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post Feb 26 2012, 09:01
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To quote bash, the general rule with Rapiers seems to be: "Ethereal, good ADB, good proc: pick two".
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post Feb 26 2012, 09:12
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Somehow I think the rule should be

Proc >>>>>>>>> parry >>>>>>>> any other things

Basically you're using rapier for PA and parry in OH, so who cares how much damage it can deal.
Even if it has high WD, offhand strike will only proc 50% of the time, which means you're going to utilize that WD at its full potential.
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post Feb 26 2012, 09:13
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trio and tree Battletoad


0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=13685 (Aeris Gainsborough) LV=253 HP=39241.125
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=1241 (Smaug) LV=250 HP=47250
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=10466 (Noihara Himari) LV=250 HP=47250
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=20554 (Hitokiri84) LV=253 HP=48131.25
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=12750 (Sakurai Hotaru) LV=251 HP=55743.6
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=25975 (Monshiro Kuki) LV=250 HP=38531.25
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=8530 (Useless) LV=250 HP=54281.25
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #28 (Round 82 / 100) ...
0 0 Battle Start!



Running out of mana .

Please give some strategy . I am using Heimdall set with Katalox Destruction Staff and items 12 Godly mana + 1 Spirit Elixir
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post Feb 26 2012, 09:27
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QUOTE(Annoyed @ Feb 26 2012, 01:13) *
Please give some strategy


QUOTE(Annoyed @ Feb 26 2012, 01:13) *
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=20554 (Hitokiri84) LV=253 HP=48131.25


Let yourself be killed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:01
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QUOTE(Annoyed @ Feb 26 2012, 07:13) *

trio and tree Battletoad
0 8 Spawned Monster G: MID=13685 (Aeris Gainsborough) LV=253 HP=39241.125
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=1241 (Smaug) LV=250 HP=47250
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=10466 (Noihara Himari) LV=250 HP=47250
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=20554 (Hitokiri84) LV=253 HP=48131.25
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=12750 (Sakurai Hotaru) LV=251 HP=55743.6
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=25975 (Monshiro Kuki) LV=250 HP=38531.25
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=8530 (Useless) LV=250 HP=54281.25
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #28 (Round 82 / 100) ...
0 0 Battle Start!
Running out of mana .

Please give some strategy . I am using Heimdall set with Katalox Destruction Staff and items 12 Godly mana + 1 Spirit Elixir


If you are running out of mana on a difficulty like BT, where you should have lots of monsters with HP to survive a few hits, you need to spend more time ETing
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:28
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Is it too late for me to switch to a mage? Taking forever to kill multiple things on higher difficulty is suffering
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:44
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It's never too late to respec, though you'll have to find the right equipment.
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:48
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Feb 26 2012, 03:44) *

It's never too late to respec, though you'll have to find the right equipment.


What do mages even look for in equipments? Besides full phase I'd imagine
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post Feb 26 2012, 10:53
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Phase: EDB > Evade > INT
Gossamer: Prof >> Evade ≥ Int
Cotton: crap

Phase > Gossamer >>>> Cotton

Destruction staff: MDB > Prof ≥ EDB ≥ INT
EDB staff: EDB ≥ MDB ≥ Prof ≥ INT
Focus staff: only useful before you get Arcane Focus

Destruction >> EDB
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:04
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I have a question about monster levels. Now I know that when your 100-199 you fight monsters with a higher power level but I was wondering what it has to do with the level it says on screen.

Like I'm currently 126 so I'm fighting monsters with a power level around 180. I'm cool with that but on the screen it shows levels 122-126. So if the same monster pops up for one round as 126 and the next as 122, is there a difference in hp or something?
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:19
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PL =/= Level

I would assume that the Endurance a monster has and it's Level in battle (so not PL) would have an effect on it's HP. The factor from END would remain constant while the Level factor would fluctuate between a range.
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:24
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Power Level indicates how much a monster has been strengthened using crystals.
What you are upgrading (primary stats and elemental resistances) are actually base stats that are then scaled to the level the monster spawns on.
There should be something on the Wiki or the Missing Wiki Data thread.
Health Points are affected by Strength and Endurance.
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:38
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Thanks. I got that str and end are the contributing factors to monster hp but was just wondering if all the stats were scaled down.

I did try to look it up in the wiki but typing monster level in the search didn't really help. Tried some pages on monsters in general and even a couple of other random pages that might have something.

And yea the wiki does say its level not power level for determining hp. But its nice to know that base stats are scaled down too. (also just wanted to make sure that I was mostly correct in targeting highest level monsters first).
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:52
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 26 2012, 07:48) *

Well, if you feel like mages are more powerful than melees, consider the following:
1. Mages use way more mana potions than melees, and those are expansive
2. Mages have worse defense than melees, a hit can take half of your max hp
3. Mages' equipments can be quite expansive (considering the middle-tier EDB phases)


when i run i use no potions, i sue them only in arenas.
my life is mostly halved when 8 mobs attacks me.
i have no money lol.



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post Feb 26 2012, 13:38
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Tenboro just updated the HV. I think it's easier now and the experience in Dawn of a new day is pretty equivalent to your level.
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post Feb 26 2012, 13:41
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QUOTE(determinazione @ Feb 26 2012, 12:52) *

when i run i use no potions, i sue them only in arenas.
my life is mostly halved when 8 mobs attacks me.
i have no money lol.


Then come here, bro! This guy is giving free equipments to newcomers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=59425

And I'll give you something if you don't have the equipments yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Feb 26 2012, 16:05
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QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Feb 26 2012, 11:13) *

Is unicorn significantly harder than RL? Have 3 tokens now and of course I want to get the better money. FSM seems not to be an option now since I've had sad experience with it. And is unicorn's trophy better to shrine than RL's?


Unicorn and FSM are both quite okay. I did them as a DW shade, even though I mage mainly. With silence, it's quite easy to kill both of them, as their melee dmg can be offset quite easily + high evasion + stun from mace. However, I'd advise you to go with at least 6 godlies + a lot of scrolls. Spark may or may not be necessary, up to you. Unicorn is better, but FSM is the best, so you should farm him all the time.

All the best to you. I killed FSM with 0 pots left, 10 mana points and 6 HP lmao. That was quite an experience.
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post Feb 26 2012, 17:19
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Now that Gossamer no longer has burden, is EBD phase still much better?
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post Feb 26 2012, 17:28
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 26 2012, 23:19) *

Now that Gossamer no longer has burden, is EBD phase still much better?


The answer is still yes.
EDB phase is better because they can generate better damage output.
Having no burden and high evade is just some good side-effects.

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post Feb 26 2012, 18:32
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How does the dawn event work? Do you have to log on at 12am? I haven't noticed any events in a long time, since I'm never up that late anymore.
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