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I only use hotkeys. I have every proficiency maxed. So, no.

I will show that it doesn't do that under current patch once I finish arena.

I will show that it doesn't do that under current patch once I finish arena.

That's superstition. I wouldn't worry about it =)

There is no difference from using hotkeys or your mouse, in both cases you're submitting the same form.
Hotkeys simply do the clicking part for you.

I will show that it doesn't do that under current patch once I finish arena.

hes not being serious is he (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

it just me or you cannot stack silence and weaken on fsm?
spamming holy on FSM is ten times easier than MM-ing RL LoL

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/spells#Stacking

Want to swtich to mage now

it currently take me 15 rounds(40turns/round) to get one level up, will mage leveling up faster?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/spells#Stacking

doh, I read the diagram wrong. I though it was bewilder-silence and weaken-blind that does not stack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Want to swtich to mage now

it currently take me 15 rounds(40turns/round) to get one level up, will mage leveling up faster?

uh, leveling is about efficiency. just switching job won't do much.
I can get about 8lv daily until lv 80 with melee (2H) by only doing hard CF (lowest stamina consume) on great stamina back then.

i heard that mage can clear a whole round with only single hit, that sounds fatasy to me

uh, leveling is about efficiency. just switching job won't do much.
I can get about 8lv daily until lv 80 with melee (2H) by only doing hard CF (lowest stamina consume) on great stamina back then.

then try to level up a lv3 crude in item world at x25, it should get you faster

i heard that mage can clear a whole round with only single hit, that sounds fatasy to me
then try to level up a lv3 crude in item world at x25, it should get you faster

High level mages with good equipment. At your level melee is better.

This post has been edited by sigo8: Feb 4 2012, 06:22

i heard that mage can clear a whole round with only single hit, that sounds fatasy to me
then try to level up a lv3 crude in item world at x25, it should get you faster

only high level with good equips can do that continuously.
nah, I'd rather grind for cr right now, need to train a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Let me tell you my experience post patch 0.6.4. as a sub-100 mage.

Hard to manage mana w/ our little pool.

First off, accuracy versus damage is a HUGE problem; much worse for lowbie mages than lowbie melees. For meleers, who are wearing better absorb/mitigation gear, a miss doesn't instantly endanger your life. If i whiff 3 times in a row as a 2hander, I shrug. If i miss 3 times as a mage, i scream in fear. If you are more accurate, but do less damage, unfortunately, the stuff that didn't die in the first aoe, will most likely be agitated. If it's a later round and you clear only 3/9 mobs and have 6 agitated left, you are dead.

Stuff does die fast. Rounds don't last long, it's true. There is no chipping away at individual mobs for 20 turns like w/ 1h and DW. It's actually quite rewarding to blast mobs and see even the ones resistant to your element die in one-shot anyway.

1 turn, consistently, no, but then I don't have a full set of phase +elem or EDB gear. Usually 2-3 turns is enough. Going with a high damage/elemental staff means you will take out more, but miss a lot more than going w/ a +50% focus staff (which will have worse damage).

Hadn't played awhile, but came back a bit before the patch. Wore all cloth, but seemed to be taking too much damage; so I added some light armor for the absorb/mitigation yet still stayed under 20 burden/25 interference.

New interference/burden rules completely destroyed that build. At our levels, you do not have enough HP to rely on evade. Even w/ good evade you will die in a couple hits. You MUST have some good absorb/mitigation pieces. The reason I'm doing melee now is I played the 1st round of an arena --not even the highest level one-- on normal and after casting protect and veil, promptly took 260 damage from 3 mobs. 1st round and I lost 260 of my (then) 800 hp in a turn. ON NORMAL.

Spirit stance sucks for lowbie mages too now, since no bonus spell damage. Not worth bashing the leftovers, when you'll miss a lot.

I still want to play my mage as a mage though; will try again in the 70s-100s to see if regen/spark and more tier2 aoes makes it more viable, but for now gonna get my wpn prof up to 50 for skills.

This post has been edited by etothex: Feb 4 2012, 06:51

Using keyboard hotkeys to attack monsters with staff

15 rounds comparison @ [youtu.be] http://youtu.be/G7OdQO2vTzA

start staff prof @ 21.48
end staff prof @ 23.22
gained prof @ 1.74


Using mouse click to attack monsters with staff

15 rounds comparison @ [youtu.be] http://youtu.be/IICmHgkm1y0

start staff prof @ 19.37
end staff prof @ 21.43
gained prof @ 2.06





2.06 - 1.74 = 0.32 difference towards mouse clicking.

That is roughly 11+ more times I get prof, if you want to assume that I would get the ideal prof of 0.03 ten times.

Hotkeys may be faster but I still don't get prof faster than mouse clicking. In long runs it might be more even with a slight deviation of a few prof, it is not the case in short runs.



As to why it is like that, likely to slow down AutoItScript bot users from leveling too fast.
Don't really care for a fix to it, it is probably fine the way it is.

Those of us that can't do 100+ round runs, not having those metalic auras and all those other hath perks; every bit that gets us to where you guys are maters, even short runs like this. Even if my hand is crampped from mouse clicking all day.



As to being serious about it, no.

You've gained more prof with the mouse because the starting prof was lower (19.37 vs 21.48).
The lower the prof, the faster it goes up.

And again, hotkeys only simulate clicks (I can paste the relevant portion of the code if you don't believe it).
The server has no way of knowing if you're using your mouse or your keyboard.

You are not taking into account the lower the prof you have, the easier to gain it. And scripting a mouse click is as easy as a combination of keys.


Edit: Ninja'd

This post has been edited by JamesCID: Feb 4 2012, 07:29

Wow ... a youtube vid, about HV!? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

and you can't actually compare by rounds as each round can has variable monster count and HP.
you should count by number of attack instead.

I've done enough SEO to know that you can track the mouse and clicks if any without any additional code on a page.

The difference is minimal @ 19.37 and 21.48 when I am lvl 162.

Now your just talking semantics, don't care for it.



If you want to wrap your brain about it not being a fair comparison, the hotkeys record was done after the mouse clicking. The monsters had more health in the hotkey run so I had more whacks of the staff and got less prof. By your understanding, aiwotorimodose, I should have more prof than the mouse run. which I don't.


Be aware that this is what someone low level is going to experience, not someone 100+.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Feb 4 2012, 08:02