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post Dec 1 2017, 10:18
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Does the spell on Innate Arcana use one turn or it's the same as potion in this aspect?

Also I am thinking about getting the OFC the cannon.
Does it cost the 21 collectables or it only require me to own and I can resell them to others (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Nah..it's a big deal of money. just want to ensure
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post Dec 1 2017, 11:09
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 1 2017, 09:18) *

Does the spell on Innate Arcana use one turn or it's the same as potion in this aspect?


Every spell you put into a auto cast slot is active as long as you have at least 10% of your mana. When it fall below it is inactive but will be active again after you reached 25% mana.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 1 2017, 09:18) *

Also I am thinking about getting the OFC the cannon.
Does it cost the 21 collectables or it only require me to own and I can resell them to others (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Nah..it's a big deal of money. just want to ensure


You need 21 different my little pony figurines for the OFC to be active. When you sell them, it will be inactive again. TBH i never did buy a single figurine.
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post Dec 1 2017, 13:26
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Dec 1 2017, 00:18) *

Does the spell on Innate Arcana use one turn or it's the same as potion in this aspect?

Also I am thinking about getting the OFC the cannon.
Does it cost the 21 collectables or it only require me to own and I can resell them to others (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Nah..it's a big deal of money. just want to ensure


Like a potion. It doesn't give your opponents a bunch of free attacks against you. That's one of the less talked about advantages of IA.

OFC is pretty worth the price. It seems expensive, but it is only a one-time expense. OFC is not a "all of a sudden I win the game" button, but it is a very handy option to have in your arensal as a melee.
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post Dec 1 2017, 13:43
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Dec 1 2017, 12:26) *

OFC is pretty worth the price. It seems expensive, but it is only a one-time expense. OFC is not a "all of a sudden I win the game" button, but it is a very handy option to have in your arensal as a melee.

aye. nowadays it's worth roughly 500k, but among other things it allows you to raise your difficulty, so we can say it has quite the high ROI.

just be careful abount not messing up with your ponies and always keep 21 different ones. you may eventually opt to hide them from the item list, btw.
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post Dec 1 2017, 19:57
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 30 2017, 20:57) *

Auction it, set the min bid to about 50m. If no one buys, decide if you're willing to let it go for less and set the min bid appropriately the following week.

If still no takers, salvage it then. No sense letting it go for way less than the forge cost.



QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 1 2017, 01:08) *

Try to auction with min bid set as (value of salvage materials + 3-4M) * 1.1
And see how it goes.
A shop may even be better but selling in shops is pretty difficult and the more time you wait the less you will get from the materials.


Good advice. But I think I will salvage anyways... Market is so biased towards near-perfect gear!
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post Dec 1 2017, 20:52
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 1 2017, 18:57) *
Good advice. But I think I will salvage anyways... Market is so biased towards near-perfect gear!


And it makes cheapskates like Scremaz and me quite happy.
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post Dec 1 2017, 21:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 1 2017, 22:43) *

just be careful abount not messing up with your ponies and always keep 21 different ones. you may eventually opt to hide them from the item list, btw.


Does this require a script (e.g. Item Manager or similar) or is it part of the in-built functionality?
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post Dec 1 2017, 21:43
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QUOTE(Zomnus @ Dec 1 2017, 20:32) *

Does this require a script (e.g. Item Manager or similar) or is it part of the in-built functionality?

hvtoolbox will add this function, among with many other ones. but it's just another safety layer. being careful on bazaar and shrine should still be fine enough

[edit]: oh, you can also try this one: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4940087
it only hides figurines and nothing else.

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post Dec 2 2017, 04:47
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Hey dude,

In general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?
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post Dec 2 2017, 05:31
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I changed my password and it put my account on Lockdown for 24 hours.

IE - No Bazaar, no access to HatH, etc.
But... it allows me to play.

Now my question is.....

If I clear the arenas, will it still give me my tokens, etc.?
Or do they all flutter away to where ever Pinkie Pie happens to be frolicking?
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post Dec 2 2017, 06:00
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 1 2017, 21:47) *

Hey dude,

In general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?


Just did some poking myself, and most always the upgrading to 5 will be cheaper. Upgrading the first 5 levels in the forge will see an 8% return on increases to that stat.
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post Dec 2 2017, 06:22
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Dec 2 2017, 06:00) *
Just did some poking myself, and most always the upgrading to 5 will be cheaper. Upgrading the first 5 levels in the forge will see an 8% return on increases to that stat.

If 5 forge equal to 8% stat increase, I suppose you have to upgrade weapon and all five piece of armor to get overal 8% increase. For phase+staff set, it will equal to somewhere around 5M (damn expensive phazon). Cotton will make it a bit cheaper, I guess, but the cost will still be at around 5M.

a bit over 8M for a 10% damage increase look intimidating at first. But if you have more than one set, or even plan to replace your already cool piece of armor with even cooler one (which may have yet to appear), then DD1 would be a great investment. Thanks for confirming that first level of DD is worthwhile.
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post Dec 2 2017, 07:02
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 1 2017, 23:22) *

If 5 forge equal to 8% stat increase, I suppose you have to upgrade weapon and all five piece of armor to get overal 8% increase. For phase+staff set, it will equal to somewhere around 5M (damn expensive phazon). Cotton will make it a bit cheaper, I guess, but the cost will still be at around 5M.

a bit over 8M for a 10% damage increase look intimidating at first. But if you have more than one set, or even plan to replace your already cool piece of armor with even cooler one (which may have yet to appear), then DD1 would be a great investment. Thanks for confirming that first level of DD is worthwhile.


Yeah, by my understanding, you're absolutely right that a DD 1 would be the easier economic choice for maging, it is definitely a better long-term investment unless you had a couple of great legendaries/peerless that you would not replace anytime soon.
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post Dec 2 2017, 08:59
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Wow DJNoni has 3 dark staffs, he is like Roronoa Zoro. I don't know much about how to fight with wooden stick. The new Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction is better than the old one? And Spellweaver is better than Archmage?

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Ah no wonder, thanks. Some parts of the wiki are outdated and still mention the old way, but I knew it had to be wrong. If someone fixes it, I'd still request that the old way be mentioned because it's pretty cool. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

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post Dec 2 2017, 10:45
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 07:59) *

Wow DJNoni has 3 dark staffs, he is like Roronoa Zoro. I don't know much about how to fight with wooden stick. The new Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction is better than the old one? And Spellweaver is better than Archmage?


Yep. I'm giving bad example. (do as I say, don't do as I do (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

Legendary Demonic Katalox Staff of Destruction
my starting staff. Always meant to be temporary. Still, pretty good staff.

This was supposed to be my end-game staff:
Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction
Bought is very very expensive. At the moment, with cloth 1/3 way forged, this gets me to round 700 of PFFest before dying. The dying can be solved by changing Achmage into Spellweaver. EDB is near peerless. MDB is just below 50%.

Then this came up in auction. It was going to sell for a couple of m's. Annoying, because I spent way more on my staff. I couldn't bear seeing it go for under 10m so that's what I bid. And then I won.
Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction
It's better than my end-game staff, because MDB is (slightly) more important than EDB. MDB is quite close to peerless, EDB is well below 50%. I believe this one will perform better in PFfest, because of more damage. And I went for spell4 because that helps not dying in PFfest.

So now I'm looking for a buyer for the first LDWD. Or else it will be savaged. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Nah, who gives a damn, it's just a game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 2 2017, 11:21
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Dec 2 2017, 03:47) *

in general, how many percent a stat improves after upgrading it the first five times? Is it cheaper than daemon duality, or is it not?

Roughly 13% for adb/mdb. 8% for all the rest.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 2 2017, 07:59)

Ah no wonder, thanks. Some parts of the wiki are outdated and still mention the old way, but I knew it had to be wrong. If someone fixes it, I'd still request that the old way be mentioned because it's pretty cool. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

as a general suggestion, when you identify a page which needs a bit of affection, attach a link, please. Higher chances for someone to take care of it
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post Dec 2 2017, 11:23
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Dec 2 2017, 04:31) *

If I clear the arenas, will it still give me my tokens, etc.?


Iirc yes it does.
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post Dec 2 2017, 11:47
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Dec 2 2017, 17:45) *




When salvaging, upgraded item gives more mat?? or does it give more credits in bazar??

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post Dec 2 2017, 11:53
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QUOTE(paruri @ Dec 2 2017, 10:47) *

When salvaging, upgraded item gives more mat?? or does it give more credits in bazar??


Salvaging gives 90%(rounded down) of the mats back, except for catalysts which you wont get back.
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post Dec 2 2017, 12:18
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Roughly 13% for adb/mdb. 8% for all the rest.
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I thought it was 11% damage and 8% for the rest.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes#Quality

It should be noted that stats generate prefixes, not the other way around (with the exception of Peerless). The quality prefix is based on the average value of all the stats relative to their possible maximum.

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This was supposed to be my end-game staff: Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction
Bought is very very expensive. At the moment, with cloth 1/3 way forged, this gets me to round 700 of PFFest before dying. The dying can be solved by changing Achmage into Spellweaver. EDB is near peerless. MDB is just below 50%.

Then Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction came up in auction. It was going to sell for a couple of m's. Annoying, because I spent way more on my staff. I couldn't bear seeing it go for under 10m so that's what I bid.

It's better than my end-game staff, because MDB is (slightly) more important than EDB. MDB is quite close to peerless, EDB is well below 50%. I believe this one will perform better in PFfest, because of more damage. And I went for spell4 because that helps not dying in PFfest.

So now I'm looking for a buyer for the first LDWD. Or else it will be savaged.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Makes sense, thanks for the breakdown. Even though I don't know much, I had considered buying it when you first made your WTS, but then I saw level 500. At the slow rate I am leveling, there is no guarantee I will ever reach level 400. Also I don't have enough credits, but I recently discovered the power of the dark star which could provide the black money for that demon staff to survive.

I'm not sure you overpaid too horribly for your first staff. If I recall from when you obtained it earlier, it was close to 50m, but the previous owner bought it from auction for 10m (just like your new one) then pumped 25m of upgrades (according to you) into it, plus a "perfect" IW.

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