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I'm not sure if you can even sustain that in normal....
The safest method is to bring many spirit potions and ET from legends for mana, but that will be freaking slow.

Round 64/100 so far with with 10 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit potions left. It's taking forever. I have to stop and ET like every other round, so I should have brought more Spirit Potions in retrospect; having to farm SP with Soul Reaper was lame. I'm not touching this arena again until I assemble a proper suit.

Round 64/100 so far with with 10 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit potions left. It's taking forever. I have to stop and ET like every other round, so I should have brought more Spirit Potions in retrospect; having to farm SP with Soul Reaper was lame. I'm not touching this arena again until I assemble a proper suit.

Everyone starts playing EOD with ETing every round (or every few rounds), so that's not something so abnormal.

And you raise the monster's PL with Crystals, right?

Yes. Tons of them if you want something useful.

Staff of focus (ebony or redwood) and leaning heavily on intelect is how mage starts - you want to minimize missed shots. Then turn towards hp and mana, and their stats - endurance and wisdom. Whenever you notice you cannot use blast (get attacked/ heal / blast (get attacked), or heal at very start of round without monsters launching their attack after heal, is the time you need more speed (=agi). But never boost your agi past your wisdom, and your wisdom past int. Str gives you hp at quater rate of end, and dex is almost useless.

As far as abilities go, focus on maxing inferno first, its 2x cost is no problem at start. Do not bother with fireball, use magic missle when not infernoing. It will last till 20 when you get Thunderstorm - save ability points from 15 onward so you can max it asap. Do not invest in exp at first - you want to hoard max credits before you hit points of sharply increased difficulty, and not at all in spirit and overcharge.

Gear is simple, only use cloth of elementalist, if you have none, plug the slot with any cloth. Do not use leather or plate as a mage, it itenferes with magic. Ebony staffs can do more dmg, redwoods boost other things, such as heal or buffs.

Avoid buying gear at bazaar, buy price is 10x of sell price. Browse this forum instead to buy gear from players. First arena clear rewards can afford you few nice pieces - just remember very high level items slow you down.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thats an awesome tip Valheran (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks, i will get started on it once my Stamina gets high enough!

25 18 You gain 50148 Credits!
25 17 You gain 38550 EXP!
25 16 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
25 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Cotton Gloves of the Spirit-ward]
25 14 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume]
25 13 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll]
25 12 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch]
25 11 Alice Princess dropped [Crystal of Finesse]
25 10 Titania Erza dropped [Crystal of Fortitude]
25 9 Mind Raper dropped [Godly Mana Potion]
25 8 Sora Kasugano dropped [Greater Health Potion]
25 7 You are Victorious!
25 6 Regen II restores 397 points of health.
25 5 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated.
25 4 Banish blasts Mikuru Asahina for 34723 holy damage.
25 3 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated.
25 2 Banish blasts Ryouko Asakura for 25193 holy damage.
25 1 You cast Banish.

Yay~ Took a while. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Question: Out of all the two hand weapon types, prefix and suffix being the same, which one does the most damage? I always thought Katana's did the most dmg but i just went to check an estoc vs a katana (4 lvl difference) and they were lvl318 and lvl314 respectively and the estoc did 200 damage more.
So, which 2h does the MOST dmg without upgrades and such?

Question: Out of all the two hand weapon types, prefix and suffix being the same, which one does the most damage? I always thought Katana's did the most dmg but i just went to check an estoc vs a katana (4 lvl difference) and they were lvl318 and lvl314 respectively and the estoc did 200 damage more.
So, which 2h does the MOST dmg without upgrades and such?

Strictly speaking of base damage (so no procs, overall efficiency etc), should be Scythes, with a slight edge over Katanas, followed by Maces and Estocs. Check here.

As for the weapons you compared, you need to know their base damage values - the equipment level will only tell you so much.
Use [www.starfleetplatoon.com] this instead, just paste everything from you weapon stats window there.
There should also be a nice plugin which does the same, iirc someone linked it in the HV Stat thread.

Just bookmark this page if you want some updated version of base stat plugin.

AFAIK it's updated.

I'm level 24 and I have a PL 6 Celestial monster. I'm wondering why I'm not getting any battles with her/it. Do I need to go into the item world or something?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not recall meeting any player monsters before I hit 25. That means monsters below lvl 19 will never get to fight.

Strictly speaking of base damage (so no procs, overall efficiency etc), should be Scythes, with a slight edge over Katanas, followed by Maces and Estocs. Check here.

As for the weapons you compared, you need to know their base damage values - the equipment level will only tell you so much.
Use [www.starfleetplatoon.com] this instead, just paste everything from you weapon stats window there.
There should also be a nice plugin which does the same, iirc someone linked it in the HV Stat thread.

So if i want to build a 2h character that maxes damage per swing (to maximise domino strikes) should i aim for for a Scythe of Slaughter?

The way im understanding your explaination of item is that each item is slightly different DEPENDING on the base stats of the weapon when rolled? So each item is slightly different but Scythes have the highest weapon range?

And the next question is, it seems as I scale..weapons of +stats will become better then weapons of slaughter/balance etc...is this the case?

I got a magnificent shield armor as a clear bonus from a hard legendary arena once. Probably just a freak occurence though. On the upside, hard only takes an extra ~3 pots (no ET-ing unless I stuff up).

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Jan 5 2012, 14:30

So if i want to build a 2h character that maxes damage per swing (to maximise domino strikes) should i aim for for a Scythe of Slaughter?

Well it's either Scythe or a Mace I guess.

IIRC top melee players said that Scythe does kill faster, but at your level I'd still go with Mace and get the survivability the Stun proc provides.

The way im understanding your explaination of item is that each item is slightly different DEPENDING on the base stats of the weapon when rolled? So each item is slightly different but Scythes have the highest weapon range?

Exactly, and even more than 'slightly' at times, I'd add.

You can find two weapons of the same level and suffixes, but one with like +100 damage. That's because its base damage is way higher than the other weapon's - whose other stats will then supposedly make up for that.

And the next question is, it seems as I scale..weapons of +stats will become better then weapons of slaughter/balance etc...is this the case?

Not sure I get it... You mean that +Stat suffixes (Ox, Raccoon, Cheetah etc) will be better than Slaughter, Balance ones?

If that's the case, it shouldn't be like that, every stat (proc percentage aside) will go up when an item gets a lwvel.

This post has been edited by wr4st3r: Jan 5 2012, 13:03

Katana: Good WD, AAB, ACB, bleed and you can use Wakizashi
Maces: Great WD, shit AAB, stun
Scythe: Great WD, shit AAB great bleed
Estoc: Good WD, shit AAB but you get penetrated armor

I think Scythes have great damage but you need to make up the low attack accuracy bonus someplace or you wont hit much.

Not sure I get it... You mean that +Stat suffixes (Ox, Raccoon, Cheetah etc) will be better than Slaughter, Balance ones?

If that's the case, it shouldn't be like that, every stat (proc percentage aside) will go up when an item gets a lwvel.

I just thought with the cost of increasing stats becoming more and more expensive the less balanced your stats and the higher you get, stats will outweigh the other suffixes

And Hmmm i know alot of people have said to go with Caster role but im hoping that future patches will make melee more end game viable...least i hope it should..balance does take awhile.

Wenever i play RPG games i do alot of theorycrafting and as far as i can tell..usually +hit is always higher then any other stat...im not sure if that scales the same way in this game however...

If Scythes are only slightly worse then Katana's and Katana's have higher accuracy maybe i will go with that? Or follow what you say and find myself a Mace to level me up better.

This post has been edited by valiant12: Jan 5 2012, 14:29

And Hmmm i know alot of people have said to go with Caster role but im hoping that future patches will make melee more end game viable...least i hope it should..balance does take awhile.

Mind that people say mage is better from Godslayer point of view, with lvls 2xx or 3xx, where they can pull shit like hitting for 300K+ and whatever. You should not agonize over it now, since getting there could take years, bilions of exp, and perhaps donations/years of h@h, though do not qoute me on the last one.

This post has been edited by Valheran: Jan 5 2012, 15:25

better to ask here i guess:
guys, need help, im a pure melee warrior and i dont know what should i do with hath, should i take Black aura, ot keep farming and take Rainbow later?

got the answer, thx

This post has been edited by FLCLocust: Jan 5 2012, 15:31

Mind that people say mage is better from Godslayer point of view, with lvls 2xx or 3xx, where they can pull shit like hitting for 300K+ and whatever. You should not agonize over it now, since getting there could take years, bilions of exp, and perhaps donations/years of h@h, though do not qoute me on the last one.

I would say melees may be better than mages below lv.130, before mages get aracna focus.
Also notice that mages need a shit ton of mana potions, which can be difficult to obtain.

You can reach lv.200 in a month or two if you have appropriate strategy and time to play a few hour hours per day. It's not that difficult to grind EXP once you reached lv.220, with the help of EOD arenas, SP shield and x25 difficulty.

better to ask here i guess:
guys, need help, im a pure melee warrior and i dont know what should i do with hath, should i take Black aura, ot keep farming and take Rainbow later?

Take black aura first.
You can grind credits/EXP more efficiently once you reached higher level.

Edit: It's the first time I get ninja'd by another thread (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by varst: Jan 5 2012, 15:33

I meant getting to the point where mage's ragnarok hits for megapwn values, not getting to lvl 200 in finne cotton of elementalist. Wherever that point is.

You shouldn't really judge with the numbers in the highest damage done thread, they may not reflect average playing values.

I'm not really, just pointing that much can change untill today's lowbies get to where many of those who advocate maging are now. It's definitely not something that should be agonized over - Tenebro did say he is somwhat unsatisfied with overall mage gameplay, after all. Who can tell how the balance will look 3 years from now?

Yeah I agree. So I always rely on you guys' response so our advices can be more accurate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Some people want to know how to advance efficiently, and I will always give them my insights.
However, in order to enjoy a game, you must develop and play in your own style.