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post Dec 16 2017, 13:57
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QUOTE(rfgdxm @ Dec 16 2017, 07:20) *

It's a web game on dmm.com (dmm.com/netgame/feature/kancolle.html). It's about naval combat starring a bunch of WW2 ships represented by cute girls. No adult content, but it has a multitude of female characters and seems to have caught the imaginations of a large community of doujin artists just as Touhou did.

in short, "boats"
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post Dec 16 2017, 14:00
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Dec 16 2017, 09:57) *

in short, "boats"

nice boat (*ノ▽ノ) though
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post Dec 16 2017, 14:21
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yep, they are rendered quite nice. just thinking about Atago, for example.

btw, may i ask all of you to continue speaking about this here?

thank you for you cooperation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 16 2017, 21:22
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Guys, at what powerlevel are monsters supposed to start bringing High Grade stuff?
PL 400? PL 500?
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post Dec 16 2017, 21:41
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500+ But the chance is very, very, very, low.
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post Dec 17 2017, 02:19
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Can I sell those pony figurines after I learn ofc .~.?
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post Dec 17 2017, 02:23
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Of course you can sell them. There is nothing that woukd hinder you to. But if you want to keep the OFC, you shouldnt sell them.
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post Dec 17 2017, 02:28
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 17 2017, 08:23) *

Of course you can sell them. There is nothing that woukd hinder you to. But if you want to keep the OFC, you shouldnt sell them.


I thought I could still be able to use ofc after selling them, thank you ;w;
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post Dec 17 2017, 02:38
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QUOTE(asdfjkl622 @ Dec 17 2017, 02:28) *
I thought I could still be able to use ofc after selling them, thank you ;w;

Learn to use OFC effectively and you will see pony purchase is the best big purchase (after IA1)!
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post Dec 17 2017, 04:47
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Mage. STR 0 or 300
0 I understand, But I do not know why 300.
What is the reason?

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post Dec 17 2017, 05:00
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QUOTE(mopme @ Dec 17 2017, 03:47) *

Mage. STR 0 or 300
0 I understand, But I do not know why 300.
What is the reason?

Except from a few more spirit points there is no benefit.
Unless you are playing a 1H Mage (still doubt this) in which case you could increase your counter chance a bit. Not sure if a 1H Mage actually would care about counter chance.

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post Dec 17 2017, 09:01
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Dec 17 2017, 04:00) *

Unless you are playing a 1H Mage (still doubt this) in which case you could increase your counter chance a bit. Not sure if a 1H Mage actually would care about counter chance.


When I played 1h mage long ago, IIRC counter did help a bit, but probably mainly parry helped, so that means DEX is important. Parry builds up overcharge pips, doesn't it? That would bring the OFC into play.


Edit: just checked and tested

- counter is very weak 1496 slashing damage vs. 32770 cold damage from freeze 50% resisted
- OC pips build up, OFC works in 1h mage. I can use 1 blast every 5 rounds or so
- STR helps to give OFC power. With low strength OFC does less damage

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post Dec 17 2017, 09:18
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QUOTE(mopme @ Dec 16 2017, 18:47) *

Mage. STR 0 or 300
0 I understand, But I do not know why 300.
What is the reason?


Mostly for spirit. Which only matters to a mage if you're using Spirit Shield. It doesn't help with Spark of Life.

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 16 2017, 23:01) *

When I played 1h mage long ago, IIRC counter did help a bit, but probably mainly parry helped, so that means DEX is important. Parry builds up overcharge pips, doesn't it? That would bring the OFC into play.
Edit: just checked

- counter is very weak 1496 slashing damage vs. 32770 cold damage from freeze 50% resisted
- OC pips build up, OFC works in 1h mage


If you're doing a 1h mage build, Spirit Stance might still be a better use of OC pips. Reduce mana costs while in Spirit Stance (and your weak counters would be almost 3k damage!)

I think 1h mage is mostly banking on the extra durability of a shield rather than supplementing their spells with OFC. Which, if memory serves, does damage on ADB, not your MDB. So it wouldn't be a terribly impressive OFC for the amount of OC it consumes.
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post Dec 17 2017, 09:24
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Dec 17 2017, 08:18) *

Which only matters to a mage if you're using Spirit Shield

You are right that extra spirit from STR isn't needed for Spark-Of-Life. But what you say in this quote here is wrong, it has no use for mages what so ever. More STR gives no benefits, but does no harm either.

Edit: Check this insightful post by sickentide for more details.

QUOTE(Cryosite @ Dec 17 2017, 08:18) *

I think 1h mage is mostly banking on the extra durability of a shield rather than supplementing their spells with OFC. Which, if memory serves, does damage on ADB, not your MDB. So it wouldn't be a terribly impressive OFC for the amount of OC it consumes.

True. I played one arena, and that's exactly what I see. By the way, with full forged phases, this is quite a fun style!

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post Dec 17 2017, 13:26
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may i ask which is better to forge first, shield or armor?
i still had to use protection scroll and a bunch of cure around the last rounds of IW, especially 90+ rounds IW.
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post Dec 17 2017, 13:29
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QUOTE(ch364 @ Dec 17 2017, 12:26) *

may i ask which is better to forge first, shield or armor?
i still had to use protection scroll and a bunch of cure around the last rounds of IW, especially 90+ rounds IW.


Depends on how good the shield is. But a good shield should be forged first. The higher block, the better. Also STR, DEX and END can be forged.
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post Dec 17 2017, 13:37
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 17 2017, 12:29) *

Depends on how good the shield is. But a good shield should be forged first. The higher block, the better. Also STR, DEX and END can be forged.

pmi and mmi till the first five levels. same goes for crush/slash/piercing if present.
but yep, the only stats worth spending some credits/bindings are block and PABs
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post Dec 17 2017, 13:42
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 17 2017, 13:29) *

Depends on how good the shield is. But a good shield should be forged first. The higher block, the better. Also STR, DEX and END can be forged.

here's my shield


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 17 2017, 13:37) *

pmi and mmi till the first five levels. same goes for crush/slash/piercing if present.
but yep, the only stats worth spending some credits/bindings are block and PABs


i see... but what about PABs on armors? which stats that get higher points when forged between shield and armors?
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post Dec 17 2017, 13:48
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QUOTE(ch364 @ Dec 17 2017, 19:42) *

here's my shield
i see... but what about PABs on armors? which stats that get higher points when forged between shield and armors?


I think your Shields are already enough forged. That's my Set and with it I can already clear PFUDOR Fest without Scrolls, in my last Try in the last Easter even without triggering Spark of Life.

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
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post Dec 17 2017, 14:06
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Dec 17 2017, 13:48) *

I think your Shields are already enough forged. That's my Set and with it I can already clear PFUDOR Fest without Scrolls, in my last Try in the last Easter even without triggering Spark of Life.

Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Amber Force Shield of Warding
Magnificent Power Helmet of Slaughter
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wait, really? my spark got harrassed like crazy in just around 350 rounds...
ah for the record, my IAs were protection and spark. i kinda dislike spirit shield
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