen II one time (they recover the same amount, but Regen II last more), but when drop Mystic Gem, Regen II it's damn too good. I have crappy equip, and 29 SP thank... I can wait 20~30 days till I get Heartseeker and kill him with Greater Mana draught. I don't have a good credit incoming, so I look like McDuck Scrooge with my credits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Well is nothing wrong to wait until higher levels, what's important is to defeat them (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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May 3 2010, 03:02
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uvauva2
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Hey!
I have a grinding question.
What do people think is the best grinding option if your objective is to maximize DROPS? Currently I am doing IW's on a level 185 crude in hard difficulty (I can't quite get to the end at the moment, but I do get pretty close (170 or so)), and I don't know that I am too satisfied with the drop quality (I do see quite a fair bit of godlys in this way, for instance, but I don't notice any particular advantage with respect to the really good items (elixirs, specials, dare I say artifacts...). Should I change difficulty, quality of the item?
This post has been edited by uvauva2: May 3 2010, 03:04
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May 3 2010, 03:10
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(uvauva2 @ May 3 2010, 02:02)  Hey!
I have a grinding question.
What do people think is the best grinding option if your objective is to maximize DROPS? Currently I am doing IW's on a level 185 crude in hard difficulty (I can't quite get to the end at the moment, but I do get pretty close (170 or so)), and I don't know that I am too satisfied with the drop quality (I do see quite a fair bit of godlys in this way, for instance, but I don't notice any particular advantage with respect to the really good items (elixirs, specials, dare I say artifacts...). Should I change difficulty, quality of the item?
I can only say this: LoDraw 8 magnificient/normal -> after 80's rounds the worse item was average but what I got more was superiors/godlys, got some infusions of gaia, but specials and elixirs not much more than normal
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