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post Oct 30 2017, 14:43
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Oct 30 2017, 13:33) *

Question, since the morale amount of monsters has been increased, the the perk Extra Strength Formula worth buying? Does it increase it so that if a monster needs 3 happy pills, it only needs 1.5 instead (which would show up as "Needs 1 happy pill" in the monster lab window i would assume?) Currently at 64 monsters.

on the long term it seems it's worth it, yep. though since the threshold is 12000 morale, for a better ROI you'd better use a script which displays numbers on monster lab (i use HV Monster Lab Numbers, but Crunk Juice should have the same function).

otherwise, could someone with a monster on the yellow zone confirm whether one pill only or two are required?
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post Oct 30 2017, 15:31
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Oct 30 2017, 20:33) *

Question, since the morale amount of monsters has been increased, the the perk Extra Strength Formula worth buying? Does it increase it so that if a monster needs 3 happy pills, it only needs 1.5 instead (which would show up as "Needs 1 happy pill" in the monster lab window i would assume?) Currently at 64 monsters.

"Morale drains over time at a base rate of ~33 per hour"
So it's about one pill per 7.5 day per monster basically.Since you have gold star will reduce 50% drain rate,it will be about one pill per 15 day per monster,let's suppose you have level 0 Training and 50pl monster,64 monsters needs 128 pills per month,which cost about 1.5m,Extra Strength Formula reduce half of this,which is 750k per month,and cost 500hath~=2.2m.It'll need 3 months to earn back.

If pl raised to 250,it will need twice times to earn the money back,the higher pl you feed,the longer it will be.And feed more monsters will reduce this time.
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post Oct 30 2017, 15:52
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QUOTE(issary @ Oct 30 2017, 09:31) *

"Morale drains over time at a base rate of ~33 per hour"
So it's about one pill per 7.5 day per monster basically.Since you have gold star will reduce 50% drain rate,it will be about one pill per 15 day per monster,let's suppose you have level 0 Training and 50pl monster,64 monsters needs 128 pills per month,which cost about 1.5m,Extra Strength Formula reduce half of this,which is 750k per month,and cost 500hath~=2.2m.It'll need 3 months to earn back.

If pl raised to 250,it will need twice times to earn the money back,the higher pl you feed,the longer it will be.And feed more monsters will reduce this time.

considering i don't expect to start leveling my monsters until i have the full 200, which will be like well over a year at this rate, then i guess its very worth my hath/credits, question though, will it show as needing 1 happy pill needed instead of 3 at yellow (since it would go to 1.5 , and round down)
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post Oct 30 2017, 18:56
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hey im serious here
im at level 552 with shit equipment

Sorrys (シ_ _)シ I am not PFUDORfest strong ppl

Are you still on the job? Someone pls ヽ( ̄(エ) ̄)ノ :

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help
i play 1h
can somebdoy illustrate to me whats gonna happen in the last 200 rounds of prfudor grindfest?
because i didnt bring any spirit elixir
im at 400

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post Oct 30 2017, 19:03
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Here I am again.
For someone that started playing only for multipage on galleries I am really enjoying this game XD.

OK, I asked several days ago one weapon on freeshop, and got it today. I was thinking in soulfuse one exquisite weapon, since it is the best quality for only 250 fragments. So far, so good.
The point is that I am worried if this is a "low roll stats" weapon...
I tried to understand the formula on wiki, but I am missing something... Where weapons levels goes?
Values ranges: attack 68.74. - 82.3 - elemental range : 8.41 - 9.62
My weapon.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129578176/cd3efb5e81

Although it is enough to only inform my weapon values, it will be nice for me if I can understand the formula and start doing it by myself from now on.

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post Oct 30 2017, 19:19
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QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 30 2017, 19:03) *

Values ranges: attack 68.74. - 82.3 - elemental range : 8.41 - 9.62
My weapon.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129578176/cd3efb5e81

70.85 base attack, 9.22 base spell damage.
Just hover your mouse over the stat you want to see the base value.
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post Oct 30 2017, 20:05
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Wiki range value of Leg/Per is the base to calculate that % in the script
by exemplanations (  ̄ー ̄)φ__

max - min = 100% in the range. Would be the min + this value = max value. Min + (max-min)*0.4 = 40%. Min + (max-min)*0 = 0%
base value - min = Would be how much the value is in the range

max - min = 100
base - min = x
x = (base - min) * 100 / (max - min)

Example:
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/143801987/81c521689a
Shortsword of Balance ADB min = 41.26 ADB max = 47.92
max-min = 6.66 Base = 46.07
x% = (46.07 - 41.26 ) * 100 / (47.92 - 41.26) = 4.81 * 100 / 6.66 = 72.22222
Rounded to the nearest whole number = 72% . Check equip = 72% in script!

Now anothers ヾ( `ー´)シφ__
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/143786771/95ac2fcdde
This one exquisite shortsword of balance ADB min = 41.26 ADB max = 47.92 max-min = 6.66 -> range is always from legendary in script
base = 35.16
x% = (35.16 - 41.26) * 100 / 6.66 = -6.1 * 100 / 6.66 = -91.59 -> rounding to near whole number = -92% ---->>>> check equip, ADB = -92%

Now __φ(◎◎ヘ) anothers: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/143838870/fe5436d6cb
superior shortsword of swiftness base 28.02
x% = (28.02 - 41.26) * 100 / 6.66 = -198.79 -> rounds to 199% ----->>>>> check page = 199%

Range is always compared to Leg so lets make for your equipment in the Exquisite Range
ADB of your exquisite longsword slaughter min = 68.74 max = 82.3
max - min = 13.56
base = 70.85
x% = (base - min) * 100 / (max - min) = (70.85 - 68.74) * 100 / (82.3 - 68.74) = 2.11 * 100 / 13.56 = 15.56
your x%, if the script read individual quality ranges, would be 16%

but script reads leg range only, so ADB min = 86.45 and ADB max = 98.47
max - min = 12.02
your base = 70.85
x = (base - min) * 100 / (max - min) = (70.85 - 86.45 ) * 100 / (12.02) = -129.78
rounded to -130%
now we check your equip = 40, IW 1 , ADB -130%
Right value in the legendary range

So makings things shorts (which are comfy and easy to wear) ....φ(︶▽︶)φ....
x% = (base - min) * 100 / (max - min)
this rounded to nearest whole values
Script does this automaticallys to you, but if you wants to check how would somethings be on the range for some weird reasonings as the script will give you a percentage anyway, even if <0% if bellow legendary ranges, then that is that

too long didn't into readings ヽ(°〇°)ノ hoover over value to check base, use script alredy to compare betweens two equip

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post Oct 30 2017, 20:21
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 30 2017, 15:19) *

70.85 base attack, 9.22 base spell damage.
Just hover your mouse over the stat you want to see the base value.


I play on smartphone, that's why I never saw it...
Well, it is a pretty lame roll... Does this weapon worth soulfuse? I want to soulfuse some elemental weapon and level it to level 10 to get void. Exquisite is the highest 250 soul fuse... Should I try to keeping level up and try a 500 soul fuse?

Thanks
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post Oct 30 2017, 20:23
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QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 30 2017, 18:03) *

I tried to understand the formula on wiki, but I am missing something... Where weapons levels goes?
Values ranges: attack 68.74. - 82.3 - elemental range : 8.41 - 9.62
My weapon.
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/129578176/cd3efb5e81

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling
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post Oct 30 2017, 21:18
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 30 2017, 16:05) *

Wiki range value of Leg/Per is the base to calculate that % in the script
by exemplanations (  ̄ー ̄)φ__


too long didn't into readings ヽ(°〇°)ノ hoover over value to check base, use script alredy to compare betweens two equip


ouch! Quite long! Thank you for your time and patience!
Studying time now!
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post Oct 30 2017, 21:31
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I play on smartphone, that's why I never saw it...
Well, it is a pretty lame roll... Does this weapon worth soulfuse? I want to soulfuse some elemental weapon and level it to level 10 to get void. Exquisite is the highest 250 soul fuse... Should I try to keeping level up and try a 500 soul fuse?

Thanks

A soul fragment is the same as 1k credits. 250 fragments = 250k credits.

Instead of falling into the trap most seem to have of trying to think of soul fragments as some different kind of currency, just treat them as credits. Most of them will probably come from random encounters, but just think of random encounters as giving you 5k credits often (in addiiton to some amount of real credits).

Ask yourself: is it worth spending 250k credits to make your weapon scale up with you as you level up? Base stats determine that. If it has pretty high base stats, then it will be better than another exquisite weapon you find with lower base stats at level 200. You're spending 250k credits to make the game forget that the weapon is level 40, and always be the same level as you.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144141744/2f9bae16af This longsword is in my inventory right now (I haven't gotten around to sending it to the bazaar yet). It has much worse base damage than yours. So your sword would be better than it when you get to the level of this sword (not too surprising since my link is superior and yours is exquisite, but the base damage is what matters here).

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144167177/1f5f485b0e This sword is in the bazaar for me. It's level 438. It has higher base damage than yours. So even if your sword became level 438, it would do less damage than this one.

So, the benefit you're getting by soulfusing is that you don't need to buy a new sword to replace the one you have already. You have to decide if the 250k credits is worth it compared to spending money buying upgrades every so many levels. If you don't soulfuse, the level 40 sword is going to do less damage than a level 100 sword, even if the 100 sword has worse base damage. But how much will that level 100 sword cost? (there are lots for free in FreeShop, so nothing). What about at 150? 200? 250? etc. Or, every 30 levels if you follow the wiki's advice. Or every 100 levels if you're a bit lazy and don't want to keep upgrading all the time.

That's how you decide how worth it is. Treat soul fragments as 1k credits. Yes you get some for free, and they're pretty much only used for soulfusion. But you will encounter cool weapons if you play the game long enough, and you'll want to spend a bunch on fusing things. So your demand on soul fragments will be higher than your supply of them unless you're especially conservative. And if you ever find yourself with a piece of equipment that you want to soulfuse and don't have enough fragments, then you will need to buy more from the bazaar, or hold off on soulfusion (which is itself also still a cost).
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post Oct 30 2017, 23:51
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I have 4000+ soul fragments now and still never soulfused anything. Someone please give me something to soulfuse haha. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 31 2017, 00:47
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Have nothing good enough ( ‾́ ◡ ‾́ ) and lost that one in auction (。T ω T。)
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post Oct 31 2017, 04:16
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im using toolbox script and have a problem

when yes to all arena in one page,

i got sliced screen

what should i do??

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post Oct 31 2017, 04:20
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That is weird. If you click the start can you enter in that lvl 140 arena ( ̄□ ̄」)?
Problem started just now?
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post Oct 31 2017, 04:57
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 31 2017, 11:20) *

That is weird. If you click the start can you enter in that lvl 140 arena ( ̄□ ̄」)?
Problem started just now?

nope if i click the start, i enter in the lv1-100arena

i recognized the problem yesterday

beacause i just started HV, i've used only lv1-100 arenas

and if i want to use lv100- arena, i have to turn off one-page option
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post Oct 31 2017, 05:06
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QUOTE(paruri @ Oct 31 2017, 05:16) *

im using toolbox script and have a problem

when yes to all arena in one page,

i got sliced screen

what should i do??

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According to your screenshot I can see (barely, but still) that script successfully loads the second page (see that strokes at the right?), but for some reasons the width is not gonna descresed.

What is your browser and its version?
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post Oct 31 2017, 06:05
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 31 2017, 12:06) *

According to your screenshot I can see (barely, but still) that script successfully loads the second page (see that strokes at the right?), but for some reasons the width is not gonna descresed.

What is your browser and its version?


Yes you're right. I can see the lines, but still can't enter the arenas

And reading your reply , i checked my browser. I was using chrome standard, old version, so updated, but still doesn't

work right
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 31 2017, 03:06) *

According to your screenshot I can see (barely, but still) that script successfully loads the second page (see that strokes at the right?), but for some reasons the width is not gonna descresed.

What is your browser and its version?

[i.loli.net] https://i.loli.net/2017/10/31/59f802a7a7e04.png
having some similar problem using Mozilla Firefox 56.0.2 + Greasemonkey
toolbox version 1.0.4
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post Oct 31 2017, 07:43
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 31 2017, 12:06) *

According to your screenshot I can see (barely, but still) that script successfully loads the second page (see that strokes at the right?), but for some reasons the width is not gonna descresed.

What is your browser and its version?



QUOTE(TakanashiRi @ Oct 31 2017, 13:59) *

[i.loli.net] https://i.loli.net/2017/10/31/59f802a7a7e04.png
having some similar problem using Mozilla Firefox 56.0.2 + Greasemonkey
toolbox version 1.0.4


My bad...

i only checked the custom fonts box but didn't adjust size, features.

after adjusting them according to troubleshooting all arenas are shown:)

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