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Good, since I am getting like 4-5 artifacts a day, I should maybe max the +20 stats in a month or 2.

What is the minimum PL for monsters to start delivering me goods? Mine is a PL 34 Mechanoid and has yet to deliver anything to me.

There is a formula for the drop, I just don't know it. but you should have several monsters at different levels to bring in the other types of materials you need. Having a few high level monsters to bring in the more valuable items.

I have a PL17 monster and it brings me in a wood scraps and low cloth and it still has zero kills and zero killing blows. You might have to up some of the stats on it. I haven't found a real minimum other than upping some of the stats before it brings you anything.

What is the minimum PL for monsters to start delivering me goods?

1.

Okay my monster won 1 battle today, but no killing blow. Usually it just sits there. Guess I need to create another monster. What monster type should I go for next?

These are the types of monsters I got and at what PL from the picture, you can see what types of items I am getting at the moment.

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Did you fill in skill name? I'm not sure if he will be able to use MP attack with nothing there. And that ofc lowers chance of killing blow significantly, especially on lower levels.

Anyway your previous question was constructed wrong. I once had lvl 1 bring me gift. What MAKES for interesting information is what level is required to start getting kills. I have my theories, but I'd like definitive answer.

You get kills when your monster stats exceed the abilities of the victim.

Filling in the skill name is not a requirement, it just makes for some interesting labeling when the system outputs it to the battle log.

You get kills when your monster stats exceed the abilities of the victim.

Filling in the skill name is not a requirement, it just makes for some interesting labeling when the system outputs it to the battle log.

Darn, that means I need to farm crystals to raise its stats. Most of the players are higher leveled, but if there are newbies around then it makes it easier.

1. 2 prof. = 1 EDB IF AND ONLY IF you have 0 proficiency. Once you have more prof., EDB clearly wins.
I have made a mistake on this a long time ago, so I'm quite sure about that.

2. It depends on how you define 'efficiency'.
I can always grab a whole set of high prof. demon-fiend which only costs about 1% of my fenrir set, while suffering a 50% decrease in damage output.
With fenrir suit I can play in hell difficulty, which I may have a chance to obtain good gears.
With demon-fiend suit I can only play in hard/heroic, which I don't see any chance of getting good gears.
Will you still call that efficient?

I'm not saying that gossamers are rubbish, but as Ichy have said, they're for poor men.
As soon as you've earned enough credits you should start finding phases.

I'd say 50% of the damage for 1% of the cost is pretty darn good cost efficiency.

It's not the highest efficiency for damage, but that was never what I was claiming.
Just cost efficiency, ie what you get for what you spend.

Oh whoa so they can go beyond that? Good to know!

Though I guess that's not happening unless you want to show off with some Gossamer or something lol...

Most mages probably have higher proficiency than their level, since the staff gives proficiency.

mmmm i thought both base and effective is seen on the character page? might cause confusion. maybe state that it's located in the scroll section

e: "under statistics"

Base is on the character page, effective is on the right hand side, which also factors in interference (decreases prof if over 25) and also shows other things after all factors have been considered.
Unfortunately, you can't cast supportive spells on yourself outside of combat, would be nice to do that so you could see what you get from the different buffs. Would be nice to for example the actual effect of protection, or how arcane focus affects your crit chance etc.

What is the minimum PL for monsters to start delivering me goods? Mine is a PL 34 Mechanoid and has yet to deliver anything to me.

PL 1 is minimum.
The chance to get something is something like the number of matches won since you last got an item from it, multiplied by the amount of hours since you last checked the monsters.
With a minimum chance to get something every hour, so you can get a whole bunch of PL 1 monsters and check them regularly and you'll get stuff even if they never win any fights.


This post has been edited by Randommember: Jan 12 2012, 21:43

My first monster, I didn't do anything with it for like 20+ some lvls, your going to need to get around lvl 100 do some resonable runs in Crysfest. You can also use it for a leveler if you got the AP into EXP tanks and AL in the trainer.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Jan 12 2012, 21:43

Base is on the character page, effective is on the right hand side, which also factors in interference (decreases prof if over 25) and also shows other things after all factors have been considered.
Unfortunately, you can't cast supportive spells on yourself outside of combat, would be nice to do that so you could see what you get from the different buffs. Would be nice to for example the actual effect of protection, or how arcane focus affects your crit chance etc.

Was referring to this: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Effective_Proficiency

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"Effective proficiency can be seen on your character page. " <- is basically a confusing statement

e: nicely done joe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by dcherry: Jan 12 2012, 22:07

Fixed.

Since trikon has similar lvl to myself, but clearly follows different monster leveling strategy, I decided to post my own gifts as a reference. We probably even used ~comparable amount of crystals.

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Ad1 I had binding of sutr and some more low wood too, but decided to see how forge works.
Ad2 I never do crys/grindfest, only arenas and occasionaly IW for those elemental phases that dropped for me.
Ad3 I did, however, bought some few hundred crystals.

Seems obvious equal leveling brings in more yield, unless you can boost a monster past 250 to rake in highest stuff. I cannot.

Can't really rake in anything high very often until you can get the crystal hath perks. getting them without donating will likely take a year or more just for the first one via H@H and buying hath. Really need to be able to donate and get the adopt-a-server stuff available to get the perks in a reasonable time frame.

If I had to really wait for a year or so to donate, I would lose interest again and then probably be farming for items in Diablo III and then selling for real money with the 5 computers I got.

This post has been edited by trikon000: Jan 12 2012, 23:14

Crystarium is like 21 milion, then bringing your monster to, say, 300... I don't even know how much. And in return you get gifts somewhat more frequently, and get a (small they say) chance at high-grade...

Sorry, but even if I had 50 mil dropped on me, I'd NOT spend them on 250+ plvl monster.

Looks like my PL 34 monster is finally getting some battles. 2 battles with 1 killing blow so far. Hoping to get some materials soon.

Other question about monsters: sometimes I've seen some monsters that hits with their specials for 600+ damage. It's because the stat of their specials (dex, for example) are very high?


This post has been edited by EvertonBNU: Jan 13 2012, 00:06

Good, since I am getting like 4-5 artifacts a day, I should maybe max the +20 stats in a month or 2.

I barely get 3 Artifacts a week. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Either you're amazingly lucky, or I'm absurdly unlucky.

all depends how many rounds you clear.