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post Feb 2 2012, 15:14
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reached lv50, now i can challenge the ring of blood, but my Dual wielding proficiency only have 6.54, far from unlock Backstab, and only have 5 tokens of blood.

for SH weapon i have Superior Rapier of Slaughter, ,Fine Club of the Nimble

since varst' advice at #11399

i changed back some old heavy armors

Average Plate Cuirass of Protection, Fine Plate Gauntlets of Protection, Average Plate Greaves of the Frost-born

are these equipments good enough?

is ring of blood very dangerous? 

should i challenge it now?






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i was thinking to use penetrator + stunner combo to battle, but ehwiki Equipment_Advice entry suggest battlecaster is good for ring of blood, should i buy a good "of battlecaster " weapon?

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post Feb 2 2012, 15:42
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AFAIK Bosses should be quite easy with stun and PA.
Remember to use the respective infusion (against bosses' weakness), and put poison/weaken on.
Against Manbearpig, you may also want to bring a scroll of life/god against its magical SP attack.

For weapon, use a high-damage club in mainhand and rapier with long-duration high-chance PA in offhand.
That should be useful later against gods/legends, so choose a better one.

P.S. Equipment_advice is largely outdated now.
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post Feb 2 2012, 16:08
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damn

18 6 You have been defeated.
18 5 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
18 4 Death Ray crits you for 1543 soul damage.
18 3 Dalek casts Death Ray


did not bring a scroll, wasted a token
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post Feb 2 2012, 16:24
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QUOTE(eqwer @ Feb 2 2012, 22:08) *

damn

18 6 You have been defeated.
18 5 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
18 4 Death Ray crits you for 1543 soul damage.
18 3 Dalek casts Death Ray
did not bring a scroll, wasted a token


Sounds bad. How much hp left for the boss?
You may need to bring a scroll of god for every boss fight then.
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post Feb 2 2012, 16:33
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18 6 You have been defeated.
18 5 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
18 4 Death Ray crits you for 1543 soul damage.
18 3 Dalek casts Death Ray
18 2 Your offhand hits Dalek for 160 piercing damage.
18 1 You hit Dalek for 212 crushing damage.
17 8 Dalek is agitated!
17 7 The effect Protection has expired.
17 6 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
17 5 Dalek misses the attack against you.
17 4 Iris Strike hits Dalek for 527 crushing damage.
17 3 Dalek gains the effect Blinded.
17 2 You gain the effect Chain 1.
17 1 You use Iris Strike.
16 3 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
16 2 Dalek hits you for 42 piercing damage.
16 1 You hit Dalek for 303 crushing damage.
15 3 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
15 2 Dalek misses the attack against you.
15 1 You hit Dalek for 237 crushing damage.
14 3 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
14 2 Dalek misses the attack against you.
14 1 You hit Dalek for 330 crushing damage.
13 5 Dalek misses the attack against you.
13 4 The effect Stunned on Dalek has expired.
13 3 The effect Weakened on Dalek has expired.
13 2 Spreading Poison hits Dalek for 36 damage.
13 1 You hit Dalek for 328 crushing damage.
12 3 Dalek gains the effect Spreading Poison.
12 2 You cast Poison.
12 1 You gain 0.02 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
11 1 You hit Dalek for 288 crushing damage.
10 1 You hit Dalek for 375 crushing damage.
9 3 Dalek gains the effect Stunned.
9 2 Your offhand hits Dalek for 161 piercing damage.
9 1 You hit Dalek for 280 crushing damage.
8 2 Dalek hits you for 10 piercing damage.
8 1 You hit Dalek for 333 crushing damage.
7 4 Dalek hits you for 12 piercing damage.
7 3 Dalek gains the effect Weakened.
7 2 You cast Weaken.
7 1 You gain 0.03 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
6 2 Dalek crits you for 28 piercing damage.
6 1 You hit Dalek for 325 crushing damage.
5 2 You parry the attack from Dalek.
5 1 Your attack misses its mark.
4 2 Dalek hits you for 19 piercing damage.
4 1 You hit Dalek for 207 crushing damage.
3 3 Dalek misses the attack.
3 2 Dalek casts Death Ray
3 1 You hit Dalek for 212 crushing damage.
2 1 You hit Dalek for 272 crushing damage.
1 4 You parry the attack from Dalek.
1 3 You gain the effect Protection.
1 2 You cast Protection.
1 1 You gain 0.03 points of supportive magic proficiency.
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=19 (Dalek) LV=47 HP=5187
0 1 Initializing arena challenge #104 (Round 1 / 1) ...
0 0 Battle Start!


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just a little, boss turned red, i am too weak

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post Feb 2 2012, 16:57
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You should cast weaken and poison as soon as you start the battle.

Weaken decrease monster's damage by 50% and prevents crit, while poison halves the monster's SP and MP regen rate by 50%.

If you cast them ASAP, those bosses may not have the chance to use their second skill/SP attack in the battle.
Together with one infusion, there's a fair chance the boss dies before having a chance to use its attack.

There's a slim chance you'll still lose against bosses: a crit with magical attack, but the chance can be reduced by the above methods.
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post Feb 2 2012, 17:16
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i should buy several scrolls of Life, since the scroll slot can be restock in battle, i shoud release the Spark of Life effect in the begining


your deprecating magic advice is ture, my playing style is too no-brainer, i play with mobs like a pure brute
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post Feb 2 2012, 17:32
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I did all 4 of the available RoB's when I was 52, with the right setup they were pretty easy. I didn't use any scrolls or infusions because I haven't unlocked the abilities for them yet.

I did the recommended strat of Poison and Weaken. I stayed 2h because my mace has a 29% chance to stun for 3 turns, which is absolutely vital. At our levels we cannot survive a spirit attack, as they generally hit for around 500+ more HP than we have, so you have to kill the mob before it uses it. Shatter Strike also helps immensely with this, 5 rounds of Stun is huge (not sure if Penetrated Armor and the Stun damage bonus stack, but from what I've seen i don't think it does.) With Weaken up the mob's damage is quite low, and with stuns you shouldn't really be in trouble outside of special attacks, so whenever the mobs are above 50% mana stay very close to maximum health (they can't crit with Weaken up but they still do a large amount of damage.) If you've been playing 2h I would recommend staying it, as the higher Stun chance and Shatter Strike may be far more helpful than the increased damage of DW. If you do stay DW make sure you're using Iris Strike while the mob is either stunned or PA'd.
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post Feb 2 2012, 17:49
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thanks,

so if i do Th, i need a better mace of balance, may be Attack Accuracy Bonus need close to 20% while Stun chance not far from 30%, and stun turns need to be >= 3

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post Feb 2 2012, 18:02
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f26d2fc69d

Is what I've been using for a while, balance could be fine though, the stun chance is by far the most important.
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post Feb 2 2012, 18:25
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hmm, should I spent my cr on a better cloth set which will raise my evade about 4.5% (after changing all) and deals more damage, or max aura slot & pack rat first?

how good is sv on IA? should I spent hath on IA2, or go with metallic aura first?
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post Feb 2 2012, 18:34
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Are there any real numbers around for the differences on Item Worlds in relation to the Item grade that you go into? The Wiki just says you'll face more powerful monsters in higher grade items, does this mean more Uncommon+ monsters or that they'll give more Exp? I'm trying to find the most efficient Exp/Time setup.
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post Feb 2 2012, 18:52
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QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Feb 3 2012, 00:25) *

hmm, should I spent my cr on a better cloth set which will raise my evade about 4.5% (after changing all) and deals more damage, or max aura slot & pack rat first?

how good is sv on IA? should I spent hath on IA2, or go with metallic aura first?


I would say metallic aura > IA2. The main use of IA for mages is to save mana in long areans.
But that's not something necessary.

And max those aura slot and pack rat first. In the mean time you can decide if elemental or holy/dark suits your playstyle.
EDB plases can be obtained at a fair price if you pick those with lower EDB.

But then it's always a difficult decision. I don't see any real downsides if you choose to obtain EDB phases first.

QUOTE(Genoside @ Feb 3 2012, 00:34) *

Are there any real numbers around for the differences on Item Worlds in relation to the Item grade that you go into? The Wiki just says you'll face more powerful monsters in higher grade items, does this mean more Uncommon+ monsters or that they'll give more Exp? I'm trying to find the most efficient Exp/Time setup.


They should have the same hp, but their hits deals less damage, and they should give less exp.
Current assumption is that there's a 'quality' in every equipments, and IW scales according to this 'quality', assuming damage at arena = 1.
And no, you'll have the same chance to meet uncommon+ monsters.

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post Feb 2 2012, 19:22
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 2 2012, 23:52) *

I would say metallic aura > IA2. The main use of IA for mages is to save mana in long areans.
But that's not something necessary.

And max those aura slot and pack rat first. In the mean time you can decide if elemental or holy/dark suits your playstyle.
EDB plases can be obtained at a fair price if you pick those with lower EDB.

But then it's always a difficult decision. I don't see any real downsides if you choose to obtain EDB phases first.

thanks for the advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , straight to metallic then.
And if edb slightly higher than 1/2 max mdb set still too expensive, I'll go aura & rat.
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post Feb 2 2012, 22:40
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I'm not sure if anyone would know this and since there isn't a search function I figure I would post here.

I saw a "Superior Ethereal Diamond Longsword of Balance" or something along those lines in the item shop and bought it. When I went to equip the item, I found that it had turned into a "Superior Longsword of Balance". Can someone explain to me what just happened?
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post Feb 2 2012, 22:48
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QUOTE(IMNEWB @ Feb 2 2012, 12:40) *

I saw a "Superior Ethereal Diamond Longsword of Balance" or something along those lines in the item shop and bought it. When I went to equip the item, I found that it had turned into a "Superior Longsword of Balance". Can someone explain to me what just happened?

Link it ("C" button when mouse hovering).
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post Feb 2 2012, 22:56
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Feb 2 2012, 22:48) *

Link it ("C" button when mouse hovering).


http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e3129f101e

That's what the sword changed into after I bought it.
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post Feb 2 2012, 22:56
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QUOTE(IMNEWB @ Feb 2 2012, 21:40) *

I'm not sure if anyone would know this and since there isn't a search function I figure I would post here.

I saw a "Superior Ethereal Diamond Longsword of Balance" or something along those lines in the item shop and bought it. When I went to equip the item, I found that it had turned into a "Superior Longsword of Balance". Can someone explain to me what just happened?

Go here: https://e-hentai.org/?spg=usercp&arg_ucp=credits
and check and if you really bought the right sword.
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post Feb 2 2012, 23:12
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Feb 2 2012, 22:56) *

Go here: https://e-hentai.org/?spg=usercp&arg_ucp=credits
and check and if you really bought the right sword.


The funny thing is that it has not registered that I even bought the sword. I thought there was a delay period between credit spending, so I sold something to test it out and there wasn't one.

Basically I received the wrong sword for free and the one I did want has disappeared. C'est la vie I suppose.

Thanks for the help.
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post Feb 2 2012, 23:16
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QUOTE(IMNEWB @ Feb 2 2012, 15:12) *

The funny thing is that it has not registered that I even bought the sword. I thought there was a delay period between credit spending, so I sold something to test it out and there wasn't one.

Basically I received the wrong sword for free and the one I did want has disappeared. C'est la vie I suppose.

Thanks for the help.



Or you just had that second sword in your inventory and someone got the ethereal before you. Sometimes you get ninja'd when grabbing things from the bazaar.
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