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Nov 27 2017, 15:34
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Nov 27 2017, 14:10)  let me put it this way: i have decided to attach as much bling as humanly possible to my shade set (hell, it worked for mr. t), and the cost of that is dwarfed by what you have to spend for an endgame holy set
possibly even for one piece only. too lazy to do the math though. en passant, you should need something like 75M to fully forge a Radiant, 55M to forge it to lv50 and 49M to fully forge a non-Radiant (some stats already excluded). repeat it for all pieces, staffs and perks. QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 27 2017, 14:25)  I am just curious that how enormous it costed through, like 1000M credit for full set L Holy? And what about full set Peerless Holy, does it ever exist?
oh, that is slightly easier. Peerless Holy pieces (not sure if a set exists, and even less whether a single person can afford it) should go in the 150~170 M range each. maybe a bit more for the Robe. Staff should be similar, iirc.
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Nov 27 2017, 15:48
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 27 2017, 21:34)  possibly even for one piece only. too lazy to do the math though.
en passant, you should need something like 75M to fully forge a Radiant, 55M to forge it to lv50 and 49M to fully forge a non-Radiant (some stats already excluded). repeat it for all pieces, staffs and perks. oh, that is slightly easier. Peerless Holy pieces (not sure if a set exists, and even less whether a single person can afford it) should go in the 150~170 M range each. maybe a bit more for the Robe. Staff should be similar, iirc.
wow dafuq, just go back and play with my fire... What about drop chance for such L Holy set? I got my LFWD and L Charged phase cloth of Surtr by drop luck. But I have never got any L/M Radiant cloth so far, not to mention with desired EDB... This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Nov 27 2017, 15:51
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Nov 27 2017, 15:57
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 27 2017, 14:48)  What about drop chance for such L Holy set? I got my LFWD and L Charged phase cloth of Surtr by drop luck
let's put it this way: you got very lucky. useful drops are quite rare nowadays (compared to all the items that are put for sale, i mean), and selfdrops way more.
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Nov 27 2017, 16:32
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 27 2017, 21:57)  let's put it this way: you got very lucky. useful drops are quite rare nowadays (compared to all the items that are put for sale, i mean), and selfdrops way more.
How do these experts afford such costly equipments? They are uploader/donator?
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Nov 27 2017, 16:48
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 27 2017, 07:32)  How do these experts afford such costly equipments? They are uploader/donator?
Some people did without donating anything, you're a casual.
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Nov 27 2017, 17:39
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 27 2017, 14:07)  How much are this kind of fully forged Holy equipment set worth?
I think I spent around 200+M in forging and 35000+ haths in perks. If you add the value of the items, IW costs etc etc you need 500M or something like that to replicate my build. If you add a very very good staff + full radiant (with 80+% EDB) + more Dæmon Duality perks you can easily surpass 1000M. @Scremaz: I don't think a PHOH will go for less than 300M.
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Nov 28 2017, 04:01
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Sad Penguin
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How you guyz allocate primary attributes for magical fighting style? I am still finding the balance...
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Nov 28 2017, 07:20
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Setton-san
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What does 'ADB' mean?
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Nov 28 2017, 07:21
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Drksrpnt
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QUOTE(Setton-san @ Nov 28 2017, 00:20)  What does 'ADB' mean?
Attack Damage Bonus
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Nov 28 2017, 08:09
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Noni
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 28 2017, 03:01)  How you guyz allocate primary attributes for magical fighting style? I am still finding the balance...
INT=WIS, highest Dex = lv - 50 END = INT -20 AGI =INT-10 STR = 0
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Nov 28 2017, 08:24
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JogadorAbs
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I have a question about the economy: Whats the biggest income of credits in the game that isnt another player? Where all those millions upon millions of credits come from to begin with?
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Nov 28 2017, 08:40
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UnknowDestroyer
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Gallery Upload, Bounty, etc.
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Nov 28 2017, 12:01
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ikki.
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 28 2017, 05:01)  How you guyz allocate primary attributes for magical fighting style? I am still finding the balance... str = dex = 0 agi = end = level wis = int = max
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Nov 28 2017, 12:16
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Nov 28 2017, 11:01)  str = dex = 0 agi = end = level wis = int = max
Having a flat 0 in a stat is a mistake not to do for any fighting style, because all stats contribute to the spirit bar and you're better off with a considerably better SP pool than a single point in one of the maxed out stats. That is, I'm not even mentioning the fact that parry is boosted by the Dex stat.
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Nov 28 2017, 12:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Nov 28 2017, 11:16)  I'm not even mentioning the fact that parry is boosted by the Dex stat.
this. i'm not sure what's the effect of a bigger base SP pool for mages, but DEX is the only way to boost Parry for them. getting a 20%-ish shouldn't be a bad thing
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Nov 28 2017, 12:45
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qiaoyao12456
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 28 2017, 04:01)  How you guyz allocate primary attributes for magical fighting style? I am still finding the balance...
AGI=END=INT=WIS=DEX+50=STR+100
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Nov 28 2017, 13:04
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Nov 28 2017, 03:01)  How you guyz allocate primary attributes for magical fighting style? I am still finding the balance...
INT = WIS END = AGI = WIS - 5 DEX = WIS - 55 (I have no idea where the 55 comes from, ideally you should check the defensive boost of DEX compared to AGI and find the values that gives the same efficiency) STR = 0 until level 500 (at level 500 it will just have the unallocated points) QUOTE(JogadorAbs @ Nov 28 2017, 07:24)  Where all those millions upon millions of credits come from to begin with?
You can pretty much get millions of credits by just playing (credits drop, artifacts, equip drops and, if you do fests, crystals). The other source should be considered a contribute to the site more than a way to get a benefit in HV. Porn > HV.
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Nov 28 2017, 15:02
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ikki.
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Nov 28 2017, 13:16)  Having a flat 0 in a stat is a mistake not to do for any fighting style, because all stats contribute to the spirit bar and you're better off with a considerably better SP pool than a single point in one of the maxed out stats. That is, I'm not even mentioning the fact that parry is boosted by the Dex stat. parry for mage? for what? imperil -> spell -> everybody dead triggered SoL consumed 50 % of sp fewer sp are easier and faster to restore by sd right?
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Nov 28 2017, 15:32
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Nov 28 2017, 14:02)  parry for mage? for what? imperil -> spell -> everybody dead
triggered SoL consumed 50% of sp fewer sp are easier and faster to restore by sd right?
No parry > Monsters attack while you imperil > YOU dead Bigger SP pool > easier to maintain with draughts + less spirit potions used + spirit regeneration strenghtened
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Nov 28 2017, 15:33
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crute
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According to wiki 's formulas on sp, sp consumption of spark+shield, sd + natural restoration, increasing pans will not affect the ratio among them. Thus, str provides 0 useful stats.
Reality may of course be different since wiki is known to be not 100% accurate
This post has been edited by cirrux: Nov 28 2017, 15:35
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