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post Dec 26 2017, 03:07
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 26 2017, 02:14) *

Wrong. DwD is equivalebnt to a T8 trophy, while TT&T is equivalent to a T7 trophy.

oh, sorry. according to https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Trophies PF DwD is also T7

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post Dec 26 2017, 03:12
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Is it worth it to offer the Christmas trophies to the shrine or just sell it for 600k?
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:26
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Dec 25 2017, 20:12) *

Is it worth it to offer the Christmas trophies to the shrine or just sell it for 600k?

Sell. I think Ckyc is still offering 840k for a Mysterious Tooth.
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:30
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Dec 25 2017, 23:12) *

Is it worth it to offer the Christmas trophies to the shrine or just sell it for 600k?

I got a four mag staff myself that were worth 4 high grade woods (o´▽`o) so instead of guaranteed over 1M credits I got less than 0,030M worth of materials so that is that...

The prices for the Mysterious Tooth are kind high on WTB, so heavily consider selling it at least.






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post Dec 26 2017, 03:38
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 26 2017, 02:07) *
oh, sorry. according to https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Trophies PF DwD is also T7


I already knew the wiki regarding this was inaccurate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But unfortunately, I can't update it without having a bit more solid info. I don't even know if we should scrap the concept of "trophy tier" or not, that's why I haven't touched anything yet.
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:47
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Hi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In general, for heavy armour would a "Slaughter" suffix with a non-Savage prefix be considered to be much better than a Savage of Protection armor all other things ignored?
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:48
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Dec 26 2017, 02:47) *

Hi (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

In general, for heavy armour would a "Slaughter" suffix with a non-Savage prefix be considered to be much better than a Savage of Protection armor all other things ignored?

Yes.
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:53
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 26 2017, 03:48) *

Yes.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Well, thank you.
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post Dec 26 2017, 03:56
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Dec 26 2017, 02:53) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Well, thank you.

While we are at it, at level <400, putting one Balance piece in your build can't hurt.

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post Dec 26 2017, 04:02
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 26 2017, 03:56) *

While we are at it, at level <400, putting one Balance piece in your build can't hurt.

Thanks for the attention (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Setton-san @ Dec 26 2017, 03:12) *

Is it worth it to offer the Christmas trophies to the shrine or just sell it for 600k?

If you let me put my situation, I sold the "unique" trophy and shrined the other three ones. I don't know if I got lucky (or it was expected), but I ended up getting actually three legendary pieces of heavy armour. Two plates and, funny enough (as the reply above said it would be interesting to have) one Power Helmet of Balance (although from what I understood "Mithril" isn't a good prefix, but I am still happy to have it).

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post Dec 26 2017, 04:37
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QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Dec 26 2017, 03:02) *

If you let me put my situation, I sold the "unique" trophy and shrined the other three ones. I don't know if I got lucky (or it was expected), but I ended up getting actually three legendary pieces of heavy armour. Two plates and, funny enough (as the reply above said it would be interesting to have) one Power Helmet of Balance (although from what I understood "Mithril" isn't a good prefix, but I am still happy to have it).

Got lucky, and kinda paid 400k or so for that Helmet basically, since Plates don't really go for much.
If rolls in that Helmet are good, it is a nice piece.
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post Dec 26 2017, 04:42
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 26 2017, 08:14) *

Wrong. DwD is equivalebnt to a T8 trophy, while TT&T is equivalent to a T7 trophy.



How hard is PFD ttnt? I only did it once at IWBTH for the clear bonus. I don't think my armors can support me under so many spirit attacks.
QUOTE(dio.med1989 @ Dec 26 2017, 10:02) *

Thanks for the attention (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If you let me put my situation, I sold the "unique" trophy and shrined the other three ones. I don't know if I got lucky (or it was expected), but I ended up getting actually three legendary pieces of heavy armour.

Three legends.....I should've keep them for myself, but I sold them for 150k each... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Dec 26 2017, 04:46
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 26 2017, 03:42) *

How hard is PFD ttnt? I only did it once at IWBTH for the clear bonus. I don't think my armors can support me under so many spirit attacks.

Worried about being flimsy? Use Haste and Shadow Veil.

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Three legends.....I should've keep them for myself, but I sold them for 150k each... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

He could have gotten muuuch worse stuff.
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post Dec 26 2017, 04:48
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 25 2017, 18:46) *

Worried about being flimsy? Use Haste and Shadow Veil.
He could have gotten muuuch worse stuff.

I shrined for cloth. Got three HGC.

Oh well.
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post Dec 26 2017, 05:01
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 26 2017, 00:42) *
How hard is PFD ttnt? I only did it once at IWBTH for the clear bonus. I don't think my armors can support me under so many spirit attacks.

Heavy use of debuffs + weapon skills = can be done.
According to some old PMs, I did it at lvl ~257 hadn't neither OFC nor a full mag power set by then. ( ̄ω ̄) EDIT: probably had a full mag power set because I had my first Legendary drop, a Plate at the same week on my checklist that I don't ever remember considering equipping it.

Got nothing worth a single Noddly, much less two ヽ(`⌒´メ)ノ! so never ever tried doing it again so I know for sure that it was at PFUDOR because it is listed there (´。• ω •。`).

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 26 2017, 00:42) *
Three legends.....I should've keep them for myself, but I sold them for 150k each... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

My man, you could have got 4 High Grade Metals, just saying <( ̄︶ ̄)>
450k + 650k will buy your Leg Elemental Rapier of Slaughter if you are willing to soulfuse.

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post Dec 26 2017, 05:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 23 2017, 22:46) *

in case you guys forgot it, IW has bad multipliers for, uh... pretty much everything.

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 24 2017, 00:07) *

@Scremaz: doesn't IW have a good EXP multiplier? If the formula Non-IW_EXP * (PXP0 - 100) * 0.004 is correct a peerless Arcanist should have >1.2 EXP, which is definitely not bad.

QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 24 2017, 00:16) *

As far as I've noticed, IW XP slightly better than arenas, but only because the average amount of monsters per round is greater.


I did tests to compare the experience gain in Arenas and IW (PFUDOR, Stamina < 80).

(IMG:[imgur.com] https://imgur.com/x78sUVG.jpg)

The numbers themselves are not important (even because each has a different gain), but the simple comparison between them does. From the above, only IWs up to 55 rounds are more advantageous in terms of gain experience.

The only advantage I see of the IW on the Arenas (of the same number of rounds) is that, as the amount of monsters in the IW is higher, statistically speaking the probability of drops in general is higher. Since I do not use scripts, I can not know the exact numbers to make this comparison in the drops. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) In addition to the credits, which are markedly lower in IW, I did not see much difference in the gains from the sale of equipment to the bazaar. So the only advantage it would be for the account of other items (crystals, restoratives, infusions, scrolls, and perhaps tokens and artifacts).

The IW can be a good alternative for anyone who is not a mage, and also for those who do not want to spend hours in a row in a grindfest.
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post Dec 26 2017, 12:03
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 26 2017, 02:38) *

I don't even know if we should scrap the concept of "trophy tier" or not

no, why? but i agree we need a bit more datas.

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Dec 26 2017, 04:43) *

I did tests to compare the experience gain in Arenas and IW (PFUDOR, Stamina < 80).

hmm... so these datas are partly outdated, uh? https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battles#Battle_Modes
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post Dec 26 2017, 17:26
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Can status effects on monsters amplify the damage done by weapons with elemental damage or does the extra damage only count for spells? Thanks in advance.

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post Dec 26 2017, 17:41
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QUOTE(JFK_360_Noscope @ Dec 26 2017, 18:26) *

Can status effects on monsters amplify the damage done by weapons with elemental damage or does the extra damage only count for spells? Thanks in advance.


That bonus very low for melee, if it even exist.
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post Dec 26 2017, 18:04
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QUOTE(unit111 @ Dec 26 2017, 17:41) *

That bonus very low for melee, if it even exist.

Hey, gotta get the most from whatever you have. There aren't any elemental damage types I'm weak against so my spike shield isn't much use at all defensively but I figured it might be slightly better offensively even if the difference is significant. I'm thinking of using the frost spike shield's effect on enemies might give my tempestuous weapon a little more firepower.
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