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post Dec 20 2017, 01:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 00:42) *

the funny thing is that i could still improve them, but i'm too cheap to mass-forge DEX and AGI. and i doubt i'd earn so much, btw.

Let me rephrase then:
if you forge everything to the point of point of diminishing returns everything works lol

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post Dec 20 2017, 01:44
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speaking of which, too bad we don't have a proper build simulator. it would be fun to see which peaks we could reach.
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post Dec 20 2017, 02:06
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 00:44) *

speaking of which, too bad we don't have a proper build simulator. it would be fun to see which peaks we could reach.

To do that, there would be a need of a lot of data, like A LOT, i imagine.
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post Dec 20 2017, 02:15
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Did the drop rates in IW change somehow from HV 0.84?
Because i got more much more stuff in the past, and today i did like 30 stamina points of runs.
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post Dec 20 2017, 02:22
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 01:06) *

To do that, there would be a need of a lot of data, like A LOT, i imagine.

well, a forge algorithm is already working, both for reverse calculations and for simulations.

some formulas about stats are already known (like this), so we should "only" check the other ones, the effect of base stats on overall build, multipliers for HP/MP/SP/profs, multiplicative additions and so on.

it could somehow be doable, if passing many datas from different pages into one is doable (while an offline tool like excel would require a *ton* of datas to be manually typed, so i wouldn't even consider it)
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post Dec 20 2017, 02:25
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 19 2017, 22:54) *

for sure u can clear PFU fast with 2H ...in fact every style...when u r lv350+ and have all forged L equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ...when u have 70+miti, tons of parry..none accessible to low-lv players. Doing@low diff means less exp and bad drops. It's just an rational advice, but every1 got their preference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I have almost 75% Pmit, 75% MMit and I'm still far from being able to play Power 2H. Maybe when I'll reach 80% in each and with a better parry+evade aswell. So far, to me it looks like Power 2H in PFUDOR is plain impossible below lvl400, maybe even below lvl450.

At least that is my ultimate goal, and I know I will be able to do it one day. Needless to say: it takes Peerless parts all the way.
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post Dec 20 2017, 02:39
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 20 2017, 02:25) *

So far, to me it looks like Power 2H in PFUDOR is plain impossible below lvl400, maybe even below lvl450.

i am curious about this as well, but most of my nice power pieces are level 500, so it will take a while until i can test them
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post Dec 20 2017, 03:03
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 19 2017, 19:25) *
I have almost 75% Pmit, 75% MMit

Is that with 5 power or mixed with plate? How much forging? How much attack speed?
The usual rending-shatter method doesn't work because skills are too slow and the tanking isn't there. 75/75 should be plenty with enough speed.
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post Dec 20 2017, 11:27
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 20 2017, 02:03) *
Is that with 5 power or mixed with plate? How much forging? How much attack speed?
The usual rending-shatter method doesn't work because skills are too slow and the tanking isn't there. 75/75 should be plenty with enough speed.


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post Dec 20 2017, 14:36
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:08
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Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword
Also fleet or shadowdancer?
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:18
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 15:08) *

Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword

FRD or not?

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 15:08) *

Also fleet or shadowdancer?

savage of fleet and plain shadowdancer may perform equally. plain fleet may be a decent filler if you want to try the style. avoid savage of shadowdancer, if you're not seriously going to invest in the build (for how cheap it may be lately)
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post Dec 20 2017, 16:25
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 16:08) *

Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword

if you don't want to use FRD, longsword is faster than mace in arenas but requires a certain minimum in armour quality. mace is slower but takes less investment to get going and is more versatile since its defensive property really shines in IWs. can't comment on estoc yet, but i'll report back once i've done some testing

if you want to use FRD, anything other than mace goes as long as you can get enough attack speed

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post Dec 20 2017, 18:44
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 20 2017, 09:08) *
Which weapon suits light 2H better? Estoc or mace or longsword
Also fleet or shadowdancer?

Depends on how you play and how much damage you have. Against fewer enemies you just beat them to death with stance. Against more, a flowchart may help.

[start round with stance active from previous round]
[sleep/confuse/mace half]
rending blow other half
[shatter strike]
[sleep/confuse/mace first half if not previously done]
kill rending half
kill other half

Remove brackets as necessary depending on weapon, damage and defenses.
It does matter which half you kill first because of the way targeting works. If you use a skill on the first target, it will reach all four targets below; anywhere else and you have to hit the center target to reach two above and two below. Say you're hitting DEFGH and F dies first. You will no longer be able to hit all of DEGH with a skill. Targeting E will miss H, and G will miss D. So you have to figure out which half of the screen you want to start on.

Of course if you're swole you just stance up and beat everything to death like usual, but if you could do that you wouldn't be asking questions here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:25
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I just defeated Invisible Pink Unicorn on IWBTH as lvl189, dualwielding plate was my setup for it, I was originally grinding dualwielding light armor. I'm wondering if normally it's easily done because it was first time ever I did this, only playing since like a week or so. The artifacts in shrine gave me some crap items one of average quality and other one was superior. I don't know how to link my items here, as I'm a complete beginner in HV. On the side note, how do I make my lazy pets bring more ring of blood tokens?


[edit]: no need for size tag.

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post Dec 20 2017, 19:28
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QUOTE(sv24 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:25) *

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Yes, RoB is easy.
Shrining almost always gives crap stuff.
RoB Tokens are found in battle (especially in Arena Clears), pets don't bring them.



Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:38
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:28) *

Yes, RoB is easy.
Shrining almost always gives crap stuff.
RoB Tokens are found in battle (especially in Arena Clears), pets don't bring them.


Fair enough, it's actually like you said. But on that note how do I make my pets do more battles and bring more stuff? My main pet that I have at 270lvl or so and 3 points stacked in the gift factor has been doing absolutely nothing for like 150 levels. I wasted so many credits buying crystals for these useless fucks. What do I do?

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:33) *

Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.


I'm probably less experienced in all this stuff, but so far I've seen no resistance for holy damage on any monsters, if some had any it was almost nothing while other resistances were incomparably higher, but ofcourse with exceptions like that unicorn I managed to kill that was all about holy damage and resist, but weak in dark magics. So with this I conclude that a mix between holy and dark could pretty much faceroll any encounter.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:46
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Dec 20 2017, 18:28) *

Can someone give me a full round-up on 1H Mage?
Like:
- best Element
- needed Gear/Perks/Stats
- best Cloth combos (5 phase, 4 phase+1 elem, etc), and is it possible to do this without forging them
- etc.

- elements. which means no holy/dark
- i'm not sure you need perks. however afaik the best gears are DEA buckler of battlecaster/barrier + elemental-matching waki of nimble/battlecaster (not sure IW is relevant) + phase armors
- afaik 5 phases w/o need for forging is fine enough.
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post Dec 20 2017, 19:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 19:46) *

(not sure IW is relevant)

the only marginally useful IW on the waki would be butcher since it makes counters a wee bit stronger
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post Dec 20 2017, 20:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 20 2017, 18:46) *

- afaik 5 phases w/o need for forging is fine enough.

I played elemental + imperil, which has the added benefit of grinding your depr. proficiency. For that, 4+1 is better than 5 phases, I think.
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