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Is there a general rule, on what would be considered trash loot to sell to the bazaar like superior and under?

Is there a general rule, on what would be considered trash loot to sell to the bazaar like superior and under?

The rule is, if someone can use it, and if that someone is yourself or forum lurker, then you keep it. Otherwise, dump it. Superior rare and Exquisite non-rare are the treshold. Magnificent of current meta and Legendary are wanted.

Is there a general rule, on what would be considered trash loot to sell to the bazaar like superior and under?

At your level, anything below superior unless it's the best thing you have for own use. And superiors and exquisite equipment that is not usable for you or other low level players. Check the WTB of decondelite. If he doesn't want it, it's worthless.

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Oct 31 2017, 10:21

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144193729/cba453885e
I would like to know the estimated price of this piece of equipment😋

salvage it for high grade cloth

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144193729/cba453885e
I would like to know the estimated price of this piece of equipment😋

100k I think

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144193729/cba453885e
I would like to know the estimated price of this piece of equipment😋

I dunno but if you found me some lvl early I woulds wants to buy it (☆▽☆)
(/￣ー￣)/~~☆’.･.･:★’.･.･:☆

Is of Mag Radiands Mjolnir with 3PAB so will finds buyer even withs with low EDB
I knows because I was using a glove that wasn't radiant and had less EDB until last week so I knows will into sells
A gloves of mjolnir too that is ヾ(￣◇￣)ノ

This post has been edited by reality_marble: Oct 31 2017, 12:53

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I know I did compare the soul fragments to credits in the past (in particular how much time it takes for the hath perk to self-pay), but no you cannot really consider them as credits, because:
1) No one does sell soul fragments
2) They're generally too expensive to be considered being bought

One should rather consider soul fragments as a limited resource, and ask himself "how much time would it take me to gather all the fragments needed to soulfuse that equipment?" That should settle whether you should soulfuse an equipment or not.
The answer to this question is also the determining factor of whether one should purchase the hath perk or not.

Is there a general rule, on what would be considered trash loot to sell to the bazaar like superior and under?

Gimme gimme your good superiors. You'll get way more credits than what bazaar offers.

But anything of Average or lower quality: yes, bazaar. Exception to the rule: when you have an "average phase/shade/power" or an "average force shield", salvage it instead.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144193729/cba453885e
I would like to know the estimated price of this piece of equipment😋

It ain't the place for that here, but I think that 200k would be a very suitable price.
And @jplshejeser: I dunno how to express my anger at you in a "politically correct" manner, for suggesting to salvage that equipment.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Oct 31 2017, 13:19

I currently salvage all averages. Aren't you supposed to be guaranteed to get more scraps than credit value?

The answer to this question is also the determining factor of whether one should purchase the hath perk or not.

Hath perk is such bullshities ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌
wow 10 soul a day ┐(︶▽︶)┌ much 2 random encounter wow

hath perk can be easily subsdingtutes by checkings cellphone twice ╮(︶︿︶)╭ around the days if has internets

hopings will buff perk with ヽ(￣～￣　)ノ 20 a day or somethings
this way would be ables to soulfuse 1 mag/leg in your lvl by month with it at leasts

I know I did compare the soul fragments to credits in the past (in particular how much time it takes for the hath perk to self-pay), but no you cannot really consider them as credits, because:
1) No one does sell soul fragments
2) They're generally too expensive to be considered being bought

One should rather consider soul fragments as a limited resource, and ask himself "how much time would it take me to gather all the fragments needed to soulfuse that equipment?" That should settle whether you should soulfuse an equipment or not.
The answer to this question is also the determining factor of whether one should purchase the hath perk or not.
Gimme gimme your good superiors. You'll get way more credits than what bazaar offers.

But anything of Average or lower quality: yes, bazaar. Exception to the rule: when you have an "average phase/shade/power" or an "average force shield", salvage it instead.
It ain't the place for that here, but I think that 200k would be a very suitable price.
And @jplshejeser: I dunno how to express my anger at you in a "politically correct" manner, for suggesting to salvage that equipment.

It is nice to see the above experts replied me so fast.
Would you plz direct me to the correct post for prize asking😊
Anyway it will go to auction if you dun purchase it from me🤗

sorry im noob decondelite

Me1 you cane ask price here:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4985752

I currently salvage all averages. Aren't you supposed to be guaranteed to get more scraps than credit value?

That may bring you slightly more in scraps value than just selling, but the micromanagement it takes for a few dozens of credits is just not worth the effort. It's already a pain in the neck to clean the inventory after a full arena run. And we're talkin about merely 3-4 averages a day, if you do full PFUDOR arenas.

sorry im noob decondelite

I used to make mistakes too in the past too, you're forgiven. Anyway I'm aware of the fact that there aren't many players who have the experience in low level equips, so errors are to be expected.

wow 10 soul a day ┐(︶▽︶)┌ much 2 random encounter wow

And here we go again with the 12 RE a day excentricity. Yeah, go ahead, go ruin your life each and every day and every 30 minutes. Come back when you can't bear it anymore, or even when you're taking a break from HV, on a vacation without internet or other kinds of fancy things that make it so that you won't visit HV.

In the top of things that anger me the most around HV, there are:
1) "everything is shit / high grade material"
2) "you are stupid because you're not playing the (assumed) efficient way"
3) "the soul fragment perk is garbage because you can get 60 fragments a day out of REs"

It is nice to see the above experts replied me so fast.
Would you plz direct me to the correct post for prize asking😊
Anyway it will go to auction if you dun purchase it from me🤗

The price check thread is usually used for that. But I fear that you may obtain very approximate estimations or even worse people telling you to salvage while it shouldn't. As for the auctions... feel free to do so if you want, but keep in mind that mid-level players aren't numerous and that fighting over a Mag like this one is unlikely to happen. That is, if super/kedama even accept that item.

There is a good reason why I do work on low level gear. Getting the fair price everyone deserves is one of them. You don't want it to go for the start price (50k) in auctions, do you?

PS:
Damn it's very hard to write in a "politically correct" manner. I hate it.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Oct 31 2017, 15:02

60 fragment is too much because 12 RE at least
6 hour takings attentiosn to screen __φ(◎◎ヘ) too muchs

meanwhile 2 random encounter is turn computer when comings (￣▽￣)/ home
do anothers when goign (￣o￣) zzZZzzZZ
For most beginn player doing this better than spending 500 hath / 2.1 million credit
pls nerf price ヾ(￣◇￣)ノ〃

This post has been edited by reality_marble: Oct 31 2017, 15:48

I agree. Once I sent a mag radiant to auction and sold it for 50k... You can sell that stuff for more than that

My bad...
i only checked the custom fonts box but didn't adjust size, features.
after adjusting them according to troubleshooting all arenas are shown:)
Sorry, and Thanky!

Ohh. So it was a Custom Font after all. Yeah, that font is a pain in an ass.

hmmmmmmm....
inline difficulty changer doesn't looks like working... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
but the set changer is working....

Yes, it is not working properly in Firefox browser (for some unknown reasons), however it works in Chrome. Will investigate and fix it when will have enough free time. Ehh, I had weekend and spent it in lying in bad and watched some stupid movies. At least I laughed a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Is there a general rule, on what would be considered trash loot to sell to the bazaar like superior and under?

There is no absolute guaranteed and right way to deal with equipment.

The idea is that salvaging should bring you more materials that you can buy for money in case of bazaaring according to prices of in-game bazaar. However, noone buy materials from bazaar - it is way cheaper to buy stuff from WTS-section of the forum.

If bazaar price of equipment is 101 credits, then you can get two Scrap from it. If you consider that price of Scrap is 85 in WTS-section, then by salvaging you have saved 69 credits (2 x 85 - 101). However if same equipment has price of 198 credits, you still will get same 2 scraps and will lose 28 credits by salvaging (2 x 85 - 198). So you can't rely on bazaar price for all times.

There is no best tactic here apart from calculating the price of equipment manually and deciding whether salvage it or bazaar. If you are using HVtoolBox script - it may tell you what is more "beneficial" to salvage/bazaar according to prices you have provided in settings.

You will get 3 scraps from averages if the price exceeds 200 credits, high drop condition or high rolls can cause this.

It's already a pain in the neck to clean the inventory after a full arena run.

I haven't experimented much with it yet, but would it be easier if you lock or move to storage everything you are keeping, then just use the sell all buttons after each arena?

That's already what I'm doing and it's already something that is a bother. One hand, sell all, validate, two hand sell all validate, staff sell all validate...
I don't send my own personal equipment to the storage BTW. The storage is for equips that travel through my shop.

if i use SP only for SoL, then less SP - better?

I know I did compare the soul fragments to credits in the past (in particular how much time it takes for the hath perk to self-pay), but no you cannot really consider them as credits, because:
1) No one does sell soul fragments
2) They're generally too expensive to be considered being bought

One should rather consider soul fragments as a limited resource, and ask himself "how much time would it take me to gather all the fragments needed to soulfuse that equipment?" That should settle whether you should soulfuse an equipment or not.
The answer to this question is also the determining factor of whether one should purchase the hath perk or not.

I disagree. The reason others don't convert it to credits is because they're wrong.

It doesn't matter if you actually buy or sell soul fragments. They're in infinite supply at the cost of 1k credits each.

You should soulfuse an item if it is a good idea, and can afford it. Period. Soulfusion is expensive, so it very often is not a good idea. But it is a good idea and worth the cost some amount of the time.

Not soulfusing something when it is a good idea is a cost.

Soulfusing something when it is a bad idea reduces your available resources, and one such cost is not being able to soulfuse something when it is a good idea, or delaying it, or what have you.

Convert all things to a common currency. "no, don't consider it credits, consider it time" is just nonsense. Time = money.

Determining if it is a good idea or not has to be assessed in comparison to the alternate. Soulfusing a piece of gear locks its gear level to your level. It directly competes with the alternate strategy of "buy a new sword when I am higher level, so that new sword is my level." Until you hit max level, this is a constant concern, and a major driving force behind a newbie's interest in soulfusion.

So if you don't soulfuse, you will be spending credits on some amount of upgrades. Some simply for the sake of raising gear level, as well as some simply for better base stats, better suffix, better prefix, or more appropriate subtype for your build (switching from axe to rapier for example). Upgrading has a lot of factors, but they're not infinite. You can assign value to them all. That value is in credits.

So if you want to compare soulfusion to it, you need to convert it into credits to accurately compare the two.

As for the hath perk, that too is a slightly complicated piece of math. On the one hand, it is a free 10k credits each day. But those 10k credits are locked into a purchase: soul fragments. There is also a concern that someday you will have your perfect gear, and never need to soulfuse ever again. At which point the perk stops making you any money.

How long will it take for you to get to that state of never wanting to soulfuse anything ever again? How many days x 10k credits, and that is how much value you get out of the perk.

The perk costs 500 hath, and at 4k credits per hath that is 2m. So multiple whatever you pay above 4k by 500 to get the exact price. 2m is an estimate. It'll take 200 days for the perk to pay for 2m, so it will take slightly over 200 days depending on hath price.

Will you find yourself getting to that state of never wanting to soulfuse anything ever again in about 200-ish days? How long it takes after 200-ish days is how much free credits you earn from the perk. If it takes you ten years of playing to reach that state, the perk is a huge amount of value. If you only play for a year, most of that year will be spent paying for itself, and you'll get very little value.

How many RE you do a day is irrelevant. "Just do two more RE" is nonsense. One RE is of high value, you should already do as many as you are capable/willing to do. It is impossible to just do two more, otherwise you'd already be doing those two. For some, there is a hardcap as you can only do 24 a day max, no matter how much you want to do more.