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for sure u can clear PFU fast with 2H ...in fact every style...when u r lv350+ and have all forged L equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ...when u have 70+miti, tons of parry..none accessible to low-lv players. Doing@low diff means less exp and bad drops. It's just an rational advice, but every1 got their preference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

for sure u can clear PFU fast with 2H ...in fact every style...when u r lv350+ and have all forged L equips

well yes, though i haven't had this gear nor this level since the beginning of time. i was able to do PF REs and arenas as soon as i got a leg mace drop around level 335, with a self-drop set of unforged mag shades and leather

2h is not viable (I hate that word) ? Explain please.

The real powers of 2H ╰(*´︶`*)╯ at this level are hard to qualify because almost everyone receives the "change to 1H, my dude. 1H for the win, my bro" advice. This reflects in the shared experience and prices.

Maybe if everyone had the culture of forging every single equipment to lvl5 since early levels, due to not needing bindings, light builds wouldn't be so unpopular? Because Shade Fragments and MGL/HGL are cheaper. To forge a power armor from 0 to 1 in everything maybe costs almost the same as forging a (⌒▽⌒) Shade piece from 0 to 5... It would helps passing through the early stages without feeling a need to improve which results in the heavy advice.

Considering that there are people that didn't make this move to Heavy/1H at all and still survived just fine, I believe saying 2H cannot prevail in the fields of battle to be an overstatement.
We can agree that 1H is the best choice in the current meta though ヽ(>_<ヽ) ―⊂|=0ヘ(^‿^ ) if you think of path of least resistance.

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Believe me, i tried the Shade way, and unfortunately it was less efficient than the Power way.
Tried 2H too, less efficient anyway.

PS: Used all Mag/Leg Shades until level ~300

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Dec 20 2017, 00:31

Why is 2H best paired with light armor? I've been doing 2H+Heavy and I don't plan on switching to anything else, but I'd like to know what I'm missing out on.

well yes, though i haven't had this gear nor this level since the beginning of time. i was able to do PF REs and arenas as soon as i got a leg mace drop around level 335, with a self-drop set of unforged mag shades and leather

I started 2H, and switched to 1H be4 LV150. I need to cure ata moderate frequency to survive in nintendos, and IWBTH kills me. And I have started doing Arena all at PFD since LV225...so 1H is definitely my choice at the moment. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Also thanks for ur experience. I will try 2H in the near future (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Why is 2H best paired with light armor? I've been doing 2H+Heavy and I don't plan on switching to anything else, but I'd like to know what I'm missing out on.

Because just parry alone doesnt keep you alive. So have evade as a second method to prevent taking damage is needed.

Why is 2H best paired with light armor? I've been doing 2H+Heavy and I don't plan on switching to anything else, but I'd like to know what I'm missing out on.

I think it depends. Because 2H counts on evade and parry to survive, low-lv players ppl prefer light armors. High lv players who have good gear can finish monsters in a few shoots, so they would rather choose powers to boost their speed. for the time being, I would choose shades if I go 2H

Why is 2H best paired with light armor?

it's the most tested build and the idea is that light armour's defence makes up for a more offence-oriented weapon. it may work with heavy given the right setup, there just isn't as much info on this style

This post has been edited by sickentide: Dec 20 2017, 00:47

Because just parry alone doesnt keep you alive. So have evade as a second method to prevent taking damage is needed.

If only Shades had a little Piercing mitigation i'd use them far more...

2h is not viable (I hate that word) ? Explain please.

I was saying this in a very general sense - I had looked around at various higher-level users' equipment and generally this was the feel I had gotten from different posts I read throughout the forum.

I suppose it comes down to whatever you think 'success' is within HV. If your goal is just to get credits to download H, then I suppose any style of play is technically viable. Many of the people who bother to respond within this thread and throughout the forum appear to be min/max type of players though, so when I used the word "viable" I assumed I would get a contextual answer that would fall around a 7 on my own internal difficulty scale:

1 - clear all arenas on normal
5 - clear all arenas on hell/nightmare
7 - clear all arenas on IWBTH+
10 - absolutely the best build in terms of % to succeed and the least amount of time to clear all arenas, ROBs, grindfests, and IWs

Edit: I also figured that people would take it to include a general idea of currency/rarity or items. Like they don't expect me to find a Peerless Agile Shade set at my level for a reasonable price.

If this thread was full of people in the very un-established level 1-300 range giving replies on what they thought were pretty good theoretical builds then of course I would use something other than a vague word like 'viable' (like 4-5 years back when a superior eth mace of slaughter used to cost 1.2M credits). But since it's pretty clear after browsing through the forums for a week that the level of literature is very high for HV (though not absolute), it seemed reasonable that I would get an answer in line with what I was intending for when I asked.

This post has been edited by ravenfrost123: Dec 20 2017, 00:54

If only Shades had a little Piercing mitigation i'd use them far more...

It had once iirc with a kevlar suffix.

It had once iirc with a kevlar suffix.

It needs it more in general, like Power has lower Crushing but still has it.

PS: Or at least as a Prefix, not Suffix.

This post has been edited by gianfrix94: Dec 20 2017, 00:58

It had once iirc with a kevlar suffix.

It needs it more in general, like Power has lower Crushing but still has it.

PS: Or at least as a Prefix, not Suffix.

reinforced prefix, actually: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/22631330/d8d9e35cde

but still, i'd pick Savage as my first choice even if Reinforced was still a thing

reinforced prefix, actually: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/22631330/d8d9e35cde

but still, i'd pick Savage as my first choice even if Reinforced was still a thing

Well, it depends.
When you get hit by a Piercing attack as Shade at Pfudor a huge chunk of HP and SP is going to go away, i'm not sure which i would choose.

Well, it depends.
When you get hit by a Piercing attack as Shade at Pfudor a huge chunk of HP and SP is going to go away, i'm not sure which i would choose.

68% evade / 90% parry is the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Why is 2H best paired with light armor? I've been doing 2H+Heavy and I don't plan on switching to anything else, but I'd like to know what I'm missing out on.

Haven't heard that before, but without forges heavy armor just doesn't cut it against the speed boost of pfudor. My power armor only has negligibly more pmit than shade, and the extra damage does not make up for getting hit 20 times every turn. I'd need a swift butcher ethereal of slaughter and full featherweights at the absolute least just to see if it would make any difference at all. If you're going to use plate of protection, you might as well just use FRD with agile estoc and save the money and time.

Also I've only been playing IW so maybe arena is different.

iwbth is a different story. Can easily be stanced down without even looking at the screen. afaikt 2h heavy has no cheap option for pfudor that can't be done better ( = faster and cheaper) by anything else.

when I used the word "viable" I assumed I would get a contextual answer that would fall around a 7 on my own internal difficulty scale:

1 - clear all arenas on normal
5 - clear all arenas on hell/nightmare
7 - clear all arenas on IWBTH+
10 - absolutely the best build in terms of % to succeed and the least amount of time to clear all arenas, ROBs, grindfests, and IWs

Edit: I also figured that people would take it to include a general idea of currency/rarity or items. Like they don't expect me to find a Peerless Agile Shade set at my level for a reasonable price.

iwbth is a joke compared to how things used to be. Probably anything should be able to handle it by using whatever happens to drop and unlocking all of the skills. pfudor requires a harder look if you don't want it to take ages and don't want to die. (Or just use 1h lol.) If anything, the lower difficulties seem much harder than they should be.

Different builds are better at different modes since monster counts are different and non-arena monsters get stronger every round. Then you have to think about profit over time.

68% evade / 90% parry is the way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Well, you know, if you forge everything to max everything works lol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, you know, if you forge everything to max everything works lol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

the funny thing is that i could still improve them, but i'm too cheap to mass-forge DEX and AGI. and i doubt i'd earn so much, btw.