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Nov 24 2017, 16:03
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 24 2017, 05:44)  am not that rich ppl .・゚゚・(/ω\)・゚゚・. to forg just edb to 50 of the 4 clothes would take almost half year by todays earning speed. +1 month for low%edb chargeds or +2-3moth for chargeds with nice% in edb
only options that can afford fast would be basic dark + forge to 5 (which means same as hav now just changing the elemen) (∩` ロ ´)⊃━炎炎炎炎炎 but if would not drop my SG spanking time then not worthy to spend the money and best start to charge
thx noice stuff is expendings ヾ( ̄◇ ̄)ノ〃 calculated with katalox. wil-short staff would need more 1 month of arenamoneys
Playing mage isn't cheap. It is expensive to get it working. There is no actually cheap version of it. Because forging everything is ridiculously costly, even after cheaply buying gear from auctions. It is all that high-grade cloth and wood, phazons, and throwing away all the monies. Welcome to the end-game economy bias.
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Nov 24 2017, 16:08
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 24 2017, 12:03)  Welcome to the end-game economy bias. if that ~30% differents in elemental mitigation that a dark set has over elemen set against iscoolgirl ฅ(•ㅅ•❀)ฅ make nice advantage it would be better options for me to change for it. my fire to same % darkset would be only option that can be completed before 2018 but, yup, any optnions i make now will have me to stick with it for a couple months to make work. sadly internets isn't that good in t/s to aim for fast clear like the ppl with DW said they hav (=①ω①=)This post has been edited by reality_marble: Nov 24 2017, 20:30
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Nov 25 2017, 00:59
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Nayas
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Is 1% of physical mitigation effectively the same as +1 to crushing,+1 slashing,+1 piercing?
I'm trying to evaluate if it's worth trading 3% p.mit on helmet for +3/3/10 specific physical mitigations on a new one.
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Nov 25 2017, 02:03
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Nayas @ Nov 24 2017, 23:59)  Is 1% of physical mitigation effectively the same as +1 to crushing,+1 slashing,+1 piercing?
I'm trying to evaluate if it's worth trading 3% p.mit on helmet for +3/3/10 specific physical mitigations on a new one.
No. Not at all. These are different mitigation layers: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/DamageLet's say you have 90% PMit (yes I know it's not possible, it's just to illustrate) and 30% for each individual physical (crushing/slashing/piercing), the buff in the global reduction will be much greater if you go from 90 to 91 PMit than if you went from 20 to 21 for each all the three individual. Furthermore, you got to know that the general physical mitigation affects all physical attacks, which includes the void physical attacks, and of course the specific mitigations cannot. But for each of the three specific types, you got to calculate the overall mitigation to know what solution is more effective.
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Nov 25 2017, 05:30
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holymoons
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my stamina dropped too fast, is there someone telling me all the pony?I'm always wrong. I mean all the pictures what I need to answer. and the energy drink is too expensive
sorry, English isn't my first language,so if there is something I didn't express clearly.Please tell me.
This post has been edited by holymoons: Nov 25 2017, 06:07
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Nov 25 2017, 05:44
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Nayas
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Nov 25 2017, 03:03)  No. Not at all. These are different mitigation layers: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/DamageOh thanks, for some reason I thought multiplicative bonus of +1 would be equal, but it's not the case unless p.mit and special mit. are at very close values. In that example at 90%p.mit and 20% specific mit., +1 p.mit is worth +8 of specific mit. Though in more realistic scenario like 80/30 that would be 3.5, which is nice to know. QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 25 2017, 06:30)  my stamina dropped too fast, is there someone telling me all the pony?I'm always wrong. I mean all the pictures what I need to answer. and the happy pills is too expensive sorry, English isn't my first language,so if there is something I didn't express clearly.Please tell me.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/File:Ponychart.jpgDon't use happy pills, upgrading monsters with crystals raises morale and is much cheaper. This post has been edited by Nayas: Nov 25 2017, 05:51
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Nov 25 2017, 05:58
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holymoons
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QUOTE(Nayas @ Nov 25 2017, 11:50)  https://ehwiki.org/wiki/File:Ponychart.jpgDon't use happy pills, upgrading monsters with crystals raises morale and is much cheaper. sorry,I don't have monsters,I can't upgrade monsters with crystals
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Nov 25 2017, 06:08
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holymoons
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QUOTE(TakanashiRi @ Nov 25 2017, 12:03)  thanx it's quite helpful and yes I mean the energy drink thank you for your help and pointing my mistake out And another question:how to show my equipments in PM? This post has been edited by holymoons: Nov 25 2017, 08:02
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Nov 25 2017, 09:56
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holymoons
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 25 2017, 15:16)  thanx but i'm on the phone
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Nov 25 2017, 10:13
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Noni
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QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 25 2017, 08:56)  thanx but i'm on the phone
Then there is no way that I know of.
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Nov 25 2017, 12:10
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crute
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 24 2017, 21:44)  am not that rich ppl .・゚゚・(/ω\)・゚゚・. to forg just edb to 50 of the 4 clothes would take almost half year by todays earning speed. +1 month for low%edb chargeds or +2-3moth for chargeds with nice% in edb
only options that can afford fast would be basic dark + forge to 5 (which means same as hav now just changing the elemen) (∩` ロ ´)⊃━炎炎炎炎炎 but if would not drop my SG spanking time then not worthy to spend the money and best start to charge
thx noice stuff is expendings ヾ( ̄◇ ̄)ノ〃 calculated with katalox. wil-short staff would need more 1 month of arenamoneys
Keep going with fire until you can comfortably clear all arena on pfudor(minus schoolgirl). That should give you enough money to reconsider which path to invest in. You can skip on charged if you don't play grindfest, mystic radiant and phase with high edb is better for arena This post has been edited by cirrux: Nov 25 2017, 12:11
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Nov 25 2017, 12:44
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reality_marble
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thanks for answer, c.c.irrux (~˘▽˘)~
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Nov 25 2017, 16:17
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(cirrux @ Nov 25 2017, 02:10)  Keep going with fire until you can comfortably clear all arena on pfudor(minus schoolgirl). That should give you enough money to reconsider which path to invest in. You can skip on charged if you don't play grindfest, mystic radiant and phase with high edb is better for arena
So, wait. Mages clear something else in Arena besides this: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/1vmVIXM.png)
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Nov 25 2017, 16:29
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Noni
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 25 2017, 15:17)  So, wait. Mages clear something else in Arena besides this: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/1vmVIXM.png) sure! The whole 2nd page is worth your time/stamina.
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Nov 25 2017, 16:30
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 25 2017, 12:17)  So, wait. Mages clear something else in Arena besides this:
probablys just ? ♬(〜 ̄▽ ̄)〜 〜(  ̄▽ ̄ )〜 〜( ̄▽ ̄〜)♬information unknown
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Nov 25 2017, 17:55
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Piscolabis
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 25 2017, 15:17)  So, wait. Mages clear something else in Arena besides this: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/1vmVIXM.png) To Kill a God.
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Nov 25 2017, 18:24
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 25 2017, 15:29)  sure! The whole 2nd page is worth your time/stamina.
First page is not very good for stamina but it takes just ~8 minutes and you can get a few tokens that way. I usually pop aether shard + featherweight and do 1st page, 2nd page and a couple of IW runs. If you can spare 1h/day I think it's not a bad solution.
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Nov 25 2017, 19:44
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friggo
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Nov 25 2017, 19:24)  First page is not very good for stamina but it takes just ~8 minutes and you can get a few tokens that way.
I usually pop aether shard + featherweight and do 1st page, 2nd page and a couple of IW runs. If you can spare 1h/day I think it's not a bad solution.
I agree with this. Now that I've switched to mage, it takes only a little over 1 hour to do both pages on PFUDOR. And also since I basically have endgame gear anyway, credits are less important to me than tokens, so even though the first page is not efficient in regards of stamina, it still means extra tokens with little effort. As an experiment, I've actually been tracking the token bonuses from first page arenas over the last three months. In 90 days, I've gotten 232 tokens from first page arena clear bonuses alone. Worth (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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