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Jan 21 2012, 01:32
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jonasjoao
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42 Str 62 Dex 14 Agi 43 End 1 Int 22 Wis
Currently using a Two Handed Mace, are my stats ok? And which stats should I focus from now on?
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Jan 21 2012, 02:09
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trikon000
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@varst After buying all that shade gear from auctions and shops, I am mostly tired of going through a month or so obtaining another set I might not be able to get due to someone outbidding me on an item. I'd really like to save my hath for the auras and IA slots I need first.
But after looking at the phase EDB stuff, man shade gear is a whole lot cheaper.
@jonasjoao You might need more AGI unless you got gear augmenting the stat.
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Jan 21 2012, 02:15
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rpgman1
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Jan 20 2012, 19:09)  @varst After buying all that shade gear from auctions and shops, I am mostly tired of going through a month or so obtaining another set I might not be able to get due to someone outbidding me on an item. I'd really like to save my hath for the auras and IA slots I need first.
But after looking at the phase EDB stuff, man shade gear is a whole lot cheaper. @jonasjoao You might need more AGI unless you got gear augmenting the stat.
Generally yes, but you can get some great deals in the WTS section. I ended up getting a Superior Shade Helmet of Negation for 5k, but the Shadowdancer version went for over 500k. Phase is generally expensive, but you can get some deals from it.
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Jan 21 2012, 02:45
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jonasjoao
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QUOTE(trikon000 @ Jan 21 2012, 02:09)  @varst After buying all that shade gear from auctions and shops, I am mostly tired of going through a month or so obtaining another set I might not be able to get due to someone outbidding me on an item. I'd really like to save my hath for the auras and IA slots I need first.
But after looking at the phase EDB stuff, man shade gear is a whole lot cheaper. @jonasjoao You might need more AGI unless you got gear augmenting the stat.
Just spent some exp on AGI and now I have 36, thanks! Have a k+
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Jan 21 2012, 02:53
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rpgman1
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AGI is important since with Haste, you get possibly an extra turn before the enemies start attacking on their 1st turn. It really helps out a lot and saved me from being a target to those enemies.
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Jan 21 2012, 08:16
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king zeal
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so, for the 2nd tier spells, i used reset ap from tier 1 spells to rank.
Should I do the same for 3rd tier spells and reset 2nd tier spells?
and as for holy/dark/soul spells, should I bother resetting its 1st tier? or should i not since there's only 2 tiers to these spells.
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Jan 21 2012, 08:52
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trikon000
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QUOTE(king zeal @ Jan 21 2012, 01:16)  so, for the 2nd tier spells, i used reset ap from tier 1 spells to rank.
Should I do the same for 3rd tier spells and reset 2nd tier spells?
and as for holy/dark/soul spells, should I bother resetting its 1st tier? or should i not since there's only 2 tiers to these spells.
Not really once you can get tier 2 and tier 3 elementals, you want to be able to coast through rounds with the least amount of mana to kill everything. For some it is lvl 1 elementals will kill everything if you got high EDB elemental gear. When you don't have high EDB gear yet, your going to be relying on the lvl 2 AoE spells to take out everything with the least amount of mana. Once you fill out your lvl 3, go back and fill out your lvl 1 again. For holy and dark and soul, you might as well keep both lvls for dark and soul. For holy you can do like the elemental and go back and get it when your done with lvl 3. You might have to fill out more AP from the Ability Boost than what you should get if your not getting artifacts turned into AP. From my Ability tree, I don't have many resets and I was melee before doing mage.
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Jan 21 2012, 09:40
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aiwotorimodose
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RL on lv 110 with only magic missile (because my forbidden prof is still 0), possible or just wasting life?
I have 8 item slot with crappy equip.
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Jan 21 2012, 09:51
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varst
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@buktore I agree that character stat/auras now has minimal effect on the character's build. The quality of equipment dominates, but isn't that desired for Tenb? Sometimes I'm not so sure why I'm still talking about 'strategy'....maybe I should just tell them to get better equipments? QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Jan 21 2012, 15:40)  RL on lv 110 with only magic missile (because my forbidden prof is still 0), possible or just wasting life?
I have 8 item slot with crappy equip.
Should be okay, just use ET for mana and bring SP potions.
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Jan 21 2012, 09:54
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trikon000
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If you don't have a high prof gear in dark and a high EDB staff your likely wasting the tokens trying it with a prof of zero.
I don't mage on RoB, I mostly DW there since I am going for surviving over magic dmg. So a pure mage might have a strat for taking it out.
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Jan 21 2012, 09:57
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Slobber
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I would suggest not maging RL until you get soul burst. It'll take too long otherwise IMO. Or as Trikon suggested, use dual wielding
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Jan 21 2012, 10:02
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hzqr
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Waiting 150 levels just to Soul Burst Real Life on Normal seems a bit overkill, especially if he's only interested in the 50k clear bonus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Jan 21 2012, 10:05
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trikon000
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Soul Burst does that much damage where I can cast it a few times and it is dead? or is that also with EDB gear?
This post has been edited by trikon000: Jan 21 2012, 10:07
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Jan 21 2012, 10:13
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hzqr
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Soul Burst does about 5 times the damage of Soul Harvest Fighting Real Life is usually a waste of time, though. Blood Tokens are better spent on FSM.
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Jan 21 2012, 10:14
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varst
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I've seen players using MM to defeat RL without any 'strategy'. Sure it takes a long time, but that 50k bonus should worth it, especially at their level.
I even know some players who have the patience to defeat IPU with MM and poison, but that requires a bit strategy.
@trikon000
If you're using MM to defeat RL, the prof. concerned is elemental instead of forbidden. If you want to defeat RL using soul harvest, then forbidden prof. matters.
And obviously using soul harvest is more systematic, but it requires a set of demon-fiend to be effective.
Also, soul burst is affected by forbidden prof only; there's no EDB corresponding to soul damage. And yes, soul burst is OP.
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Jan 21 2012, 10:20
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trikon000
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You might want to edit out that last part or Tenboro might just decide to nerf all the lvl3 elemental and lvl2 dark and soul spells.
I want to at least get to lvl 250 and try it out before the next patch. I don't feel like doing 1H/shield if he decides to make that the melee of choice.
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Jan 21 2012, 10:24
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varst
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No problem. Soul burst has been nerfed about 10 times between patches (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jan 21 2012, 10:30
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trikon000
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That is kinda comforting to know, I'm probably screwed by the time I get there. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Jan 21 2012, 10:37
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skillchip
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Soul burst can give you some HUGE numbers, but its nowhere near as mana efficient as dark/holy which are not as efficient as elemental. The mana costs outrun the damage quickly
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Jan 21 2012, 10:56
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Ballistic9
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In my Fenrir gear my Soul spell multiplier is ~4800. With the best Soul damage gear (max demon-fiend + max exq. katalox destro staff) that goes up to ~7000. In comparison my Dark spell multiplier is ~14000.
Edit: multiplier only includes base damage/gear/prof.
This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Jan 21 2012, 11:14
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