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post Nov 9 2017, 18:38
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What's the difference between hentaiverse.org and alt.hentaiverse.org???
I had speed problem in hentaiverse.org but in alt.page had no problem
What cause this difference??
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post Nov 9 2017, 18:48
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QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 9 2017, 17:38) *

What's the difference between hentaiverse.org and alt.hentaiverse.org???
I had speed problem in hentaiverse.org but in alt.page had no problem
What cause this difference??

basically, the path they use to connect your pc to the server. if you have problems on one side, it's usually worth to try the other ons.
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post Nov 9 2017, 21:19
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has questions (・_・ヾ
saw ppl who make lists of legendary drop and have lots in random encounter
is there any advantage in leg drop chance apparts from the normals chance of droppings dropping?
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post Nov 10 2017, 00:07
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How can this legendary equip have an ADB below 0% percentile?

In addition to what the others said, I'll note that the min damage stats for all Legendary Power of Slaughter in the wiki are terrible. They aren't even remotely close to the actual mins. It is so bad that any Magnificent Power of Slaughter, you should not even bother to calculate the adb as the result will be misleading and meaningless.
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post Nov 10 2017, 00:10
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 9 2017, 20:19) *

has questions (・_・ヾ
saw ppl who make lists of legendary drop and have lots in random encounter
is there any advantage in leg drop chance apparts from the normals chance of droppings dropping?


yes, it seems that way doesn't it? My first legendaries where all from RE too.
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post Nov 10 2017, 01:26
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QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 9 2017, 19:38) *

What's the difference between hentaiverse.org and alt.hentaiverse.org???
I had speed problem in hentaiverse.org but in alt.page had no problem
What cause this difference??

Normal HentaiVerse - first you are connecting to ClourFlare DNS server close to your location that checks you are not sending automated requests and is not a spammer - then your browser and server do some HTTPS sertificate validation - then you visit the game.
Alt HentaiVerse - browser just connects to the game-server and you are playing without any voodoo-shmoodoo about ClourFlare and HTTPS.

Basically, you should get same connection speed with both normal and alt (difference is is miserable), however if you are using WinXP OS (it has some issues with HTTPS), or are using tge old browser (again problem with HTTPS), or you live in a quirk place (where closest ClourFlare server is very far away) - then alt site would be faster for you.

I am using alt site because I have some problems with ClourFlare (for some reasons I get the "connection failed" messages here and there), so I decided not to bother and instead using alt site (latest chrome, win7 and chrome 48, winXP). Truth is, I haven't tested the normal site for more than month, so might be my problem is resolved, but I once again, I don't care that much.

The only weird stuff about alt site is when you are posting the equipment link on this forum, forum's plugin adds the [alt.HentaiVerse.org] label. It is odd, because that domain should be whitelisted. But it is minor quirk, other but that - freely use alt site as long as you need. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 10 2017, 03:18
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Nov 9 2017, 22:19) *

has questions (・_・ヾ
saw ppl who make lists of legendary drop and have lots in random encounter
is there any advantage in leg drop chance apparts from the normals chance of droppings dropping?


According to wiki RE has drop, artifact and token roll bonus, but no quality roll bonus.

Personally I get many RE and do get legs from time to time, but since most of them are crap it doesn't really affect anything except soul stuff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 10 2017, 03:47
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I remember long-long time ago I saw a table of matching prefix/type/suffix of staff. It also had the groups: 'good match' and 'bad match'. That table was ordered in manner of "if you are fire mage, then your staff are... If you are cold mage, then..." - you got the point.

Do anyone have link to this table...?

Or alternatively one can spend his time and describe me that system? No details or super tactics - I am not the mage, I don't need them, only need the information about how thes stuff are matched.


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Bless the forum's search function. Found that table
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Fire: higher tier: Fiery Redwood of Destruction; Fiery Redwood of Surtr
       lower tier: Fiery Redwood of Elementalist
Cold: higher tier: Arctic Redwood of Destruction; Arctic Redwood of Niflheim
       lower tier: Arctic Redwood of Elementalist
Wind: higher tier: Tempestuous Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Destruction; Tempestuous Redwood of Freyr
       lower tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Elementalist
Elec: higher tier: Shocking Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Shocking Redwood of Destruction; Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir
       lower tier: Shocking Redwood of Elementalist
Holy: higher tier: Hallowed Oak of Heimdall
         mid tier: Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall; Hallowed Katalox of Destruction;
       lower tier: Hallowed Katalox of the Heaven-sent
Dark: higher tier: Demonic Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Demonic Katalox of Fenrir; Demonic Katalox of Destruction
       lower tier: Demonic Katalox of the Demon-fiend


A different question then, how accurate that table is?

P.s. guess who the author of this table? Our good and great pal - boobs in corset Scremaz. Thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 10 2017, 04:07
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 9 2017, 17:47) *

I remember long-long time ago I saw a table of matching prefix/type/suffix of staff. It also had the groups: 'good match' and 'bad match'. That table was ordered in manner of "if you are fire mage, then your staff are... If you are cold mage, then..." - you got the point.

Do anyone have link to this table...?

Or alternatively one can spend his time and describe me that system? No details or super tactics - I am not the mage, I don't need them, only need the information about how thes stuff are matched.


Well, there are six suffixes for each of the six elements: fire, ice, wind, electric, dark, and holy. There is also a similar prefix.

Getting one of those six prefixes gives your staff that elemental strike, which also raises the spell damage of that element (just like it does for melee weapons). Pairing it with the same suffix raises the spell damage of that element even higher. That generates "EDB."

There are also other suffixes, like Destructive, which raise MDB. Also a good match for any prefixed staff.

Then you have "prof" suffixes, like "Elementalist," "Heaven-sent," and "Demon Fiend". It's pretty useless to get "Elementalist" for a holy staff, but very useful for an Arctic.

So if you're a cold mage, you'd want to raise your cold spells the most you can. Arctic prefix no matter what. Nifflehiem, Destructive, or Elementalist suffixes would be good matches, but I don't know which of the three is the best.

Conversely, a Holy mage would want Hallowed prefix no matter what. Heaven-Sent, Destructive, or Heimdall would be good matches. Again, unsure which would be best.
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post Nov 10 2017, 04:09
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Have a question!
im using alt.hentai and resame tab script for RE
when click the RE link, the page links to regular page, not alt.page
so i want to change it, to links to alt.page
how can i do that???

this is the code i downloaded

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// ==UserScript==
// @name HV RE Same Tab
// @namespace hvsametab
// @version 1.0
// @description Prevents Random Encounter links from opening a new window
// @match *://*.e-hentai.org/*
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

if ( a = document.querySelector('#eventpane a') )
a.setAttribute('onclick', 'document.getElementById("eventpane").style.display="none"');
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post Nov 10 2017, 04:17
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 10 2017, 05:07) *

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As usual, thank you for clear and straight explanation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I have found that table I was talking about and posted it above. Looks like everything you told is included in table, so I am assuming that table is mostly correct.
Still would like to hear pro mages with in-deep experience about this stuff madness.

QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 10 2017, 05:09) *

Have a question!
im using alt.hentai and resame tab script for RE
when click the RE link, the page links to regular page, not alt.page
so i want to change it, to links to alt.page
how can i do that?

Probably, you should consider to use HVred script (see my signature). It has almost everything you need for Random Encounters and in that script you can make game open the links in alt site.

As for script you have posted - it just has no such option. Sadly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Nov 10 2017, 08:18
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 10 2017, 02:47) *


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Fire: higher tier: Fiery Redwood of Destruction; Fiery Redwood of Surtr
       lower tier: Fiery Redwood of Elementalist
Cold: higher tier: Arctic Redwood of Destruction; Arctic Redwood of Niflheim
       lower tier: Arctic Redwood of Elementalist
Wind: higher tier: Tempestuous Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Destruction; Tempestuous Redwood of Freyr
       lower tier: Tempestuous Redwood of Elementalist
Elec: higher tier: Shocking Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Shocking Redwood of Destruction; Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir
       lower tier: Shocking Redwood of Elementalist
Holy: higher tier: Hallowed Oak of Heimdall
         mid tier: Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall; Hallowed Katalox of Destruction;
       lower tier: Hallowed Katalox of the Heaven-sent
Dark: higher tier: Demonic Willow of Destruction
         mid tier: Demonic Katalox of Fenrir; Demonic Katalox of Destruction
       lower tier: Demonic Katalox of the Demon-fiend

A different question then, how accurate that table is?


It's accurate. But in today's market, only the high tier gets decent price. Seems like even starting mages only go vor the High-tier option. I suspect that the Destrucion is slightly better that the elemental suffix for cold and fire, though. maybe elemental fuffix could be called mid-tier?
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post Nov 10 2017, 08:36
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 9 2017, 22:18) *

It's accurate. But in today's market, only the high tier gets decent price. Seems like even starting mages only go vor the High-tier option. I suspect that the Destrucion is slightly better that the elemental suffix for cold and fire, though. maybe elemental fuffix could be called mid-tier?


What is really missing is "how big of a difference is there between the three-ish possible options for each element?"

Realistically, all that probably separates a "top tier" from a "middle tier" is "so, you might be able to get away with a less expensive shirt." Doesn't make too much sense if you pay more for the top-tier staff than you would for the better shirt.
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post Nov 10 2017, 09:09
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Nov 10 2017, 07:36) *

What is really missing is "how big of a difference is there between the three-ish possible options for each element?"

Realistically, all that probably separates a "top tier" from a "middle tier" is "so, you might be able to get away with a less expensive shirt." Doesn't make too much sense if you pay more for the top-tier staff than you would for the better shirt.



It's a matter of minutes difference in clear times in the end. Yes, 8 minutes for DWD is faster than 10 minutes - but how much should that 2 minutes be worth?

What I did is first buy a cheaper set. Then made credits from maging. Then upgraded one piece at the time. Apparently, most players nowadays are past that stage or want to skip that stage all together?
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QUOTE(paruri @ Nov 10 2017, 04:09) *

Have a question!
im using alt.hentai and resame tab script for RE
when click the RE link, the page links to regular page, not alt.page
so i want to change it, to links to alt.page
how can i do that???

this should do it
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// ==UserScript==
// @name        HV RE Same Tab Alt
// @namespace   hvsametab
// @version     1.0
// @description Prevents Random Encounter links from opening a new window
// @match       *://*.e-hentai.org/*
// @grant       none
// ==/UserScript==

if ( (a = document.querySelector('#eventpane a')) ) {
    a.href = a.href.replace('https://hentaiverse', 'http://alt.hentaiverse');
    a.setAttribute('onclick', 'document.getElementById("eventpane").style.display="none"'); }
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post Nov 10 2017, 11:46
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Nov 10 2017, 02:47) *

A different question then, how accurate that table is?

ah, yes, that table. i'd say slightly incomplete, since back then willow for fire and cold wasn't even considered. now we may say that mid~high-tier fiery/arctic willow of destruction may have a place on that. probably as a mid-tier, but not sure.

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 10 2017, 07:18) *

But in today's market, only the high tier gets decent price.

which means there's plenty of mid-tier-yet-still-good-enough staffs available for cheap, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 10 2017, 07:18) *

Seems like even starting mages only go vor the High-tier option.

aye. that's sort a perversion in my eyes, since i also think that:
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What I did is first buy a cheaper set. Then made credits from maging. Then upgraded one piece at the time. Apparently, most players nowadays are past that stage or want to skip that stage all together?

or in other words, first you should close a set (even a cheap one with leftovers from auctions), then start farming with, saying, all the abilities available. if nothing else, to understand if you can go with that style before hurting your wallet too much.
but whatever, maybe things are changed a bit with the new prof system...

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 10 2017, 07:18) *

I suspect that the Destrucion is slightly better that the elemental suffix for cold and fire, though. maybe elemental fuffix could be called mid-tier?

some days ago i asked which one was more important between MDB and EDB, and i was answered (by sapo, iirc) that MDB is almost always superior than EDB, yep.

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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Nov 10 2017, 09:18) *
It's accurate. But in today's market, only the high tier gets decent price. Seems like even starting mages only go vor the High-tier option. I suspect that the Destrucion is slightly better that the elemental suffix for cold and fire, though. maybe elemental fuffix could be called mid-tier?


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 10 2017, 12:46) *
ah, yes, that table. i'd say slightly incomplete,


So, what about this table?
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Fire: 4/4: Fiery Redwood of Destruction;
      3/4: Fiery Willow of Destruction;
      2/4: Fiery Redwood of Surtr;
      1/4: Fiery Redwood of Elementalist;
Cold: 4/4: Arctic Redwood of Destruction;
      3/4: Arctic Willow of Destruction;
      2/4: Arctic Redwood of Niflheim;
      1/4: Arctic Redwood of Elementalist;
Wind: 4/4: Tempestuous Willow of Destruction;
      3/4: Tempestuous Redwood of Freyr;
      2/4: Tempestuous Redwood of Destruction;
      1/4: Tempestuous Redwood of Elementalist;
Elec: 4/4: Shocking Willow of Destruction;
      3/4: Shocking Redwood of Destruction;
      2/4: Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir;
      1/4: Shocking Redwood of Elementalist;
Holy: 4/4: Hallowed Oak of Heimdall;
      3/4: Hallowed Katalox of Destruction;
      2/4: Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall;
      1/4: Hallowed Katalox of the Heaven-sent;
Dark: 4/4: Demonic Willow of Destruction;
      3/4: Demonic Katalox of Destruction;
      2/4: Demonic Katalox of Fenrir;
      1/4: Demonic Katalox of the Demon-fiend;
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i'd say to wait for a mage with a decent background to pop out.

also, is it confirmed that staffs of foucs aren't viable at all?
and i won't even ask for oak of earth-walker, but what about a willow of curse-weaver? wouldn't it allow to go for less penetrator and less strict IWs or would Pen still be needed for dark spells - so that kind is garbage as well?
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post Nov 10 2017, 12:41
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for burn/cool redwood hurtings vs elemen
pick base on range wiki for 100% (pearless, is of hungry ( ˘▽˘)っ♨)

at lvl 500 int 480 wis 480 staffprof 550 no daemonsperk (assumings these values)
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full normal/charged phase of icyhell forged to max in edb/int/wis
except elemen prof shoe also forged to max in int/wis
total edb 336.86
int/wis is same 707.98
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at lvl 500 and max forgings artic crimsonwood of destruction : 1773.33 mdb and 102.45 edb int/wis 127.01
at lvl 500 and max forgings artic vermillionwood of notgoodenoughforvalhalla : 1089.45 mdb and 178.83 edb int/wis 127.01
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magic_dmg calculatings for elemental of destruction: 25097
magic_dmg calculatings for elemental of elemental: 24441





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for burn/cool redwood hurtings vs elemen
pick base on range wiki for 100% (pearless, is of hungry ( ˘▽˘)っ♨)

good. i don't know exactly what a 500 magic score difference implies, but a 2.6% difference seems low enough to me to say they are somehow viable.

and now, let's try to explore a low-forging, mid-level market (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


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