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Apr 7 2010, 04:40
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MasakiLHW
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After some IW, a rapier can gain more % PA and turns?
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Apr 7 2010, 04:42
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justin87
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ Apr 6 2010, 21:40)  After some IW, a rapier can gain more % PA and turns?
I don't think so. Those stats don't change.
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Apr 7 2010, 04:58
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Wayward_Vagabond
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Turns is affected by scaling, so couldn't it go up?
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Apr 7 2010, 05:25
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Sayo Aisaka
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Apr 7 2010, 05:56
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Apr 5 2010, 16:36)  Can't I just use a montage to get proficiencies in magic? If I'm casting anything other than cure during a grind, I won't be able to last very long.
Magic Proficiency grinds aren't meant to go long. Just keep casting until you burn through your pots then flee. Then use a TOH, a low Arena, or just wait until the end of the night to regen your HP/MP.
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Apr 7 2010, 07:30
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MasakiLHW
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Arcane Meditation (x5) For a melee user, helps in what? Supportive/Deprecating/Curative spells?
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Apr 7 2010, 08:43
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QUOTE(MasakiLHW @ Apr 7 2010, 01:30)  Arcane Meditation (x5) For a melee user, helps in what? Supportive/Deprecating/Curative spells?
Not really. Save it for Heartseeker.
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Apr 7 2010, 18:57
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QUOTE(hariaku @ Apr 6 2010, 14:01)  Well, I've been looking over this thread and can safely say I don't know much about staffs. This is the current one I'm using and it seems pretty good to me. I suppose my question is should I look for another one? Most of the clothing I have for this setup is elementalist and I usually only use bolt and on rare occasions holy, but I suppose that will change in the future. Fine Ebony Staff of FocusWhat kind of stats are you getting after scaling on that? I wonder if you couldn't find a better one around your level. Also, am I the only one who only uses staffs with the suffix "Of Destruction"? Every other staff I see if just awful. Awful I say.
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Apr 7 2010, 19:07
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hariaku
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Thanks to the others that have given their suggestions. QUOTE(Boggyb @ Apr 7 2010, 09:57)  What kind of stats are you getting after scaling on that? I wonder if you couldn't find a better one around your level.
Also, am I the only one who only uses staffs with the suffix "Of Destruction"? Every other staff I see if just awful. Awful I say.
These are the stats I'm getting after the scale. Actually I just grabbed the staff with the highest ether theft Fine Ebony Staff of Focus Weapon Damage Type Crushing Attack Damage Multiplier + 5.76 % (+ 3.88) % Magic Damage Multiplier + 20.96 % (+ 14.13) % Magic Accuracy Bonus + 52.93 % (+ 50.81) % Magic Critical Bonus + 6.05 % (+ 5.81) % Burden + 10.36 Proficiency Bonuses Elemental + 15.94 (+ 9.55) Deprecating + 11.95 (+ 7.16) Elemental Damage Bonuses Fire + 7.79 (+ 4.66) Cold + 5.19 (+ 3.11) Elec + 6.49 (+ 3.89) Wind + 1.30 (+ 0.78) Primary Attribute Bonuses Wisdom + 0.53 (+ 0.27) Intelligence + 4.25 (+ 2.16) Hit Proc: 40% chance for Ether Theft Duration: 2 turns Level 167 / Slot: Staff / Type: Staff
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Apr 7 2010, 22:43
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hariaku
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Here's a link to some tips for starters. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_AdviceI'm not really an expert on this, but I've heard that it's probably a bad idea to start out as a mage. That class seems to require a lot of ability points to run and that's difficult early on.
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Apr 8 2010, 02:24
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Panuru
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QUOTE(hariaku @ Apr 7 2010, 15:43)  I'm not really an expert on this, but I've heard that it's probably a bad idea to start out as a mage. That class seems to require a lot of ability points to run and that's difficult early on.
AP aren't a big problem right away, but planning ahead is a must. I'm guessing that's why the poor guy doesn't have cure yet (get cure!) Limited elemental spells is a pain in the butt, and there's a narrower range of equipment that works well for the style. In this particular case, I would recommend raising END and AGI.
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Apr 8 2010, 12:48
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Ninjin
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thanks for the answers. So Int and Wis is not that important at the beginnig? Ok, END and AGI and when should I focus on other stats? Well I don't want a complet classguide, just: "Ok, now you are healthy enough to focus on your mage stuff" or something like that^^
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Apr 8 2010, 18:59
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ChosenUno
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Well, my advice to you is to play as a melee char for a while. Get your credits up, and then train ability points. At low levels, you don't have the resources to get what you need tbh.
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Apr 9 2010, 01:04
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Apr 7 2010, 17:57)  Also, am I the only one who only uses staffs with the suffix "Of Destruction"? Every other staff I see if just awful. Awful I say.
I'm currently using a Destruction staff, but that's partly because it happens to have significantly better Ether Theft than any of my Elementalist ones.
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Apr 9 2010, 23:04
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hgbdd
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Just back to the ET issue here: QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Apr 6 2010, 21:54)  You can get ET a lot more than that if you're actively trying to get it, in which case it makes sense to use a staff with a high proc chance.
I just clear a +120 level exquisite item with 6 lesser mana potions and 2 lesser mana draughts, maging relying only with a +7% elec bonus phase piece, and the other pieces just high evasion silk. My staff was what were called a 20% chance 1 turn ET "crappy" staff of destruction, and I can't beat Longest Journey without items like Sayo did, oblivious because Sayo have much better mage stuff, still he have trouble clearing his Fine axe with the same level on normal, so I have to agree with Boggyb here: QUOTE(Boggyb @ Apr 6 2010, 17:12)  Ether theft is overrated. You proc it, what, 2-3 times at most during an arena? Ether theft should be a distant 2nd (or possibly even 3rd) when deciding on staffs.
QUOTE(Boggyb @ Apr 7 2010, 17:57)  Also, am I the only one who only uses staffs with the suffix "Of Destruction"? Every other staff I see if just awful. Awful I say.
I think the reason why on arena ET is more important is simple: because every turn have lots of mini-boss which gives much more opportunity to get CM. On the other hand IW/Fest mini-bosses appear more rarely so it's more mana efective the damage boost rather ET.
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Apr 11 2010, 02:00
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ChosenUno
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I have one question. Since now, I'm going for a mage build, my burden and interference is really low: 23 and 0 respectively, and my action speed is 130, should I drop haste and go for shadow veil instead?
This post has been edited by ChosenUno: Apr 11 2010, 02:21
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Apr 11 2010, 02:27
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Apr 10 2010, 17:00)  I have one question. Since now, I'm going for a mage build, my burden and interference is really low: 23 and 0 respectively, and my action speed is 130, should I drop haste and go for shadow veil instead? Not everybody thinks that "Shadow Veil" is important. EVERYBODY from Mage to Mighty Warrior agrees that "Haste is a needed spell.
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Apr 11 2010, 02:39
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Does anyone care about weapon's Attack Damage Multiplier? if not, why?
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Apr 11 2010, 04:50
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Apr 9 2010, 22:04)  Just back to the ET issue here:
I just clear a +120 level exquisite item with 6 lesser mana potions and 2 lesser mana draughts, maging relying only with a +7% elec bonus phase piece, and the other pieces just high evasion silk. My staff was what were called a 20% chance 1 turn ET "crappy" staff of destruction, and I can't beat Longest Journey without items like Sayo did, oblivious because Sayo have much better mage stuff, still he have trouble clearing his Fine axe with the same level on normal, so I have to agree with Boggyb here:
Actually I was using a heavy armour melee setup for Item World, because that's what used to let me survive the longest. But when I tried clearing my Axe with my mage gear the other day, I ended up using fewer items than before. So it looks like I've been doing it wrong. (Never mind, I needed to raise my DW prof too, so all that hacking away wasn't a complete waste of effort...)
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