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post Oct 29 2017, 01:08
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Jul 15 2010, 02:01) *

Base action speed = 100 + AGI / 3
Boost from Haste (spell) = 20 + Supportive prof / 2.5
Boost from Haste (Scroll) = 100
Action speed = max (base action speed + boost from Haste, 200)

Base action time = 300 - action speed

Time multiplier = action specific multiplier * X-action multiplier
Some action specific values are:
Normal attack = 1.0
Defend = 1.0
Magic Missile = 1.1
I haven't looked at any others.

X-action multiplier = .75 if player has the appropriate X-* ability, 1.0 otherwise
Burden penalty = (Burden - 20) / 2 if Burden > 20, 0 otherwise
Action time = (base action time * time multiplier) + Burden penalty

According to this the burden would affect casting speed too ヽ( ̄д ̄; )ノ=3=3=3 even though somethings seem to have changed
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post Oct 29 2017, 01:10
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 29 2017, 03:09) *

Kinda against logics ( ^^) had radiant underwear on that times?

I'd bet defence as the reason.I won't need a lot cure so wave won't reduce a lot turn,but 4eco can save me 40-60 mana potions(and also save 40-60 turns).
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post Oct 29 2017, 01:31
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QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 29 2017, 00:29) *

1)I read somewhere that 10 post per day = xp x 2

uhu. every now and then this hoax appears again. may i know where did you read it exactly?
also, as other users pointed out, admin reduced it to one post per month.

QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 29 2017, 00:29) *

This old post told about a place called "spamhome" or something like that, a place to fill your post count. I did not find this subforum. Does it even exist?

spamhaus, yep. it does exist.
but you don't need to look for it.

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2) About other doubt of mine. I asked on other post about haste with 100+ burden. I still don't know if it works or not. For me seems good enough , for now, to use heavy armor and 2 handed because I almost only play rare encounters on max possible difficult , so even if my mana finish quickly, it will be only one fight. But I dunno if the haste is being a waste of time or is working with that much of burden...

i remember i answered you... and with me other two users.
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post Oct 29 2017, 01:33
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What's the priority stats to look at when buying a Staff. Saw a High MDB but low EDB LARD reach 2.5M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

MDB >>> EDB > PROF or MDB >>> PROF > EDB?
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post Oct 29 2017, 01:40
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So recently got this on a drop: Legendary Shocking Rapier of Slaughter

I am currently using this: Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter

I'm looking at the base stats for ADB, and the Magnificent base is higher than the Legendary Base, and the Ethereal Prefix is awesome. Should I keep using my magnificent? I took a look at the equipment ranges and my Magnificent Rapier is higher than the max on the wiki. Is it because it is soulbound? If so, any way to see how they compare?
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post Oct 29 2017, 01:44
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QUOTE(guppieman @ Oct 28 2017, 21:40) *
I took a look at the equipment ranges and my Magnificent Rapier is higher than the max on the wiki. Is it because it is soulbound? If so, any way to see how they compare?

Rapier's ADB is above max because it was upgraded (^• ω •^). When upgrading base value goes up, the wiki value is for fresh (〜 ̄▽ ̄)〜 equip.

Soulbounding does not increase base just scales to lvl
Doing some complicateds ....φ(︶▽︶)φ.... calculations (just using spread-cheat though (*/▽\*)) your base value for Mag Rapier is 38.99. It is 39 vs 46

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post Oct 29 2017, 01:48
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QUOTE(guppieman @ Oct 29 2017, 01:40) *

the Magnificent base is higher than the Legendary Base

the mag with 5 forge levels is higher than the vanilla legendary, you meant? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(guppieman @ Oct 29 2017, 01:40) *

and the Ethereal Prefix is awesome.

if you tae the Legendary and IW10 it, you'll earn the same effect of Ethereal prefix

QUOTE(guppieman @ Oct 29 2017, 01:40) *

I took a look at the equipment ranges and my Magnificent Rapier is higher than the max on the wiki. Is it because it is soulbound? If so, any way to see how they compare?

no, it's because it's forged.
if you want to compare them you can install HV Toolbox script, it will give you infos about the percentile range of certain rolls.

or using the forge optimizer spreadsheets in my sig (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 29 2017, 02:17
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Oct 28 2017, 21:01) *

adell-disgaea

if you're worried that your clearing speed of an arena would be taking to too much time
because you have a lot of burden, no it isnt related to burden or anything

it's about your ping if you got a blazing 3t/s even with shit equipment you'll
be very very faster than someone who has godlike equipment but has 1.3t/s


well, that explain a LOT! I am playing on my work, on board of a merchant vessel. My ping is usually around 3 seconds per click...

You mean that this game can be faster than 1 click per second? This would make those 100 rounds way more doable than with 3 secs per click...

Thank you! When I disembark I will play at home and check the difference ☺
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post Oct 29 2017, 02:18
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Doing shitty calculations (ノ*°▽°*)
I need to know what is the expected base INT and WIS of some lvl 500 mage?

Ops, have it on another threads

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post Oct 29 2017, 02:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 28 2017, 21:31) *

uhu. every now and then this hoax appears again. may i know where did you read it exactly?
also, as other users pointed out, admin reduced it to one post per month.
spamhaus, yep. it does exist.
but you don't need to look for it.
i remember i answered you... and with me other two users.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4983600


sorry, I jumped from one post to another gathering information , so I have no clue where I saw about the 10 x post/day...

About haste. Indeed some people answered me , but I was still confused about if works or not. the main advice was to change to light armor, but I like the warrior idea. In my mind I saw my char with full armor so I will try keep this unless I hit a wall XD. (Thanks God I did want a mage for low level )

thanks everybody for answer!
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post Oct 29 2017, 02:33
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QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 28 2017, 17:17) *

well, that explain a LOT! I am playing on my work, on board of a merchant vessel. My ping is usually around 3 seconds per click...

You mean that this game can be faster than 1 click per second? This would make those 100 rounds way more doable than with 3 secs per click...

Thank you! When I disembark I will play at home and check the difference ☺


Yup. The game is throttled at about four turns per second. I usually manage around 2-2.5 turns per second.

I couldn't imagine even bothering to play if I had to deal wit 1 turn every 3 second or slower.
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post Oct 29 2017, 03:33
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What are the most effective arenas for grinding xp? I can do IWBTH everything up to End of Days.
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post Oct 29 2017, 03:46
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QUOTE(-Shun- @ Oct 28 2017, 21:33) *
MDB >>> EDB > PROF or MDB >>> PROF > EDB?

magic damages = (base MDB)*(1+EDB/100)*(1+hathperkbonus)
"base MDB" is not equips MDB, is log of thing + int*2+wis things things all sum with staff proff*0,5? plus the equip MDB

longs histories shorts ( ̄ω ̄) doing long calculations with full peerless radiant set, lvl500,don't remember INT/WIS, max staff prof, EDB > MDB at forge 0 for same staff type (PHKH > PHKD) with no potencies, but not a huge differents in that case so at forge maximum the MDB will be betters then destructions better than elemental (⊃。•́‿•̀。)⊃━✿✿✿✿✿✿
did no calculation back them for not radiants though neither considerings counters (`⌒*)O-(`⌒´Q) so info is unreliable (also I'm unreliable (≧▽≦) but mage ppl said sames)

QUOTE(Himmelreich @ Oct 28 2017, 23:33) *

What are the most effective arenas for grinding xp? I can do IWBTH everything up to End of Days.

Effective in timings? ฅ(•ㅅ•❀)ฅ because End of Days takes too logns compared to previous one lvl 100 TTaTT higher lvl multiplies more exp tho' see how much timing you spent in the end screen and do EXP/min calculations.

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post Oct 29 2017, 08:11
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Thank you. One more thing: right now I'm doing 1H/Light. Is there any benefit to making a new persona and changing either one of those things right now, or should I just stick with my rapier/force shield combo?
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post Oct 29 2017, 08:13
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QUOTE(Himmelreich @ Oct 29 2017, 09:33) *

What are the most effective arenas for grinding xp? I can do IWBTH everything up to End of Days.

Top three:To Kill a God>The Trio and the Tree>Eve of Death
Easy caculation,monster number&EXP mod are regular in arena.
Kinda depends on your situation,you may need more turns to clear a round with more monsters but basically that's the order.

To Kill a God have most monsters average every round,and SGs have less than non-SGs.
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post Oct 29 2017, 08:16
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QUOTE(-Shun- @ Oct 29 2017, 00:33) *

What's the priority stats to look at when buying a Staff. Saw a High MDB but low EDB LARD reach 2.5M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

MDB >>> EDB > PROF or MDB >>> PROF > EDB?



That price was a big surprise to me. I would have expected 10m, and still would have thought it was cheap. It's a very good LARD.

Also there was a mid-range Leg Shocking Willow of Destruction in same auction. 600k. In.cre.da.ble.

Has mage become cheap? Phase prices are still high! Why are matching staves given away for free?

QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 29 2017, 01:18) *

Doing shitty calculations (ノ*°▽°*)
I need to know what is the expected base INT and WIS of some lvl 500 mage?

Ops, have it on another threads



My INT/WIS:

577 + 49 + 738(slighly less for WIS)

So I expect at LV 500: 580 + 50 + 740 roughly
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:19
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 29 2017, 08:16) *
Has mage become cheap? Phase prices are still high! Why are matching staves given away for free?

Likely. Or elemental mage is not as fancy as they're used to be. Too bad it's not Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction. Otherwise, I will spend my entire budget to get it (although it is still very small indeed. But hey, the thought of spending your all should count for something, right?)
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post Oct 29 2017, 09:56
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 29 2017, 08:19) *

Likely. Or elemental mage is not as fancy as they're used to be. Too bad it's not Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction. Otherwise, I will spend my entire budget to get it (although it is still very small indeed. But hey, the thought of spending your all should count for something, right?)


By the way, did you know that elemental mage will outperform that LDWSD? Only after you become very high level with full forge there is a slight benefit of Dark. But I think you overestimate the Dark Side a bit.
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post Oct 29 2017, 10:11
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 29 2017, 14:16) *

That price was a big surprise to me. I would have expected 10m, and still would have thought it was cheap. It's a very good LARD.

Also there was a mid-range Leg Shocking Willow of Destruction in same auction. 600k. In.cre.da.ble.

Has mage become cheap? Phase prices are still high! Why are matching staves given away for free?

Only top-grade Phase prices are still high,you can get 50k phases with near max edb at 50k and charged/radiant phases less than 500k on auction if you wait long enough,and top-grade staff prices are still high,too.

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 29 2017, 15:56) *

By the way, did you know that elemental mage will outperform that LDWSD? Only after you become very high level with full forge there is a slight benefit of Dark. But I think you overestimate the Dark Side a bit.

Most weakness for holy/dark mage is low defences,but if only clear arena and don't touch fest then holy/dark will outperform than element(most in SG).
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post Oct 29 2017, 11:20
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QUOTE(adell-disgaea @ Oct 29 2017, 01:23) *

sorry, I jumped from one post to another gathering information , so I have no clue where I saw about the 10 x post/day...

In case you remember it, you're welcome.

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I like the warrior idea. In my mind I saw my char with full armor so I will try keep this unless I hit a wall

You know, you can play whatever way you prefer. But if you're looking for a more efficient way, there's a chance that kind of warrior will be more useful later on.

QUOTE(Cryosite @ Oct 29 2017, 01:33) *

I couldn't imagine even bothering to play if I had to deal wit 1 turn every 3 second or slower.

Oh, I had to do it regularly, prior to 0.85 patch.

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Has mage become cheap? Phase prices are still high! Why are matching staves given away for free?

More likely, buyers are becoming more and more finicky. They will continue to wait for the endgame piece and will let many good pieces floating around. Incidentally, the same pieces that you can see mass-purchased and re-sold at 4~5x their auction value. Just ask a certain guy here who recently purchased a surtr set. I invite him to check how many of those pieces were bought for a mere 50k and to point out if i'm wrong.
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