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Jan 5 2012, 09:28
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monkeyjack
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I'm level 24 and I have a PL 6 Celestial monster. I'm wondering why I'm not getting any battles with her/it. Do I need to go into the item world or something?
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Jan 5 2012, 09:33
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Mr. Plow
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QUOTE(monkeyjack @ Jan 4 2012, 23:28)  I'm level 24 and I have a PL 6 Celestial monster. I'm wondering why I'm not getting any battles with her/it. Do I need to go into the item world or something?
Nah, it just takes a while to rack up the kills. I think the suggested sweetspot is somewhere between 70 and 100 (but after 100 there's a steep drop off).
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Jan 5 2012, 09:34
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rpgman1
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Okay just unlock the Monster Lab and the Ring of Blood. I wonder what monster should I go for? Also, is the Ring of Blood challenging at my current level?
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Jan 5 2012, 09:40
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n125
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 4 2012, 23:12)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I usually just play on Heroic or Nightmare, but yeah, I think I'll just try clearing it on Normal since I doubt 41% Holy EDB and 230% Divine proficiency will get me far...In fact, I'm not even sure if that's enough for Normal. QUOTE(rpgman1 @ Jan 4 2012, 23:34)  Okay just unlock the Monster Lab and the Ring of Blood. I wonder what monster should I go for? Also, is the Ring of Blood challenging at my current level?
I recommend doing each Ring of Blood arena for the clear bonus and then just hording Tokens of Blood until you can routinely do FSM. As for monsters, I'm not really sure; I thing Giants are capable of racking up kills.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:40
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sigo8
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ Jan 4 2012, 23:34)  Okay just unlock the Monster Lab and the Ring of Blood. I wonder what monster should I go for? Also, is the Ring of Blood challenging at my current level?
It's recommended that you wait till you have spark of life at level 100.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:45
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monkeyjack
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QUOTE(Mr. Plow @ Jan 5 2012, 09:33)  Nah, it just takes a while to rack up the kills. I think the suggested sweetspot is somewhere between 70 and 100 (but after 100 there's a steep drop off).
You mean, I need to kill between 70 to 100 monsters before anything happens? Egads. Thanks for the tip.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:58
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varst
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ Jan 5 2012, 15:34)  Okay just unlock the Monster Lab and the Ring of Blood. I wonder what monster should I go for? Also, is the Ring of Blood challenging at my current level?
Bosses are not that challenging at your level. The safe way is to bring 1-2 scrolls of life and use them when the bosses have almost full SP. Again, save the tokens against FSM. QUOTE(n125 @ Jan 5 2012, 15:40)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I usually just play on Heroic or Nightmare, but yeah, I think I'll just try clearing it on Normal since I doubt 41% Holy EDB and 230% Divine proficiency will get me far...In fact, I'm not even sure if that's enough for Normal. I'm not sure if you can even sustain that in normal.... The safest method is to bring many spirit potions and ET from legends for mana, but that will be freaking slow. QUOTE(monkeyjack @ Jan 5 2012, 15:45)  You mean, I need to kill between 70 to 100 monsters before anything happens? Egads. Thanks for the tip.
No, he means you may need to raise your monster's level to PL70-100 before you can see your monster getting any kills. There are so many monsters with PL under 100 right now, there's a slim chance you're going to meet your monster. Also, you're most likely to meet monsters with PL equals to your level (if you're under lv.100), so the chance to meet your monster is even smaller.
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Jan 5 2012, 10:04
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rpgman1
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Guess I'll save those tokens of blood then. I got 2 of them anyway. No one yet decided which monster type is best then?
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Jan 5 2012, 10:12
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monkeyjack
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 5 2012, 09:58)  Bosses are not that challenging at your level. The safe way is to bring 1-2 scrolls of life and use them when the bosses have almost full SP. Again, save the tokens against FSM. I'm not sure if you can even sustain that in normal.... The safest method is to bring many spirit potions and ET from legends for mana, but that will be freaking slow. No, he means you may need to raise your monster's level to PL70-100 before you can see your monster getting any kills. There are so many monsters with PL under 100 right now, there's a slim chance you're going to meet your monster. Also, you're most likely to meet monsters with PL equals to your level (if you're under lv.100), so the chance to meet your monster is even smaller.
And you raise the monster's PL with Crystals, right?
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Jan 5 2012, 10:13
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n125
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 4 2012, 23:58)  I'm not sure if you can even sustain that in normal.... The safest method is to bring many spirit potions and ET from legends for mana, but that will be freaking slow.
Round 64/100 so far with with 10 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit potions left. It's taking forever. I have to stop and ET like every other round, so I should have brought more Spirit Potions in retrospect; having to farm SP with Soul Reaper was lame. I'm not touching this arena again until I assemble a proper suit.
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Jan 5 2012, 10:37
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varst
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jan 5 2012, 16:13)  Round 64/100 so far with with 10 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit potions left. It's taking forever. I have to stop and ET like every other round, so I should have brought more Spirit Potions in retrospect; having to farm SP with Soul Reaper was lame. I'm not touching this arena again until I assemble a proper suit.
Everyone starts playing EOD with ETing every round (or every few rounds), so that's not something so abnormal. QUOTE(monkeyjack @ Jan 5 2012, 16:12)  And you raise the monster's PL with Crystals, right?
Yes. Tons of them if you want something useful.
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Jan 5 2012, 10:51
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sandrock12
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QUOTE(Valheran @ Jan 5 2012, 01:55)  Staff of focus (ebony or redwood) and leaning heavily on intelect is how mage starts - you want to minimize missed shots. Then turn towards hp and mana, and their stats - endurance and wisdom. Whenever you notice you cannot use blast (get attacked/ heal / blast (get attacked), or heal at very start of round without monsters launching their attack after heal, is the time you need more speed (=agi). But never boost your agi past your wisdom, and your wisdom past int. Str gives you hp at quater rate of end, and dex is almost useless.
As far as abilities go, focus on maxing inferno first, its 2x cost is no problem at start. Do not bother with fireball, use magic missle when not infernoing. It will last till 20 when you get Thunderstorm - save ability points from 15 onward so you can max it asap. Do not invest in exp at first - you want to hoard max credits before you hit points of sharply increased difficulty, and not at all in spirit and overcharge.
Gear is simple, only use cloth of elementalist, if you have none, plug the slot with any cloth. Do not use leather or plate as a mage, it itenferes with magic. Ebony staffs can do more dmg, redwoods boost other things, such as heal or buffs.
Avoid buying gear at bazaar, buy price is 10x of sell price. Browse this forum instead to buy gear from players. First arena clear rewards can afford you few nice pieces - just remember very high level items slow you down.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thats an awesome tip Valheran (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks, i will get started on it once my Stamina gets high enough!
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Jan 5 2012, 11:03
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n125
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25 18 You gain 50148 Credits! 25 17 You gain 38550 EXP! 25 16 Your HP and MP have been fully restored! 25 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Cotton Gloves of the Spirit-ward] 25 14 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume] 25 13 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll] 25 12 White Bunneh dropped [Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch] 25 11 Alice Princess dropped [Crystal of Finesse] 25 10 Titania Erza dropped [Crystal of Fortitude] 25 9 Mind Raper dropped [Godly Mana Potion] 25 8 Sora Kasugano dropped [Greater Health Potion] 25 7 You are Victorious! 25 6 Regen II restores 397 points of health. 25 5 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated. 25 4 Banish blasts Mikuru Asahina for 34723 holy damage. 25 3 Ryouko Asakura has been defeated. 25 2 Banish blasts Ryouko Asakura for 25193 holy damage. 25 1 You cast Banish. Yay~ Took a while. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jan 5 2012, 11:27
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valiant12
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Question: Out of all the two hand weapon types, prefix and suffix being the same, which one does the most damage? I always thought Katana's did the most dmg but i just went to check an estoc vs a katana (4 lvl difference) and they were lvl318 and lvl314 respectively and the estoc did 200 damage more. So, which 2h does the MOST dmg without upgrades and such?
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Jan 5 2012, 11:36
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wr4st3r
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QUOTE(valiant12 @ Jan 5 2012, 10:27)  Question: Out of all the two hand weapon types, prefix and suffix being the same, which one does the most damage? I always thought Katana's did the most dmg but i just went to check an estoc vs a katana (4 lvl difference) and they were lvl318 and lvl314 respectively and the estoc did 200 damage more. So, which 2h does the MOST dmg without upgrades and such?
Strictly speaking of base damage (so no procs, overall efficiency etc), should be Scythes, with a slight edge over Katanas, followed by Maces and Estocs. Check here. As for the weapons you compared, you need to know their base damage values - the equipment level will only tell you so much. Use [www.starfleetplatoon.com] this instead, just paste everything from you weapon stats window there. There should also be a nice plugin which does the same, iirc someone linked it in the HV Stat thread.
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Jan 5 2012, 11:47
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varst
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Just bookmark this page if you want some updated version of base stat plugin. AFAIK it's updated.
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Jan 5 2012, 12:17
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Valheran
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QUOTE(monkeyjack @ Jan 5 2012, 08:28)  I'm level 24 and I have a PL 6 Celestial monster. I'm wondering why I'm not getting any battles with her/it. Do I need to go into the item world or something?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not recall meeting any player monsters before I hit 25. That means monsters below lvl 19 will never get to fight.
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Jan 5 2012, 12:37
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valiant12
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QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Jan 5 2012, 11:36)  Strictly speaking of base damage (so no procs, overall efficiency etc), should be Scythes, with a slight edge over Katanas, followed by Maces and Estocs. Check here. As for the weapons you compared, you need to know their base damage values - the equipment level will only tell you so much. Use [www.starfleetplatoon.com] this instead, just paste everything from you weapon stats window there. There should also be a nice plugin which does the same, iirc someone linked it in the HV Stat thread. So if i want to build a 2h character that maxes damage per swing (to maximise domino strikes) should i aim for for a Scythe of Slaughter? The way im understanding your explaination of item is that each item is slightly different DEPENDING on the base stats of the weapon when rolled? So each item is slightly different but Scythes have the highest weapon range? And the next question is, it seems as I scale..weapons of +stats will become better then weapons of slaughter/balance etc...is this the case?
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Jan 5 2012, 12:40
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Ballistic9
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I got a magnificent shield armor as a clear bonus from a hard legendary arena once. Probably just a freak occurence though. On the upside, hard only takes an extra ~3 pots (no ET-ing unless I stuff up).
This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Jan 5 2012, 14:30
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