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post Nov 24 2017, 04:29
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Hey guys, I was debating throwing down some in the auction this week for a weapon, but realized I had a couple of good weapons lying around that I haven't committed to yet. I was wondering if I could get some opinions on what to go for.

Legendary Demonic Axe of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/144425062/27e110263d
Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Balance
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/141135369/4560d1dd25
Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/128919770/5b671a73e7


I'm leaning toward the shortsword, decent percentages and slaughter, which seems to be popular for a reason. Rapier seems fine in percentages, but I get that Balance really isn't that popular for sword and board.

Either way, for whatever reason, I'm still rocking this baby [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/138587152/dfdfe2f553 , so it's going to be a fairly large improvement. I've just been really stingy on soul fragments...the upgrades I've constantly come across would use a big chunk of them, so I've been wanting to use them sparingly until I find a piece that I will hold on to for a while.
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post Nov 24 2017, 07:34
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Nov 23 2017, 18:29) *

Hey guys, I was debating throwing down some in the auction this week for a weapon, but realized I had a couple of good weapons lying around that I haven't committed to yet. I was wondering if I could get some opinions on what to go for.

Legendary Demonic Axe of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/144425062/27e110263d
Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Balance
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/141135369/4560d1dd25
Legendary Tempestuous Shortsword of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/128919770/5b671a73e7
I'm leaning toward the shortsword, decent percentages and slaughter, which seems to be popular for a reason. Rapier seems fine in percentages, but I get that Balance really isn't that popular for sword and board.



Assuming you're doing 1h Heavy. If not, then all of this advice is moot. DW Light has an entirely different set of priorities.

Of those four weapons, the Rapier is the best due to highest parry stat. Shortsword being harder hitting is second choice. Neither axe is worth considering.

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post Nov 24 2017, 08:10
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QUOTE(rinshantsumo @ Nov 23 2017, 09:08) *

I started collecting pieces for a mage build.

1. Is there a speed/efficiency/whateverelse comparison somewhere for imperil dark vs. non-imperil dark. I understand that there's a difference in forbidden proficiency required, but none of the advice pages really seem to hash out the differences.

2. Is there a comparison between charged vs radiant vs mystic pieces?


This is based on my experience with holy .
Before fully forging a full set of radiant, and at least dd5, imperil is likely faster.

Charged is best for imperil
Radiant is required for non imperil. (Not enough damage when I was full charged Heimdall dd5 and 40 forge)
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:20
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QUOTE(cirrux @ Nov 24 2017, 08:10) *
Charged is best for imperil
Radiant is required for non imperil. (Not enough damage when I was full charged Heimdall dd5 and 40 forge)

Oh, wow....
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:36
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how to get the tokens?
how to get good equipment?
My stats is below
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:39
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QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 24 2017, 03:36) *

how to get the tokens?
how to get good equipment?
My stats is below


Tokens drop from anywhere, anything you fight. Random Encounters and Arenas are slightly better places to get them. Both Chaos Tokens and Blood Tokens.

You get good equipment by playing the game more. As you get stronger, you can fight more difficult stuff on higher difficulty and will tend to get better quality equipment (average, superior, exquisit, etc.). Also, Arenas are slightly good for equipment.
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:44
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QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 24 2017, 14:36) *

how to get the tokens?

1. Monsters may drop a token after their death, however the chances to get one in this way is very low.
2. You can get a token as a random prize for finishing an arena. Arenas with more rounds tend to give a token more often.
3. You can get a token as one of the prizes in Lottery, however if your money balance is low, don't consider that method.

So, basically, just play arenas every day - the more arenas you will finish every day, more tokens you would get. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 24 2017, 14:36) *

how to get good equipment?


Read this post - it has lots of information about how to get equipment, how to get credits and overall tactics and hints. It looks huge, but it just because this thread has almost all necessary information to play that game well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:44
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 24 2017, 19:39) *

Tokens drop from anywhere, anything you fight. Random Encounters and Arenas are slightly better places to get them. Both Chaos Tokens and Blood Tokens.

You get good equipment by playing the game more. As you get stronger, you can fight more difficult stuff on higher difficulty and will tend to get better quality equipment (average, superior, exquisit, etc.). Also, Arenas are slightly good for equipment.

thanx
But I think I always be defeated in random encounter.
What's wrong with me?
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:50
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QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 24 2017, 03:44) *

thanx
But I think I always be defeated in random encounter.
What's wrong with me?


Try using the protection spell and the regeneration spell. Both will make you harder to kill. Don't forget to use potions to heal your hp and refill mana from curing/buffs.

Take your time and don't try to rush until you've gotten the hang of the game.
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:55
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 24 2017, 19:44) *

1. Monsters may drop a token after their death, however the chances to get one in this way is very low.
2. You can get a token as a random prize for finishing an arena. Arenas with more rounds tend to give a token more often.
3. You can get a token as one of the prizes in Lottery, however if your money balance is low, don't consider that method.

So, basically, just play arenas every day - the more arenas you will finish every day, more tokens you would get. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Read this post - it has lots of information about how to get equipment, how to get credits and overall tactics and hints. It looks huge, but it just because this thread has almost all necessary information to play that game well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

thanx
But I can't win arenas.it's my arenas
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post Nov 24 2017, 13:57
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QUOTE(holymoons @ Nov 24 2017, 14:44) *

thanx
But I think I always be defeated in random encounter.
What's wrong with me?


1. Lower your difficulty. Don't jump higher than your head - it does not worth it
2. You are playing as mage? Consider to play as melee (higher HP, higher defence, higher attack power). Mage is SUPER-powerfull, but only on high level (like level 400 and on), but on low level mage is very tricky to make it work right
3. Don't mix up your armor. There are three armor types: cloth (for mage), heavy (for melee), light (also for melee). Every of three has two subtypes. You should not mix heavy with light, or light with cloth, and so on. You can find more help here. I dare you to read that post (at least headers) if you want to play HentaiVerse well with little to no problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
4. Be sure you equipped your Abilities, Items and so on - again read the link above.

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THAT DIFFICULTY! O_O
Playing IWBTH difficulty on level 99!? You a brave soldier, you know? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Lower down your difficulty - this is A MUST. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)




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post Nov 24 2017, 15:04
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 24 2017, 12:57) *
THAT DIFFICULTY! O_O
Playing IWBTH difficulty on level 99!? You a brave soldier, you know? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Lower down your difficulty - this is A MUST. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


But he's a HERO, it's written right next to his level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
No, seriously. At level 100 one should play Normal/Hard difficulty, and nothing beyond.
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post Nov 24 2017, 15:12
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of question: have a blaze mage set of edb 80% (with prof glove) and wants to go towards more powers ╰(*´︶`*)╯ have to choose between investing on

( ・ω・)⊃-[二] ☆ _/ forg (forg 5 of all now, except staff and glove) - seems most expendings option because phazon is expendings)
ε=ε=┌( >_<)┘ investing on chargeds upgrades
(ノ≧∀≦)ノ ‥…━━━★ or I just start making a normals/frugal darkness set

according to f4tality's auction result list, darkset is actually the sheeapest Ꮚ•ꈊ•Ꮚ *baaa* options, even considering the dark stiff if you consider same quality as the currents one

considering main focus is just SG arenas (target is making all 3 + TTaTT everyday), would you recommends me just going to
dark side of not-moons ψ(▼へ▼メ)~→ or actuallys even dark impericulous set still not taht differents if was just barely forg?

QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 24 2017, 09:57) *

THAT DIFFICULTY! O_O Playing IWBTH difficulty on level 99!? You a brave soldier, you know? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

fun things is that you can play IWBTPervert difficulty very nice and comfy, until exactly around lvl 90 when the spirits starts to appear (งಠ_ಠ)ง σ( •̀ ω •́ σ)

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post Nov 24 2017, 15:19
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 24 2017, 14:12) *

of question: have a blaze mage set of edb 80% (with prof glove) and wants to go towards more powers ╰(*´︶`*)╯ have to choose between investing on

( ・ω・)⊃-[二] ☆ _/ forg (forg 5 of all now, except staff and glove) - seems most expendings option because phazon is expendings)
ε=ε=┌( >_<)┘ investing on chargeds upgrades
(ノ≧∀≦)ノ ‥…━━━★ or I just start making a normals/frugal darkness set

according to f4tality's auction result list, darkset is actually the sheeapest Ꮚ•ꈊ•Ꮚ *baaa* options, even considering the dark stiff if you consider same quality as the currents one

considering main focus is just SG arenas (target is making all 3 + TTaTT everyday), would you recommends me just going to
dark side of not-moons ψ(▼へ▼メ)~→ or actuallys even dark impericulous set still not taht differents if was just barely forg?
fun things is that you can play IWBTPervert difficulty very nice and comfy, until exactly around lvl 90 when the spirits starts to appear (งಠ_ಠ)ง σ( •̀ ω •́ σ)


Okay, if I understood correctly:
- You now have a basic Fire mage set
- You consider 2 options:
1. Upgrade Fire to charged + forge the shit out of it
2. Change to Dark without charged or forging

I've recently changed to Dark, from Cold. Well, I have now 2 styles actually, but okay.

My findings:
1. Halfway-forged full charged dark is pretty close to Full-Forged Cold. Both Imperil style.
2. Unforged dark is hell. Compared to starting cold set.
3. Uncharged dark is hell. Compared to starting cold set
4. Cold is easier to get going.

My advice: Stick to elemental. Use some charged. Forge to perfection. Blast through PFFEST in 1 hr.

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post Nov 24 2017, 15:25
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 24 2017, 15:12) *

of question: have a blaze mage set of edb 80% (with prof glove) and wants to go towards more powers ╰(*´︶`*)╯ have to choose between investing on

Good for you, you're 398. 2 more level and you can get any LDWD. Provided you have the credit, of course. To repeat what others have told me, dark/holy is only slightly faster than elemental. How much faster? Who knows! But to really compete in speed, you need to get several charged ones.

My aim is to do maging without imperil. And just received a shock that doing that require many radiant ones plus daemon duality 5 to really worth it. Uh..., that's expensive. I'm just collecting phase and cotton over 80% EDB/Prof so far. I'm still curious how my set will really fare.

So, I'm curious too. Any dark/holy mage doing non SG arenas without imperil? What we need to do the same?
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post Nov 24 2017, 15:44
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 24 2017, 11:19) *

1. Upgrade Fire to charged + forge the shit out of it

am not that rich ppl .・゚゚・(/ω\)・゚゚・.
to forg just edb to 50 of the 4 clothes would take almost half year by todays earning speed. +1 month for low%edb chargeds or +2-3moth for chargeds with nice% in edb

only options that can afford fast would be basic dark + forge to 5 (which means same as hav now just changing the elemen) (∩` ロ ´)⊃━炎炎炎炎炎 but if would not drop my SG spanking time then not worthy to spend the money and best start to charge

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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Nov 24 2017, 11:25) *
and you can get any LDWD. Provided you have the credit, of course

noice stuff is expendings ヾ( ̄◇ ̄)ノ〃 calculated with katalox. wil-short staff would need more 1 month of arenamoneys
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post Nov 24 2017, 16:03
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 24 2017, 05:44) *

am not that rich ppl .・゚゚・(/ω\)・゚゚・.
to forg just edb to 50 of the 4 clothes would take almost half year by todays earning speed. +1 month for low%edb chargeds or +2-3moth for chargeds with nice% in edb

only options that can afford fast would be basic dark + forge to 5 (which means same as hav now just changing the elemen) (∩` ロ ´)⊃━炎炎炎炎炎 but if would not drop my SG spanking time then not worthy to spend the money and best start to charge

thx
noice stuff is expendings ヾ( ̄◇ ̄)ノ〃 calculated with katalox. wil-short staff would need more 1 month of arenamoneys


Playing mage isn't cheap. It is expensive to get it working. There is no actually cheap version of it. Because forging everything is ridiculously costly, even after cheaply buying gear from auctions. It is all that high-grade cloth and wood, phazons, and throwing away all the monies.

Welcome to the end-game economy bias.
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post Nov 24 2017, 16:08
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 24 2017, 12:03) *
Welcome to the end-game economy bias.

if that ~30% differents in elemental mitigation that a dark set has over elemen set against iscoolgirl ฅ(•ㅅ•❀)ฅ make nice advantage it would be better options
for me to change for it.

my fire to same % darkset would be only option that can be completed before 2018

but, yup, any optnions i make now will have me to stick with it for a couple months to make work. sadly internets isn't that good in t/s to aim for fast clear like the ppl with DW said they hav (=①ω①=)

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post Nov 25 2017, 00:59
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Is 1% of physical mitigation effectively the same as +1 to crushing,+1 slashing,+1 piercing?

I'm trying to evaluate if it's worth trading 3% p.mit on helmet for +3/3/10 specific physical mitigations on a new one.
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Is 1% of physical mitigation effectively the same as +1 to crushing,+1 slashing,+1 piercing?

I'm trying to evaluate if it's worth trading 3% p.mit on helmet for +3/3/10 specific physical mitigations on a new one.


No. Not at all. These are different mitigation layers:
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Damage

Let's say you have 90% PMit (yes I know it's not possible, it's just to illustrate) and 30% for each individual physical (crushing/slashing/piercing), the buff in the global reduction will be much greater if you go from 90 to 91 PMit than if you went from 20 to 21 for each all the three individual.

Furthermore, you got to know that the general physical mitigation affects all physical attacks, which includes the void physical attacks, and of course the specific mitigations cannot. But for each of the three specific types, you got to calculate the overall mitigation to know what solution is more effective.
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