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post Dec 20 2017, 03:03
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 19 2017, 19:25) *
I have almost 75% Pmit, 75% MMit

Is that with 5 power or mixed with plate? How much forging? How much attack speed?
The usual rending-shatter method doesn't work because skills are too slow and the tanking isn't there. 75/75 should be plenty with enough speed.
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post Dec 20 2017, 11:27
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 20 2017, 02:03) *
Is that with 5 power or mixed with plate? How much forging? How much attack speed?
The usual rending-shatter method doesn't work because skills are too slow and the tanking isn't there. 75/75 should be plenty with enough speed.


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post Dec 20 2017, 14:36
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:08
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Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword
Also fleet or shadowdancer?
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:18
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 15:08) *

Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword

FRD or not?

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 15:08) *

Also fleet or shadowdancer?

savage of fleet and plain shadowdancer may perform equally. plain fleet may be a decent filler if you want to try the style. avoid savage of shadowdancer, if you're not seriously going to invest in the build (for how cheap it may be lately)
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:25
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 16:08) *

Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword

if you don't want to use FRD, longsword is faster than mace in arenas but requires a certain minimum in armour quality. mace is slower but takes less investment to get going and is more versatile since its defensive property really shines in IWs. can't comment on estoc yet, but i'll report back once i've done some testing

if you want to use FRD, anything other than mace goes as long as you can get enough attack speed

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post Dec 20 2017, 18:44
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 09:08) *
Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword
Also fleet or shadowdancer?

Depends on how you play and how much damage you have. Against fewer enemies you just beat them to death with stance. Against more, a flowchart may help.

[start round with stance active from previous round]
[sleep/confuse/mace half]
rending blow other half
[shatter strike]
[sleep/confuse/mace first half if not previously done]
kill rending half
kill other half

Remove brackets as necessary depending on weapon, damage and defenses.
It does matter which half you kill first because of the way targeting works. If you use a skill on the first target, it will reach all four targets below; anywhere else and you have to hit the center target to reach two above and two below. Say you're hitting DEFGH and F dies first. You will no longer be able to hit all of DEGH with a skill. Targeting E will miss H, and G will miss D. So you have to figure out which half of the screen you want to start on.

Of course if you're swole you just stance up and beat everything to death like usual, but if you could do that you wouldn't be asking questions here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:25
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I just defeated Invisible Pink Unicorn on IWBTH as lvl189, dualwielding plate was my setup for it, I was originally grinding dualwielding light armor. I'm wondering if normally it's easily done because it was first time ever I did this, only playing since like a week or so. The artifacts in shrine gave me some crap items one of average quality and other one was superior. I don't know how to link my items here, as I'm a complete beginner in HV. On the side note, how do I make my lazy pets bring more ring of blood tokens?


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post Dec 20 2017, 19:28
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:25) *

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Yes, RoB is easy.
Shrining almost always gives crap stuff.
RoB Tokens are found in battle (especially in Arena Clears), pets don't bring them.



Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:38
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:28) *

Yes, RoB is easy.
Shrining almost always gives crap stuff.
RoB Tokens are found in battle (especially in Arena Clears), pets don't bring them.


Fair enough, it's actually like you said. But on that note how do I make my pets do more battles and bring more stuff? My main pet that I have at 270lvl or so and 3 points stacked in the gift factor has been doing absolutely nothing for like 150 levels. I wasted so many credits buying crystals for these useless fucks. What do I do?

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Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.


I'm probably less experienced in all this stuff, but so far I've seen no resistance for holy damage on any monsters, if some had any it was almost nothing while other resistances were incomparably higher, but ofcourse with exceptions like that unicorn I managed to kill that was all about holy damage and resist, but weak in dark magics. So with this I conclude that a mix between holy and dark could pretty much faceroll any encounter.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:46
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:28) *

Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.

- elements. which means no holy/dark
- i'm not sure you need perks. however afaik the best gears are DEA buckler of battlecaster/barrier + elemental-matching waki of nimble/battlecaster (not sure IW is relevant) + phase armors
- afaik 5 phases w/o need for forging is fine enough.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 19:46) *

(not sure IW is relevant)

the only marginally useful IW on the waki would be butcher since it makes counters a wee bit stronger
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post Dec 20 2017, 20:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 18:46) *

- afaik 5 phases w/o need for forging is fine enough.

I played elemental + imperil, which has the added benefit of grinding your depr. proficiency. For that, 4+1 is better than 5 phases, I think.
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post Dec 20 2017, 20:42
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:28) *

Yes, RoB is easy.
Shrining almost always gives crap stuff.
RoB Tokens are found in battle (especially in Arena Clears), pets don't bring them.
Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.


Back when I played 1h mage I went 5 phase, didnt forge a single level on them. The best element IMO is elec, because of the proc.

Beware that 1h mage performs poorly on SG arenas, unless you go holy/dark, which is too MP intensive.

About the other gear, the best is a battlecaster wakizashi of your element and a buckler of the barrier.

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post Dec 20 2017, 20:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 12:46) *
- elements. which means no holy/dark

Why elements? Block and parry makes up for cast speed, right? And you get etheft.
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post Dec 20 2017, 20:54
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 20 2017, 19:42) *

Why elements? Block and parry makes up for cast speed, right? And you get etheft.
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because you will run out of mana...
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post Dec 20 2017, 21:10
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 20 2017, 13:54) *
because you will run out of mana...

QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 20 2017, 13:42) *
And you get etheft.

T1 is only 2.5x more expensive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) T2 and T3 are like 1.6 and 1.4. Stance should be on, anyway. Not theory since I've actually used since back when battlecaster gear had mdb. Gave up after resists got added, and there's no point when 2h is faster.
Now 2h mage? Those were the days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 20 2017, 21:15
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 20 2017, 19:54) *

QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 20 2017, 19:42) *

Why elements? Block and parry makes up for cast speed, right? And you get etheft.

because you will run out of mana...

aye. problem isn't the speed, since you'll be tanky enough - or at least, way tankier than a mage. problem is that holy/dark spells cost more than elemental ones and (as far as i read, at least) most likely you'll end up burning more mana than what you can restore.
maybe you may proficiently use them with battlecaster/battlecaster combo, but that would mean to give up a good chunk of defense stats.
feel free to try and report though.

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uhu. good, good. so quick!
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post Dec 20 2017, 21:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 14:15) *
maybe you may proficiently use them with battlecaster/battlecaster combo, but that would mean to give up a good chunk of defense stats.

I'll try it. I remember starting with rapier/tower cold phase, then changing to holy. Current gear is shortsword/buckler with 3 elementalist 2 phase elec for a whopping prof factor 0.43. Base prof is 30 under my level, though.
There's just no point anymore with bullshitresists (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Even with perks. Maybe if magnet had an actually useful cooldown and didn't require level 400 to hit 3 targets. Nerf the effect if you have to. Magnet itself is resistable anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Edit: Tried it. Random encounter, no full ability layout. 4 phase because my only fenrir gloves are sadder than sad. Pfudor of course. 10 strong.

Got my Xerxes kicked.

Cloth cast speed is definitely a requirement. As I thought, using focus doesn't help when the damage isn't there. I did not have dark imperil (and I forgot to use an infusion >_< ) so I'll try it again with 5 phase. Mana costs were 1.5 / ~1 / 0.9 for T1/2/3. The conservation didn't matter when all the extra mana and one health+spirit elixir and every potion was spent on healing.
I sold tons of gear in the last few days so there wasn't much to choose from suffix-wise. Next time I'll drop the shield for the biggest blocker I have and if I don't get any one-shots with the opening T3, I'll just use T1 until the first five die before going back to T3.

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I miss my cold set.


Edit2: Time to get serious. (buckler)
The gloves have a little conservation so it's not a complete loss. Also added arcane focus with cloth speed and dark imperil. Only 5 monsters this time.

Ragnarok hits Tv3d for 29644 dark damage.
Strongest hit at about 37% damage. No resists! T2 crit broke 30k. T1 crits break 20k sometimes. Without focus about half of them were resisting every turn and at least one resisted at 75% or better. No healing of any kind, but I did start the round with sleep (3 hits). Ended in 5 or 6 turns.
Now that's how things are supposed to go (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I wasn't looking at the mana bar, but I doubt 88% mana modifier makes or breaks dark. No reason not to use holy if you don't want to use stance and focus for mana regen.

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post Dec 21 2017, 01:45
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Should I keep using my Magnificent Tempestuous Rapier of Balance [IW10] or swap to this Legendary Ethereal Rapier of the Illithid that I just got and try to level it?
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