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Dec 1 2017, 21:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 1 2017, 20:32)  Does this require a script (e.g. Item Manager or similar) or is it part of the in-built functionality?
hvtoolbox will add this function, among with many other ones. but it's just another safety layer. being careful on bazaar and shrine should still be fine enough [edit]: oh, you can also try this one: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4940087it only hides figurines and nothing else. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 1 2017, 21:44
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Dec 2 2017, 04:47
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clarkiest
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Hey dude,
In general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?
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Dec 2 2017, 05:31
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RoadShoe
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I changed my password and it put my account on Lockdown for 24 hours.
IE - No Bazaar, no access to HatH, etc. But... it allows me to play.
Now my question is.....
If I clear the arenas, will it still give me my tokens, etc.? Or do they all flutter away to where ever Pinkie Pie happens to be frolicking?
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Dec 2 2017, 06:00
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 1 2017, 21:47)  Hey dude,
In general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?
Just did some poking myself, and most always the upgrading to 5 will be cheaper. Upgrading the first 5 levels in the forge will see an 8% return on increases to that stat.
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Dec 2 2017, 06:22
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Dec 2 2017, 06:00)  Just did some poking myself, and most always the upgrading to 5 will be cheaper. Upgrading the first 5 levels in the forge will see an 8% return on increases to that stat.
If 5 forge equal to 8% stat increase, I suppose you have to upgrade weapon and all five piece of armor to get overal 8% increase. For phase+staff set, it will equal to somewhere around 5M (damn expensive phazon). Cotton will make it a bit cheaper, I guess, but the cost will still be at around 5M. a bit over 8M for a 10% damage increase look intimidating at first. But if you have more than one set, or even plan to replace your already cool piece of armor with even cooler one (which may have yet to appear), then DD1 would be a great investment. Thanks for confirming that first level of DD is worthwhile.
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Dec 2 2017, 07:02
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 1 2017, 23:22)  If 5 forge equal to 8% stat increase, I suppose you have to upgrade weapon and all five piece of armor to get overal 8% increase. For phase+staff set, it will equal to somewhere around 5M (damn expensive phazon). Cotton will make it a bit cheaper, I guess, but the cost will still be at around 5M.
a bit over 8M for a 10% damage increase look intimidating at first. But if you have more than one set, or even plan to replace your already cool piece of armor with even cooler one (which may have yet to appear), then DD1 would be a great investment. Thanks for confirming that first level of DD is worthwhile.
Yeah, by my understanding, you're absolutely right that a DD 1 would be the easier economic choice for maging, it is definitely a better long-term investment unless you had a couple of great legendaries/peerless that you would not replace anytime soon.
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Dec 2 2017, 08:59
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BlueWaterSplash
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Wow DJNoni has 3 dark staffs, he is like Roronoa Zoro. I don't know much about how to fight with wooden stick. The new Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction is better than the old one? And Spellweaver is better than Archmage? QUOTE(sickentide) before 0.82, quality tier was calculated from the stats, so it was possible to have a legendary where some stats are very low. since 0.82, quality tier is rolled first and then the stats are rolled in that tier's range, so all stats on a legendary are guaranteed a certain minimum Ah no wonder, thanks. Some parts of the wiki are outdated and still mention the old way, but I knew it had to be wrong. If someone fixes it, I'd still request that the old way be mentioned because it's pretty cool. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) This post has been edited by BlueWaterSplash: Dec 2 2017, 10:02
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Dec 2 2017, 10:45
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Noni
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 07:59)  Wow DJNoni has 3 dark staffs, he is like Roronoa Zoro. I don't know much about how to fight with wooden stick. The new Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction is better than the old one? And Spellweaver is better than Archmage?
Yep. I'm giving bad example. (do as I say, don't do as I do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Destructionmy starting staff. Always meant to be temporary. Still, pretty good staff. This was supposed to be my end-game staff: Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction Bought is very very expensive. At the moment, with cloth 1/3 way forged, this gets me to round 700 of PFFest before dying. The dying can be solved by changing Achmage into Spellweaver. EDB is near peerless. MDB is just below 50%. Then this came up in auction. It was going to sell for a couple of m's. Annoying, because I spent way more on my staff. I couldn't bear seeing it go for under 10m so that's what I bid. And then I won. Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of DestructionIt's better than my end-game staff, because MDB is (slightly) more important than EDB. MDB is quite close to peerless, EDB is well below 50%. I believe this one will perform better in PFfest, because of more damage. And I went for spell4 because that helps not dying in PFfest. So now I'm looking for a buyer for the first LDWD. Or else it will be savaged. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Nah, who gives a damn, it's just a game. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dec 2 2017, 11:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 2 2017, 03:47)  in general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?
Roughly 13% for adb/mdb. 8% for all the rest. QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 07:59) Ah no wonder, thanks. Some parts of the wiki are outdated and still mention the old way, but I knew it had to be wrong. If someone fixes it, I'd still request that the old way be mentioned because it's pretty cool. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) as a general suggestion, when you identify a page which needs a bit of affection, attach a link, please. Higher chances for someone to take care of it
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Dec 2 2017, 11:23
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Dec 2 2017, 04:31)  If I clear the arenas, will it still give me my tokens, etc.?
Iirc yes it does.
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Dec 2 2017, 11:47
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Paruri
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 2 2017, 17:45) 
When salvaging, upgraded item gives more mat?? or does it give more credits in bazar?? This post has been edited by paruri: Dec 2 2017, 11:47
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Dec 2 2017, 11:53
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Piscolabis
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QUOTE(paruri @ Dec 2 2017, 10:47)  When salvaging, upgraded item gives more mat?? or does it give more credits in bazar??
Salvaging gives 90%(rounded down) of the mats back, except for catalysts which you wont get back.
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Dec 2 2017, 12:18
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BlueWaterSplash
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QUOTE(Scremaz) Roughly 13% for adb/mdb. 8% for all the rest. as a general suggestion, when you identify a page which needs a bit of affection, attach a link, please. Higher chances for someone to take care of it I thought it was 11% damage and 8% for the rest. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes#QualityIt should be noted that stats generate prefixes, not the other way around (with the exception of Peerless). The quality prefix is based on the average value of all the stats relative to their possible maximum.QUOTE(DJNoni) This was supposed to be my end-game staff: Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction Bought is very very expensive. At the moment, with cloth 1/3 way forged, this gets me to round 700 of PFFest before dying. The dying can be solved by changing Achmage into Spellweaver. EDB is near peerless. MDB is just below 50%. Then Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction came up in auction. It was going to sell for a couple of m's. Annoying, because I spent way more on my staff. I couldn't bear seeing it go for under 10m so that's what I bid. It's better than my end-game staff, because MDB is (slightly) more important than EDB. MDB is quite close to peerless, EDB is well below 50%. I believe this one will perform better in PFfest, because of more damage. And I went for spell4 because that helps not dying in PFfest. So now I'm looking for a buyer for the first LDWD. Or else it will be savaged.(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Makes sense, thanks for the breakdown. Even though I don't know much, I had considered buying it when you first made your WTS, but then I saw level 500. At the slow rate I am leveling, there is no guarantee I will ever reach level 400. Also I don't have enough credits, but I recently discovered the power of the dark star which could provide the black money for that demon staff to survive. I'm not sure you overpaid too horribly for your first staff. If I recall from when you obtained it earlier, it was close to 50m, but the previous owner bought it from auction for 10m (just like your new one) then pumped 25m of upgrades (according to you) into it, plus a "perfect" IW.
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Dec 2 2017, 12:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 11:18)  I thought it was 11% damage and 8% for the rest.
ah, yes, 11.3, something like that. i keep forgetting that 1. my bad. QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 11:18)  uhu. fixing it soon
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Dec 2 2017, 23:56
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ChaosOmegaZero
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Hi there, I've attached my stats page, I really would like to know what I should be doing right now, trying to clear the later arena's seem to be taking longer than when I was doing two handed (Switched to Rapier + Shield). Is there something I should be investing in? I'm going to switch to mage once I reach around 310 and find the right equipment. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 3 2017, 00:45
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Dec 3 2017, 00:10
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Noni
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QUOTE(ChaosOmegaZero @ Dec 2 2017, 22:56)  Hi there, I've attached my stats page,
I really would like to know what I should be doing right now, trying to clear the later arena's seem to be taking longer than when I was doing two handed (Switched to Rapier + Shield). Is there something I should be investing in? I'm going to switch to mage once I reach around 310 and find the right equipment. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
At your level, monsters are getting tough. That's what you are experiencing, probably. Rapier & shield will prevent you from dying. Then you need to go power and/or Slaughter to make speed again. mag/leg rapier of slaughter. Power armors. Perhaps even Power of Slaughter (expensive!). And IW your rapier to 10 for extra strike and thus extra damange. By the way, I don't see any pics or links attached...
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Dec 3 2017, 00:48
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ChaosOmegaZero @ Dec 2 2017, 23:30)  You are correct, not sure why it didn't attach the screen
fixed. you correctly attached the image to the post, just didn't publish it. when you upload the file, you also need to either attach to the post or embed it. the first option is recommended to avoid horizontal scrolling.
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Dec 3 2017, 01:24
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(ChaosOmegaZero @ Dec 2 2017, 17:30)  Weapon and shield upgrade would be on the top of the list for me. You can check the Free Shop when it is back open in a couple days, though I'm gonna plug decondelite's store- he has a lot of good stuff for players right around your level, and at really reasonable prices too. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=201455His shop should be able to hook you up with quite a few upgrades.
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