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Scremaz, DJNoni, reality_marble, thanks, now i get it

It is a matter of how much you need to sacrifice to pass your target.

as far as i understood, it's more a matter of reaching a certain prof factor first, and worrying about EDB later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

as far as i understood, it's more a matter of reaching a certain prof factor first, and worrying about EDB later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yes, but we will have to lose something in 'potential' to reach there. (=`ω´=) Thus, I said sacrifice.

I agree that it would be better to calculate and pass the factor first. Getting a Staff, the Perk, training your proff, then finding you bought a 5% prof Shoe but would need a 50% prof Shoe because you didn't calculated the prof your Staff + Shoe would be with a max level of forging would be kinda sad... (￣ω￣; )

This post has been edited by reality_marble: Dec 15 2017, 14:16

as far as i understood, it's more a matter of reaching a certain prof factor first, and worrying about EDB later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Not anymore since prof can now range from 0 to your level * 1.2.
There is no things like max prof.
You can have 0.68 today and get 0.72 3 weeks from now.

It's better to get a non-optimal prof factor first and get to the 0.65-0.7 range later.
Basically shoes or GTFO.

I agree that it would be better to calculate and pass the factor first. Getting a Staff, the Perk, training your proff, then finding you bought a 5% prof Shoe but would need a 50% prof Shoe because you didn't calculated the prof your Staff + Shoe would be with a max level would be kinda sad... (￣ω￣; )

speaking of which, personally i'd do the preliminary math with a mid level of forging. or mid-high, but not the maximum possible. both to do micro-adjustments when needed and because the last 25 levels of forging have a very bad ROI (all those credits add a +8% on the base value, afterall)

Not anymore since prof can now range from 0 to your level * 1.2.
There is no things like max prof.
You can have 0.68 today and get 0.72 3 weeks from now.

My prof/lvl ratio has been ( ￣ー￣)φ__ ~1.080-1.087 since ~40 lvls ago. Lvl 2 at assimilator. Of course, I would probably still pass the target with a Shoe. A 42%prof staff and -21%prof mag gloves forged to ~35 each is giving me 0,73 factor with the perk. But a 50% Shoes would still give me less prof than my -21% Gloves, so calculating to see what fits you current options is good.

Agree that Shoes > all. But another slot instead of Shoes might allow someone to play for some nice time until he can get the perk. Specially as the perk costs ~4.25M credits.
At this point it still is a lot of money for me __〆(￣ー￣ ) and for the people that don't play a lot it might be some months of work.

16M according to cost calculator (a lot was rounded up and overestimated, could be lower if you buy things cheap)
5M phazon
1.6M each for INT and WIS
1.3M for spell damage
1.3M for resist
1.5M for evade
2M for physical mitigation
1.4M for magical mitigation

So, for end-game gear, 16M is the cost you might have to spend anyway... I guess the base can go that much.

Being a cheap and poor doge, I only forge my spell damage and evade to whatever materials I have. I clear DwD in around 15 min.
Dunno, I don't burn, I coolly f r e e z e

Cold: SG3 PF is 12-13min with forge EDB to 50 on all phases, plus one radiant forged to 50 on MDB as well. Justifiable? Well, if you have the credits why not?

Even on nintendo, I still need 30 minutes to finish DWD. So full forge will be able to clear it in 12-13 minutes? Man..., where did you get all those moaney?

But another slot instead of Shoes might allow someone to play for some nice time until he can get the perk. Specially as the perk costs ~4.25M credits.
At this point it still is a lot of money

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Man..., where did you get all those moaney?

Didn't Bass-Ara-ara~ Nakkid says he could make ~300k/day with arena? ヾ( `ー´)シ Do all arena my man

Well, you do counter three enemies per attack.

Sure, if your main hit crits, it'll likely outdamage your counters. But overall, the counters still contribute a significant amount of damage.

Just asking. But did you also thought about the stun? Every monster that is stunned dont attack, a monster that doesnt attack cant provoce a counter, and cant get any damage by it. Therefore my argument still stand. And i never said they dont do damage, significant or not. But i do most of my damage not with counters.

void strike for staff makes sense?

void strike for staff makes sense?

None what so ever

None what so ever

That is something that always confuse me. Why it just dont make any sense to fully IW a stuff. I mean, there is no benefit at all and this just feels weird. At least to me.

That is something that always confuse me. Why it just dont make any sense to fully IW a stuff. I mean, there is no benefit at all and this just feels weird. At least to me.

void strike is useless for mages, since it would be used only in melee-ish attacks. and an eventual proper strike on an Ethereal staff would still be useless because it wouldn't bring any EDB.
add this with the not-so-dead-yet chance of having an useful IW10 potency, the vast majority of the mages prefer to leave IW unfinished.

void strike is useless for mages, since it would be used only in melee-ish attacks. and an eventual proper strike on an Ethereal staff would still be useless because it wouldn't bring any EDB.
add this with the not-so-dead-yet chance of having an useful IW10 potency, the vast majority of the mages prefer to leave IW unfinished.

Why are you write this with a quote from me as if i had something that would in any way disagree to what you did wrote here? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I know all this and my guess would be, that all mages would prefer the strike to be replaced by one of the normal Potencies.

As mage is already very strong hopefully (＠＾◡＾) 10B will not add anything and just leave it as is to troll the people who think leaving it at IW9 will be useful in the future.

Talking about IW, for a Mace overpower is silly right?
Would FatButt (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄) be the go-to potencies? Or Swift Strike + Fat/But to Stun them all faster?

Talking about IW, for a Mace overpower is silly right?

Yup.

Talking about IW, for a Mace overpower is silly right?

a high amount, yep. but if a single level had to appear at the end, i wouldn't bother reforge it.

One reason to finish the IW of a staff: having a cool name for it.
And it's mandatory to be cool.

In what order do sol and ss work?? I set both of them IA and sometimes died even though had enough sp:(