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post Dec 18 2017, 11:58
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Dec 18 2017, 06:46) *

I once upgraded my exquisite armor's physical damage to level 5 with 5 Actuators and other materials but when it reached level 5, the other stats no longer needed actuators to upgrade them.

I'd like to ask if it's the same for other qualities too, such as Magnificent?

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post Dec 18 2017, 12:24
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Dec 18 2017, 17:58) *

Thank you.

I feel so stupid. I'm so stupid.

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post Dec 18 2017, 13:23
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You wasted actuators. These things are to be used on Mag+ equipment. Do yourself a favor and salvage that Exq when you're done with it, so you recover 4 of the 5 actuators.
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post Dec 18 2017, 13:31
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Dec 18 2017, 11:24) *

I'm so stupid.

Nope you are not, just unobservant while facing a textwall and i know for sure, you are nor the first, nether the only one who did miss this information and did ask this question. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Dec 18 2017, 14:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 18 2017, 13:23) *

You wasted actuators. These things are to be used on Mag+ equipment. Do yourself a favor and salvage that Exq when you're done with it, so you recover 4 of the 5 actuators.

You actually recover actuators? Damn!
I thought Catalyst and rare material are not salvageable. Damn!
Brb, gonna pump my middling power pieces with actuators.
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post Dec 18 2017, 16:40
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Ah dunno. I never salvaged forged equipment, so I thought that you recover 90% of everything, minus the catalysts.
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post Dec 18 2017, 17:35
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 18 2017, 15:40) *

Ah dunno. I never salvaged forged equipment, so I thought that you recover 90% of everything, minus the catalysts.

it is. 90%, rounded down. in the particular case of bindings, 0.9 * (forge_level - 5).

fragments and catalysts excluded, since they are explicitly meant as credit sink.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Salvage
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post Dec 18 2017, 18:00
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Since all prefixed rapier can be hollowforged to void damage, does it make demonic and hallow rapiers worth more than ethereal ones?
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post Dec 18 2017, 18:06
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 18 2017, 17:00) *

Since all prefixed rapier can be hollowforged to void damage, does it make demonic and hallow rapiers worth more than ethereal ones?

for 1H in general and for SG runs in particular, yep.
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post Dec 18 2017, 19:50
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for 1H in general and for SG runs in particular, yep.

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post Dec 18 2017, 20:15
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I'd go for holy/dark even for a DW set, because you still can negate their burden+interference entirely with a featherweight shard.
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post Dec 18 2017, 21:41
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 18 2017, 08:00) *

Since all prefixed rapier can be hollowforged to void damage, does it make demonic and hallow rapiers worth more than ethereal ones?


As everyone else said, yes. There is a slight bit of information behind why, if you're curious.

Ethereal weapons have void damage and a void strike. Same with hollowforged weapons. A Hallowed/demonic weapon has a holy/dark strike on top of that.

If you IW10 an ethereal weapon, it will gain a random elemental strike (from among the six elements). That strike could be holy or dark strike. If so, then technically you have a slightly better weapon in many cases for it having started Ethereal instead of hallowed/demonic.

2/3rds of the time it will be some other element, which may not be as ideal for you. Though cold is often pretty attractive, so your mileage may vary. At least 1/6th of the time it will be fire, which is considered the least attractive or popular element to get though. So, in reality, going with a hallowed/demonic rapier bypasses this outcome. The price of amnesia shards and then going through IW10 all over again could be super expensive.

Hollowforge does not remove the burden and interference of your weapon. Hence Decondolite's mention of featherweight enchanting. They're so dirt cheap that you could, if the tiny bit of burden/interference matters to you, enchant your rapier every time you use it, every day forever, and probably never actually notice the price.

So, with luck, an ethereal rapier that you get holy or dark strike from IW10 (on top of the potencies you prefer) is probably the absolute best. Most real-world situations, starting with Holy/Dark and getting hollowforged is a better choice, and it avoids a lot of pocketbook trauma.
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post Dec 19 2017, 00:31
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 18 2017, 19:23) *

You wasted actuators. These things are to be used on Mag+ equipment. Do yourself a favor and salvage that Exq when you're done with it, so you recover 4 of the 5 actuators.

I did. But that was before I discovered better equips that are in auctions. I was also hungry for power at the time since I couldn't even handle Nintendo at the level of 220~something. I will salvage it once I've find a better replacement. But now, I really need better boots to replace the one I've borrowed from ST-Ru since the deadline for it is coming.

Now that I remember it; This isn't the first time I wasted such rare and expensive materials on a shit equip. When I first started playing HV, I used 2 Bindings of Slaughter to raise the Physical Damage stat of my Exquisite weapon to level 7 without knowing how rare it was to get it or how expensive it was to sell it in the WTS thread. I was struggling for credits back then too and couldn't even afford to buy 100 MP and HP potions. I was utterly clueless that players on the forum are giving out several hundreds of those to new players. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Nope you are not, just unobservant while facing a textwall and i know for sure, you are nor the first, nether the only one who did miss this information and did ask this question. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I promise to read more about what I am about to ask next time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 19 2017, 02:24
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2017, 17:35) *
it is. 90%, rounded down. in the particular case of bindings, 0.9 * (forge_level - 5).

fragments and catalysts excluded, since they are explicitly meant as credit sink.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Salvage

Actually it's from this page I knew rare mats are to be consumed. Like some sort of unlocker. I am not really keen to test as I don't have any shade lying around (shade fragment being the cheaper rare mats nowadays). Therefore, if somebody tell me I can get it back, hurraah!!
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post Dec 19 2017, 06:21
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For those that have obtained Daemon Duality, is the effect of DDI immediately noticeable or should I just sell the Hath and sink the proceeds into upgrading my gear?
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post Dec 19 2017, 06:59
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is the effect of DDI immediately noticeable

Melts like butter, for melee at least. Haven't tried mage but I doubt 10% makes a significant difference against bullshitresists. That said, +10% on everything is better than putting the same amount of cash into a single piece of gear. It's only about 8.5 million (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 19 2017, 07:21
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At least 1/6th of the time it will be fire, which is considered the least attractive or popular element to get though.

I've been wondering if fire strike is really the worst element on 1H. The shock shield it pairs with is worthless, but it also has no negative effect either. Whereas the cold and wind shields, while they have an excellent survival effect, also as a side effect have a very very tiny negative effect on your clear times with 1H.

To me fire strike is definitely the worst, but I'm weird and also don't mind swift strike on 1H.
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post Dec 19 2017, 07:32
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Dec 18 2017, 20:59) *

Melts like butter, for melee at least. Haven't tried mage but I doubt 10% makes a significant difference against bullshitresists. That said, +10% on everything is better than putting the same amount of cash into a single piece of gear. It's only about 8.5 million (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


That's good to know - so true, can't do too much with 8.5M anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'll get DDI and sell the rest before the massive depreciation of Hath occurs soon after the New Year's day.
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post Dec 19 2017, 09:53
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Note: the 10% is applied only in battle, not on the base damage displayed in the stats of your character.
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post Dec 19 2017, 11:13
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Dec 18 2017, 23:53) *

Note: the 10% is applied only in battle, not on the base damage displayed in the stats of your character.


Yes, I have noticed that - there was no change to the stats and yet the battle did speed up a bit - thanks.
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