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post Mar 8 2012, 08:51
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I've been getting some good demon-fiend pieces too, so should I save up and switch to holy/dark + soul?

Already have a good dest katalox.

Still need a dark spell, though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:03
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 7 2012, 23:51) *

I've been getting some good demon-fiend pieces too, so should I save up and switch to holy/dark + soul?

Already have a good dest katalox.

Still need a dark spell, though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


I never really liked going soul. Mechs rape you too hard and there's nothing you can do about them other than use unbuffed Elec magic. I do use soul burst occasionally though... just because its damage is so ridiculous.

Hard to say. I never really used my Holy/Dark until I reached level 200. (except for the instances where I killed the RoB's for quick cash). If you plan on swapping make sure your holy/dark suit is *at least* as good as your elemental one
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:07
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Cause now Soul dps is based on divine and forbidden profs, so might as well use soul if you're a holy/dark mage, no?
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:37
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 8 2012, 00:07) *

Cause now Soul dps is based on divine and forbidden profs, so might as well use soul if you're a holy/dark mage, no?


This isn't really a change from the patches previous. A holy/dark mage most likely has their forbidden + divine proficiency maxed anyway so in prior patch the soul damage was optimal (just forbidden prof) and now it is *still* optimal (average of forbidden+divine prof)

With my current holy set I think there's only been 2 types of monsters I use soul on. MBP/friends (although not needed) and Goddesses. Suffice to say, it has its niche but again, I wouldn't rank it highly in versatility. Not to mention its missing the important damage factor known as EDB

Edit: the only group that is hurt by the proficiency change are the pure dark mages that had garbage divine prof

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post Mar 8 2012, 09:40
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Mar 8 2012, 14:33) *

Wind 1 would probably trump Fire/Ice 3 vs a high PL giant. I usually went Wind -> Elec -> Fire. Wind was main damage. Elec was there to trigger the explosion (extra wind damage that benefits from EDB bonuses). Fire mopped up anything that would survive that since the only monsters that shoulda survived = undead/(maybe beasts?)


That's quite true, though I never tried wind spells seriously because I'm a fire/holy/dark/whatever mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Mar 8 2012, 14:51) *

I've been getting some good demon-fiend pieces too, so should I save up and switch to holy/dark + soul?

Already have a good dest katalox.

Still need a dark spell, though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Wait till you get your dark spell then. You really need good gossamers with high proc or EDB phases in order to play holy/dark, since it will consume more mana than elemental spells (lack of tier 1 spells surely hurts).

Soul spells...
Soul harvest are for SP regen without much offensive capability, and you need at least 2-3 turns for soul burst to reach its max damage output. (Soul fire -> soul burst). You may as well be dead against 10 monsters.
Soul burst is quite efficient against bosses/legends/trio though.
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:04
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 8 2012, 03:55) *

You'll need DW/1H later (lv.220 and above) if you want to try EOD arenas, which is basically 50 rounds of legends. So don't ignore that after you've defeated ROBs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


For most melee, the girls marathon arena aren't really that much attractive anymore since now the random encounter could actually give a good amount of high tier gear and use much less time to clear. On the other hand, trading trophy still give you shit most of the time as always. If not worse than before...

I still doing it since I have a proper tool for the job. I don't give it as much priority as before though. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Mar 8 2012, 10:14
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Well that's the same for mages, though 50k clear bonus and the ability to say 'I finished that!' surely helps.

DW/2H for FSM then?
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:36
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 8 2012, 15:14) *

DW/2H for FSM then?


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Anything should work nowadays... I haven't tested 1H that much yet. Wonder how much dmg the skill could do for non instant-kill hit.
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:43
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No typo, since some guys have said they can't complete EOD with a mace.
It's difficult to separate the weapon factor from the armor factor.
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post Mar 8 2012, 11:01
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Oh, you mean arenas like EOD? ... I thought you're talking about RoB.

I've read about people die in EOD, too. The don't know much about the detail, but I guess the problem probably were from the slow killing speed (using 2H, lack of proper tool) AND using mana too excessively.

It's not about the armor, that I can say for certain. Most of my armor are rather mediocre and upgrading it have very little effects in such arenas. It the weapon and planing that count.
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post Mar 8 2012, 11:04
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Think i'm in need of some help o.o just got git for 1.7k in arena in hell mode so i wen fudge that and put it down to heroic then got hit for 1.5k.... starting to think my avoidance isnt up to scratch O.o

(IMG:[i43.tinypic.com] http://i43.tinypic.com/prj4j.png) (IMG:[i43.tinypic.com] http://i43.tinypic.com/5pr6fq.png) (IMG:[i41.tinypic.com] http://i41.tinypic.com/1g1ykk.png) (IMG:[i42.tinypic.com] http://i42.tinypic.com/900cqw.png) (IMG:[i44.tinypic.com] http://i44.tinypic.com/m7g9kp.png)

Only thing i can think of is i havent pu enuff into str/dex... o.o
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post Mar 8 2012, 11:14
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Mind Raper have been 1-shot lowbie people since forever. It's normal.

You could either

1) Cast Bewilder. (I actually did this ages ago before I get X-Attack! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )

2) Close your eyes, then throw everything you got at Mind Raper and hope it will go away once you open your eyes.

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post Mar 8 2012, 11:23
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Haha can't remember name of the other npc that hit me for 1.7k crushing but think it was same one... hes resistant to elkemental damage only reason i remember the little fucker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) stats are alright tho or have i left str/dex in the dust? (as u cna probably guess my damage is abit crazy for my level specially with infusions)

Just managed to get 55k exp in a grind fest... must be the npc since i got pritty far in hell mode =z

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post Mar 8 2012, 11:46
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Your stats seem fine to me. You might be able to get away with leaving Strength and Dexterity even further behind, though it might be a bit too early for that.

You should try a Destruction staff if you haven't already. Even with a Surtr staff, your fire EDB is pretty low so I get the feeling that more MDM will help more overall.

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post Mar 8 2012, 11:55
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I think i'l get on it as soon as i get some credits... wish donation was still up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

if it gives me more dmg i'm in... dmg is pritty sexy as it is tho (IMG:[i39.tinypic.com] http://i39.tinypic.com/21defxy.png)
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post Mar 8 2012, 11:57
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...if you use your spell instead of magic missile, you may have defeated mind raper before it use its skill.
There are times when you use MM to save some mana and times you don't. This is definitely not the time to save mana, since you're still at the stage that one skill attack from mini-bosses may easily kill you.
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post Mar 8 2012, 12:32
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Wait... its a mini-boss? wutdafauk im off to wiki now ¬_¬ never knew all i knew was it was harder than most O.O

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post Mar 8 2012, 15:09
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QUOTE(Sillybeanz @ Mar 8 2012, 11:32) *

Wait... its a mini-boss? wutdafauk im off to wiki now ¬_¬ never knew all i knew was it was harder than most O.O


Monster category aside, once you see that a monster can one-shot kill you the natural course of action is slaying it ASAP with your best attacks.
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post Mar 8 2012, 18:15
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Is Overcharge Boost useful at all for a mage?
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post Mar 8 2012, 18:16
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Mar 8 2012, 19:15) *

Is Overcharge Boost useful at all for a mage?


Yes.
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