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post Feb 4 2012, 22:51
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 4 2012, 21:45) *

Er...well, I noted that typo.
Not going to correct that immediately, since there may be hundreds of misused words in my writings.
I'd correct that when I add/sort through the information.


No, it's not about that at all... I was talking about the damage bonus not scaling up with the proficiency since the values seem to increase just because of the gear leveling up.

I'll make a few tests about it and be back with more concrete numbers, either in favor or against my statement.
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post Feb 4 2012, 22:51
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Feb 4 2012, 13:35) *

That works fine and dandy until you hit level 200 and start meeting the high level monsters.
Liselotte and Eila can easily crit me for up to 5k-6k HP with their special attack and I have 43% mitigation on my main suit.

And on that note, you're already over level 100 which means you've switched over to the exponential PL cap; monsters are going to get a lot stronger a lot faster from now on.



Kind of hoping for that actually. Higher power levels mean more exp. More exp means more level ups. The faster I kill mobs the faster I can level up.

But if there is a monster around my level that keeps kicking my butt, I'll just take note of that monsters name so I can just weaken/silence/nerf/f*uck it up :-P.

Oh and just reread that, crits are always something I do have to worry about. Its why I like weaken. I haven't really put a value between weaken and silence though. I know they can't stack but I just got silence and wondering if I should just replace weaken with it.
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post Feb 4 2012, 22:59
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QUOTE(Jeric @ Feb 4 2012, 13:49) *

Okay. Ill have to work on having more than one set of equipment. Thank you. also with the offer of the mace, that raises another question: if i'm only level 35 can i use a weapon that states level 76 at the bottom. Is that level a min level or suggested level?

other thought just realized IMO ment in my opinion. i have a friend who says IMO, meaning International Mathematical Olympiad
okay. thank you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
and on a small side note
is it bad to change avatars regularly? i have a folder of all my favorite avatars. ^.^'

You can use that item. All of its stats scale down to your level but interference and burden. This way as you level up, it feels like the weapon levels up with you.

And no its not bad to change avatars. Can't imagine why it would. The way I recognize things is with images rather than words sometimes. Also works with problem solving. If I can see it or imagine a diagram of a problem, I can find the solution.

Examples of words I can never remember, megalomaniac >_>. I've looked that word up like 50 times and I keep forgetting it. But paradigm, I looked that up the same number of times. Then I saw an anime that called their city paradigm city. Some how the definition always stuck because I can still see that ideal example...
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post Feb 4 2012, 23:08
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Feb 4 2012, 14:59) *

You can use that item. All of its stats scale down to your level but interference and burden. This way as you level up, it feels like the weapon levels up with you.

And no its not bad to change avatars. Can't imagine why it would. The way I recognize things is with images rather than words sometimes. Also works with problem solving. If I can see it or imagine a diagram of a problem, I can find the solution.

Examples of words I can never remember, megalomaniac >_>. I've looked that word up like 50 times and I keep forgetting it. But paradigm, I looked that up the same number of times. Then I saw an anime that called their city paradigm city. Some how the definition always stuck because I can still see that ideal example...


YAY. i love all my avatars. i got the thought from your comment to Hoheneim earlier.

Very cool thank you for the info on weapons.

I have the same issue with names. there was a girl i met before my freshman year, I hung out with with this girl like three to four times a week. but it still took the whole summer plus the first semester and a half for me to learn and remember her name.....it was not good.
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post Feb 4 2012, 23:26
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QUOTE(Jeric @ Feb 4 2012, 14:08) *

YAY. i love all my avatars. i got the thought from your comment to Hoheneim earlier.

Very cool thank you for the info on weapons.

I have the same issue with names. there was a girl i met before my freshman year, I hung out with with this girl like three to four times a week. but it still took the whole summer plus the first semester and a half for me to learn and remember her name.....it was not good.

Well looks like I'll have to know you by jeric now then :-D. I know this one time I couldn't remember this girls name. Spent the whole night and day after with her. Seen her name written down so many times but I couldn't put it to memory. Then again, I was high and drunk when i met her... Still to this day I can't remember her name but I remember every one else that was there.
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post Feb 4 2012, 23:58
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Most ESL have better grammar than the native speakers but they don't catch the satire/underlying meanings as often as the native ones. Hence lots of misunderstandings/miscommunications. Lots of literal comprehension going on/assumptions.

I've dealt with a lot of people via internet forum that had nice grammar/good sentence structure but totally misread things/misunderstand what's being said when it counts.

I'd suggest you guys don't jump to conclusions unless you're absolutely sure.

Edit: "you guys" should be "the ESL posters", although I'm sure some native speakers would do well with that advice as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Feb 5 2012, 02:36
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So... Old Non-SD Shade armor... worth selling, or should I dump em?
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post Feb 5 2012, 02:37
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Feb 4 2012, 14:51) *

Kind of hoping for that actually. Higher power levels mean more exp. More exp means more level ups. The faster I kill mobs the faster I can level up.




That... certainly isn't happening, the monsters' HP increase from the latest patch makes leveling slower the higher your level is, and the damage certainly doesn't outweight the HP increase. If you want to powerlevel; the sooner the better.

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post Feb 5 2012, 02:42
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I dumped all my Negation Shade.
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post Feb 5 2012, 02:50
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Feb 5 2012, 01:36) *

So... Old Non-SD Shade armor... worth selling, or should I dump em?


Unless it's really low-level or low-quality I'd avoid dumping it.

I mean, if it's even slightly better than mine I'd buy it myself, since I don't have enough funds to buy the "new shade"... So if you want to sell, let me know.
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post Feb 5 2012, 03:19
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 5 2012, 02:57) *

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As for spells to use, I would suggest keeping the highest tier only for each type of spells.
That can spare you tons of APs.
Just leave 1-2 tier 1 AOE spells to clear the round.
Or you can use smilejb's idea and pick 2 spells, but that would be dangerous against bosses.

2. Equipments
Most of the armors are useless. You need to find armor with elementalist suffix, to increase your damage output.
Of course, you can go straightly to phases, though I think elementalist are cheaper and phases are not that useful if you don't have lv.130's arcane focus to increase your spell damage.

As for staff, try to find a ebony staff of focus with high base MDB (20+) and high accuracy (45+).
Or you can jump to get a ebony staff of destruction with base MDB > 32.

3. ET
Isn't that good unless you're facing bosses. For the time you spend on ETing, you can earn more credits to buy mana potions, or get more potion drops.


I thought that the higher tier spells also lower the mana cost for the lower tier spells? I'm quite confused with your comment about APs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for equipments, well I'm not picky. I'm currently saving credits for training, so... I'll try to look around, but things are expensive these days >"<. So as a mage, you only focus on damage?
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post Feb 5 2012, 04:40
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How hard is the Flying spaghetti monster in ROB? I'm having 3 tokens now and kinda short on credits, so I guess I want to take the risk. Will smite(holy) be enough to defeat it, or what else should I know/bring to the battle? Or should I just save it and go for a lower ROB challenge?
Edit: I'm being a mage as of now

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post Feb 5 2012, 05:09
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 4 2012, 18:19) *

I thought that the higher tier spells also lower the mana cost for the lower tier spells? I'm quite confused with your comment about APs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for equipments, well I'm not picky. I'm currently saving credits for training, so... I'll try to look around, but things are expensive these days >"<. So as a mage, you only focus on damage?

Never heard about higher tiers lowering mana cost. Might investigate it later.

And for me atleast, I'm focusing much more on damage.

Edit: I haven't done fsm as a mage so I wouldnt know >_>.

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post Feb 5 2012, 05:14
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 4 2012, 17:19) *

I thought that the higher tier spells also lower the mana cost for the lower tier spells?

No.
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:20
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QUOTE(LangTuTaiHoa @ Feb 4 2012, 20:40) *

How hard is the Flying spaghetti monster in ROB? I'm having 3 tokens now and kinda short on credits, so I guess I want to take the risk. Will smite(holy) be enough to defeat it, or what else should I know/bring to the battle? Or should I just save it and go for a lower ROB challenge?



Not that hard if you keep spark of life up, you can use Magic Missile + Poison + Weaken + Bewilder as a cheap alternative, it might take a ton of turns though, but you can keep your MP maxed by ETing from time to time and just use holy spells when it's HP is low.

I guess bringing a few mana/spirit pots and a Katalox staff if your divine prof is lacking would be enough .
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:29
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QUOTE(JamesCID @ Feb 5 2012, 10:20) *

Not that hard if you keep spark of life up, you can use Magic Missile + Poison + Weaken + Bewilder as a cheap alternative, it might take a ton of turns though, but you can keep your MP maxed by ETing from time to time and just use holy spells when it's HP is low.

I guess bringing a few mana/spirit pots and a Katalox staff if your divine prof is lacking would be enough .


Just realized I don't have either weaken or bewilder at the moment. Got to wait a while to get them first then.
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:49
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Weaken and bewilder are not really must for that fight, but they certainly help, I guess you could try blasting him with full divine prof/EDB gear but you'll have to be healing often (Specially if you opt for Heaven-sent Gossamer and not Heimdall Phase) and your spirit might get drained a few times due to spark of life triggering.

There's a thread around specially for tips about fighting legendaries/gods and even though it might not be up to date with the current patch you can get some nice tips.

I'd personally wait for Arcane Focus and Regen II.
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:53
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I've read that before. Must be me remembering wrong. Anyway, is there then any point of keeping lower tier spells? Just for the mana cost?
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 4 2012, 19:53) *

I've read that before. Must be me remembering wrong. Anyway, is there then any point of keeping lower tier spells? Just for the mana cost?

They're faster too. Most high level mages use them as an opener to get CM procs.
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post Feb 5 2012, 06:39
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Feb 5 2012, 05:53) *

is there then any point of keeping lower tier spells?


Just for playing long run IW (200 rounds+). That's why I keeping them in

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