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post Nov 14 2017, 04:33
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 14 2017, 11:15) *

Nop (¬_¬)
Up to lvl 5 is easy calculations, as won't changes

yepp.... definitely nobody won't upgrade mag over lv5....
anyway thanks:)
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post Nov 14 2017, 04:56
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QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 14 2017, 00:04) *

How can i know the costs needed to upgrade mag equips??
Is there any forge optimizer for mag equips??


See if this helps: [docs.google.com] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpJ...dit?usp=sharing

These spreadsheets were made by sssss2.
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post Nov 14 2017, 05:52
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 14 2017, 11:56) *

See if this helps: [docs.google.com] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpJ...dit?usp=sharing

These spreadsheets were made by sssss2.

Ohh!!!This is what i wanted
Thanks:)
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post Nov 14 2017, 11:27
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 14 2017, 00:56) *

These spreadsheets were made by sssss2.

maybe snek ~<:<<<<<> *sssssss* 2 would be willing to add link to wiki?
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post Nov 14 2017, 11:31
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 14 2017, 03:56) *

See if this helps: [docs.google.com] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpJ...dit?usp=sharing

These spreadsheets were made by sssss2.

Yep, those are the tables I used for my spreadsheet. Making a mag version is on my to-do list since, uh... forever, I guess? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 14 2017, 14:18
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 14 2017, 04:09) *

That's a hard one to call.
I went from about Assimilator 4 ??? to Assimilator 16 as soon as 10b announced the prof buff.
Here's my numbers at lvl 464.

If someone can compare what happened with out beefing their assimilator, we could get some sort of a comparison.


QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Nov 14 2017, 05:01) *

I did this (3 to 10) when I was at level 427 (when the new system started I was at the beginning of level 426). In that period I played all arenas + 24 REs, every day, with the stamina below 80. I got the following proficiency gains for 1H:

Well, I think the gains are not so visible in the short term. Maybe, when I reach level 500, this increase in the Assimilator represents an extra 10 points. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Thanks, guys (or ladies, who knows?) - your answers are exactly what IO wanted to hear. That "not so visible" effect is what I have been expecting and I am okay with it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 14 2017, 18:39
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So I'm about to make the switch to mage (finally) and I'd like to ask about grindfests. Specifically, consumable usage.

What scrolls should I be using for a holy mage no-imperil build in PFUDORfest? And at which round should I start using scrolls instead of Innate Arcana? And what about using Holy Infusions and Aether Shards?
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post Nov 14 2017, 19:18
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Oooooh. I just noticed my proficiency higher than my level. lol. Good update. Time to train up my assimilator as well. Anything else important I should know? haha.
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post Nov 14 2017, 19:30
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QUOTE(friggo @ Nov 14 2017, 17:39) *

So I'm about to make the switch to mage (finally) and I'd like to ask about grindfests. Specifically, consumable usage.

What scrolls should I be using for a holy mage no-imperil build in PFUDORfest? And at which round should I start using scrolls instead of Innate Arcana? And what about using Holy Infusions and Aether Shards?

Trial and error.

For me, round 100 was the start of infusion, round 200 start of scrolls, round 600 time to think about fleeing. But that was when I started. Now, infusion and scroll at round 400 an no flee.
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post Nov 14 2017, 20:14
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 14 2017, 20:30) *

Trial and error.

For me, round 100 was the start of infusion, round 200 start of scrolls, round 600 time to think about fleeing. But that was when I started. Now, infusion and scroll at round 400 an no flee.


Thanks for the answer. Which scrolls are worth using, though? Just spam all of them?
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post Nov 14 2017, 20:30
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QUOTE(friggo @ Nov 14 2017, 19:14) *

Thanks for the answer. Which scrolls are worth using, though? Just spam all of them?


just spam all of them indeed. the cheap ones are fine.

p.s. Check my level
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post Nov 14 2017, 20:34
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 14 2017, 21:30) *

just spam all of them indeed. the cheap ones are fine.

p.s. Check my level


Thanks.

Sorry for doubting you in your prediction thread. I was way off. Congrats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 14 2017, 23:16
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QUOTE(friggo @ Nov 14 2017, 17:39) *

What scrolls should I be using for a holy mage no-imperil build in PFUDORfest? And at which round should I start using scrolls instead of Innate Arcana? And what about using Holy Infusions and Aether Shards?

1) All of them (well, absorbtion is not that useful but it's also worth nothing so...
2) When you see you get sparked too often, if I had to guess it will probably happen well before level 300.
Note that a single spirit elixir is worth only a little less than scroll of life + swiftness + protection + shadows so if you see that you're struggling don't
3) I don't like holy infusions because they cost too much, but fell free to use them when things get ugly. Aether shards are a good idea given the fact that you will use a fuckton of mana, holy is already pretty mana expensive and you will use a lot of full-cure, a lot.

Note that you will most probably have to either flee or die before the end, I honestly think no imperil mages should start from IWBTHfest and then move to PFUDOR when they can do it comfortably.
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post Nov 15 2017, 10:43
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QUOTE(friggo @ Nov 15 2017, 00:39) *

So I'm about to make the switch to mage (finally) and I'd like to ask about grindfests. Specifically, consumable usage.

What scrolls should I be using for a holy mage no-imperil build in PFUDORfest? And at which round should I start using scrolls instead of Innate Arcana? And what about using Holy Infusions and Aether Shards?

Holy mage,no-imperil build&PFUDORfest here,using avatar&gods&life from round 1,protection&swiftness&shadows&life would do the same,Infusions also from round 1,no Aether Shards.
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post Nov 15 2017, 21:02
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I'm still a Dark Maging Noob: Pen5 + Spel4 or Pen5 + Arch4 on this willow?

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction

It's for PFFest with Imperil style. I'd guess Pen5+Spel4, but why guess if you can ask the experts?

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post Nov 15 2017, 21:34
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 15 2017, 20:02) *

I'm still a Dark Maging Noob: Pen5 + Spel4 or Pen5 + Arch4 on this willow?

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction

It's for PFFest with Imperil style. I'd guess Pen5+Spel4, but why guess if you can ask the experts?

spel afaik
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post Nov 16 2017, 10:16
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Looking for thought on this staff of mine: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/145402251/eca3e1c1f3
I have read up the HV forum and the advice section of the wiki one day ago, so there might be lots of thing that i'm bad with. So any advice is welcomed.

My current gear that i'm using (either from Bazaar or Drop):
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https://hentaiverse.org/equip/58684507/fa6be29900
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/145477831/da7124b2b5
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/112482744/cbcee053d0
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/145309482/4bc50476e5
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I'm capable of doing NintendoFest to round 115 atm, not sure the base i should be doing.

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post Nov 16 2017, 11:39
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Since I managed to up my Hath gains to about 10 per day, and I already have 500ish in the bank, what perks should I be aiming for?
I already have IA up to V, and I'm mostly interested in stuff that's going to make the grind to 350 faster.
I also have the option of translating a bounty for hath in case the perk is costly, so don't consider that a restraint when making a suggestion.

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post Nov 16 2017, 11:54
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QUOTE(UnknowDestroyer @ Nov 16 2017, 00:16) *

I'm capable of doing NintendoFest to round 115 atm, not sure the base i should be doing.

Grindfest is not a good choice to do really.

Every bit of content in this game gives you some rewards for each round you finish, but you get a big reward for finishing the last round. Grindfest is 1,000 rounds long and if you don't get to the end, you're missing out on the main purpose of it. It also costs an extra stamina point more than other choices you can make. If you do 100 rounds and keep at or above 80 stamina, you spend one stamina per 25 rounds, so that would be four stamina. Grindfests costs five. Spending that five stamina in Arenas would let you clear 125 rounds. Even if they're the easy low level arenas, you get mostly the same rewards for 100-125 stamina, but you get the clear bonus for whatever arenas you complete in that time.

Grindfest also increases in difficulty as you get further in it. Arenas stay the same more or less throughout. As in, there is an increase to damage and HP as you go further in Grindfest, in addition to the number of enemies you're facing.

Overall, it's much better to clear arenas.

As for your staff and stuff: Mage style can be fun. But cloth doesn't protect you very well from hits, so you're taking more damage than if you were wearing heavy armor or even light armor. Spells also eat up mana fast, so you're using up MP pots. Something melee doesn't have to worry about.

If you're having fun and not having trouble running out of potions, then stick with mage as long as you like. But you'll probably want to plan around switching to melee around level 200-250; once your opponents start having spirit attacks, you're going to wind up getting killed a lot without much sturdier defenses. Most people suggest switching to 1h+shield+heavy armor to deal with that.

I'd suggest you make a second persona at that time if you haven't already. You can keep your magey build intact, and start from scratch to build a melee build without using up resets for stats/ability.

Don't worry, mage becomes viable again at high level. It's just the most competed for style of play, so gear and materials for upgrades are the most expensive of any build.

QUOTE(Striborg @ Nov 16 2017, 01:39) *

Since I managed to up my Hath gains to about 10 per day, and I already have 500ish in the bank, what perks should I be aiming for?
I already have IA up to V, and I'm mostly interested in stuff that's going to make the grind to 350 faster.
I also have the option of translating a bounty for hath in case the perk is costly, so don't consider that a restraint when making a suggestion.


Daemon Duality is all around good for grinding faster.
Vigorous Vitality and the MP/SP perks are nice.
Exp boost perks are another obvious choice.
Crystarium and tokenizer are popular for increasing income.

If you're going mage, there is also the perk for your element to increase prof.

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post Nov 16 2017, 11:55
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QUOTE(Striborg @ Nov 16 2017, 10:39) *

Since I managed to up my Hath gains to about 10 per day, and I already have 500ish in the bank, what perks should I be aiming for?
I already have IA up to V, and I'm mostly interested in stuff that's going to make the grind to 350 faster.
I also have the option of translating a bounty for hath in case the perk is costly, so don't consider that a restraint when making a suggestion.

i'd say vigorous vitality
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