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Nov 28 2017, 23:42
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Nov 28 2017, 19:11)  Can Anyone give me advice on which mode of which difficulty I should focus on in order to get some gear, especially good raper of balance/slaughter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) or first lv up? Play on highgest difficults you can manages. If can finish a randoms encounter on PFUDOR, do its (´ ∀ ` *). If u ded more than enough then do RE on IWBTH and so this approach goes If you can finish first arena on PFUDOR (งಠ_ಠ)ง σ( •̀ ω •́ σ) but can't finish the second and forwards, then do first on PFUDOR and rest on a lower (งಠ_ಠ)ง σ( •̀ ω •́ σ) hardness and so goes on, slowly growings up so you finish all arens on P-FUUU-DOOR About equip ( ´-ω・)︻┻┳══━一 chance of finding goods'loot yourself is dim better try to buy it so check shoppes on WTS if has no full superiors armor at leasts, the bazaar has plenty at your lvl if you keep looking used to even find some of powers but don't follow power bandwagons too muchs. if you keep getting kill then better to has exquisite plate than sup power. at high lvl best defends is attack and kill enemy in more speed. At your lvl best defends is better defends (; ̄Д ̄)also reminds to always keep some credits on piggy bank ヽ( ˋ(00)´ )ノ for a bit over 200k you can buy enough hath to buy innates arcans 1, which is super importants because of sparky of life This post has been edited by reality_marble: Nov 28 2017, 23:44
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Nov 28 2017, 23:45
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Piscolabis
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Nov 28 2017, 22:11)  Hi, I am a beginner and I only have been playing for roughly a week. I am trying to get some good gear, yet I don't have the gear support to complete high difficulties. PFUDOR is barely possible for me to complete (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) , and too many enemies of IWBTH in Arena is also hard. Can Anyone give me advice on which mode of which difficulty I should focus on in order to get some gear, especially good raper of balance/slaughter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) or first lv up? Do the highest difficulty that you can without dying. At your level I was running mostly between hell and nintendo, except random encounters which I did at IWBTH/PFUDOR. Do note that random encounters give a lot of exp and are one round only, so ideally you want to do them at PFUDOR if you can manage it.
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Nov 29 2017, 01:10
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reality_marble
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( ˘_˘ ) hmm... ( ̄∀ ̄) so the 4% loss of counter-resists if I has pen4 insteads of pen5 means that if I would do 100k damages I will do 96k damages basicals?
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Nov 29 2017, 01:12
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asakalika
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I want to ask about ADB. Keep looking for any information around, but cannot find anything that defines the word.
For example, how it is calculated, or it is one of the value shown?
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Nov 29 2017, 01:23
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sickentide
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QUOTE(asakalika @ Nov 29 2017, 01:12)  For example, how it is calculated, or it is one of the value shown?
it is shown on weapons in the style of "+1808 Void Damage" and on armour like "Attack Damage +393.24" This post has been edited by sickentide: Nov 29 2017, 01:24
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Nov 29 2017, 01:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(asakalika @ Nov 29 2017, 00:12)  I want to ask about ADB. Keep looking for any information around, but cannot find anything that defines the word.
For example, how it is calculated, or it is one of the value shown?
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronymsfor a single piece of gear it's shown on the "damage" section, on the higher part of the popup for the whole build it's calculated this way, starting from ADB, STR, DEX and abilities: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Base_Damage
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Nov 29 2017, 01:32
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(asakalika @ Nov 28 2017, 21:12)  I want to ask about ADB.Keep looking for any information around, but cannot find anything that defines the word.For example, how it is calculated, or it is one of the value shown?
in wiki you can find the equipments range of the base stat ヽ(´ー` )┌https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges#Rapierby instants a rapper would has min of 42.8 and max of 51.33 of base if legendary qualities min is 0%, maxx is 100%, another values would be a % of that. if the base is less than 42.8, then the results is negatives ╮(︶▽︶)╭if using the toolbox there is already one script that makes the caltulatiions automaticals and gives the values in% ADB is damages, both weapons and bonus damage of armor is ADB. in wiki is in anacronym sections σ( ̄、 ̄〃)
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Nov 29 2017, 07:37
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Paruri
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I have a question What is difference between equips of before 0.82 and after 0.82
This post has been edited by paruri: Nov 29 2017, 07:37
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Nov 29 2017, 07:53
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 29 2017, 06:37)  I have a question What is difference between equips of before 0.82 and after 0.82
0.82 introduced the leveled items. So the main difference is that pre 0.82 equipment that isnt soulfused is level unassigned. aka everyone can use it. But afaik it gets level assigned to the level of the one who equip it first.
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Nov 29 2017, 10:08
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Slobber
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pre-0.82 equip is generally crappier than after 0.82 equip (rolls are lower in general)
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Nov 29 2017, 10:21
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Paruri
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Nov 29 2017, 17:08)  pre-0.82 equip is generally crappier than after 0.82 equip (rolls are lower in general)
so their rolls are lower but once they got assigned, level scaling work equally with after patch equips, or work differently? And if i buy them, what should i do besides checking base stat?
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Nov 29 2017, 10:21
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sickentide
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before 0.82, quality tier was calculated from the stats, so it was possible to have a legendary where some stats are very low. since 0.82, quality tier is rolled first and then the stats are rolled in that tier's range, so all stats on a legendary are guaranteed a certain minimum
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Nov 29 2017, 10:36
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 28 2017, 15:10)  ( ˘_˘ ) hmm... ( ̄∀ ̄) so the 4% loss of counter-resists if I has pen4 insteads of pen5 means that if I would do 100k damages I will do 96k damages basicals?
Probably would have a little bit more impact than that. Damage as an average would indeed be reduced as, over millions of hits, about 4% of them get resisted. Sometimes fully, sometimes partially. What also would happen is that you'd have to spend a bit more time, on average, "cleaning up." Picking off those survivors who, 4% of the time, have just one more member than usual. This is one of those situations where it is less valuable to think of things in terms of raw DPS. How many t will it cost you to clear DWD PFUDOR with choice A vs choice B. If your T3 Fire kills everything in one cast, there is 4% per target that it takes only half damage (or less) making you take 2t to clear that round instead of 1. Does your T2 Fire one shot everything or take 75% HP away? You're going to have to clean up with T1 fire, but how many times? If your T3 fire isn't killing everything in one shot (resists aside), then how much cleanup is normal and how much more do you need to do because of resists? Increase that annoyance by 4%. How much damage do you take while cleaning up? Will a bit more cleanup force you to Cure more often,thus spending more t on average. Overall, it probably represents an increase in average t spent to clear stuff. It probably is more than a 4% difference. But "basically" no, it matters a bit more than 100k damage vs 96k damage.
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Nov 29 2017, 10:48
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 29 2017, 00:10)  ( ˘_˘ ) hmm... ( ̄∀ ̄) so the 4% loss of counter-resists if I has pen4 insteads of pen5 means that if I would do 100k damages I will do 96k damages basicals?
No, the loss of damage is around 1.2% (difference in turns is difficult to estimate and would require testing both configurations over ~3+ runs averaged). For the math go here. You can use your data and see what you get. Note that average monster resist is likely higher than when I tested (all those 2250PL with 27% counter-resist aren't helping).
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Nov 29 2017, 14:15
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reality_marble
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٩(◕‿◕。)۶ thanks for answers well, back to reforges
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Nov 29 2017, 15:46
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Uncle Stu
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I am just curious, so that i could answer that question myself. But what is consider as ideal IW for DW weapons?
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Nov 29 2017, 15:59
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 29 2017, 14:46)  I am just curious, so that i could answer that question myself. But what is consider as ideal IW for DW weapons?
it mostly depends whether a club is involved or not, since that would be a bit redundant with overpower. (*) for most of the people: with Club: mainhand: But+Fat; offhand: Fat+But w/o Club: mainhand: whatever combo of But, Fat, OP; offhand: Fat+OP. as for the proper amount of OP, well... i have O6 and feel comfy enough, so probably O10 isn't needed? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (*) also, not sure if FRD DW is a thing, but in such a case you should probably boost your speed a bit if you don't have a waki, but that's quite niche.
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Nov 29 2017, 16:09
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Uncle Stu
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So if you counter the monster parry with a club, you just IW main and offhand like a normal 1H weapon? But what does actually mean whatever combo? I mean there has to be something like an ideal mixup, doenst it? I mean even as DW i doubt you want 10 Overpower in both weapon together. Or would you? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Nov 29 2017, 16:28
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 29 2017, 15:09)  So if you counter the monster parry with a club, you just IW main and offhand like a normal 1H weapon?
fact is, a stunned mob cannot parry. so stun proc already offers native counter-parry. so yep, you can skip overpower - or at least, this is the common suggestion. though the first hit still has to land, so personally i wouldn't mind a level or two. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 29 2017, 15:09)  I mean even as DW i doubt you want 10 Overpower in both weapon together. Or would you? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) i doubt as well. as i said, i have OP6 (in total, of course) and i feel it's already good enough. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Nov 29 2017, 15:09)  But what does actually mean whatever combo? I mean there has to be something like an ideal mixup, doenst it?
as for "whatever combo" i mean that the difference between butcher and fatality shouldn't be too big, afterall. probably you could boost fatality a bit if you have a high Crit chance...
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Nov 29 2017, 16:50
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Uncle Stu
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So alltoghether in both weapons something around like 6 of Over/But/Fat?
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