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MDB is really better (・_・(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)?
Putting in the spell damage calculation formula on the wiki when I was looking at staffs to buy it always seemed that the EDB suffix always added more than a comparable of destruction (◎ ◎)ゞ

You either forgot to factor in forging MDB to 100 or you did the calculations with a fully forged radiant build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

You either forgot to factor in forging MDB to 100 or you did the calculations with a fully forged radiant build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I used 乁( • ω •乁) Scremaz's calculator.
Comparing a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall. Putting values until it hit the wiki's base then throwing the results on spell damage calculation ....φ(︶▽︶) For the same everything else, just the MDB and EDB being different, the first gave ~14800 and the second ~17000 for the T1 (ノ ˘_˘)ノ　ζ|||ζ　ζ|||ζ　ζ|||ζ Didn't counted the INT/WIS/Counter-resist/other stuff though so the difference is there (￣▽￣*)ゞ Also didn't know if they were the better staves possible btw

This post has been edited by reality_marble: Oct 18 2017, 17:04

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

All Rich 1H people does Pfudor DWD under 25m
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This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Oct 18 2017, 16:56

It takes me 3 hours so don't worry. My turns/second cannot exceed 0.7 until I change browser or PC. If using a different computer I think it's maybe over 2, like other people.

Comparing a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall.
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You are changing both the suffix and the type of staff (oak for example has lower prof but higher edb compared to katalox).
It will never be a fair comparison.
You should compare a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Heimdall if you want to check MDB suffix vs EDB suffix.
Also the results should factor in a whole mage set since magic damage is MDB * (1 + EDB / 100 ).
So 100 EDB from staff when you have 300 from phases and 100 EDB from staff when you have 0 from phases give a totally different result.

So 100 EDB from staff when you have 300 from phases and 100 EDB from staff when you have 0 from phases give a totally different result.

That is it (*/▽＼*) back to the drawing board

All Rich 1H people does Pfudor DWD under 25m
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And some poor mages can do it in ~15 minutes

And some poor mages can do it in ~15 minutes

~15 minutes is quite good for elemental mage. I don't consider my set to be a poor mage's set. It's the Legendary Set of the Over-Spender. I't all Prada, you know

Also the results should factor in a whole mage set since magic damage is MDB * (1 + EDB / 100 ).

uhu. fair enough, among other things it's a function of two variables, sure...

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

27 min, but I'm poor

27 min, but I'm poor

But aren't you an user of the Two Heavens As One ヘ(>_<ヘ)☆ ＼_((( ￣□)_／ ☆ (ﾉ>_<)ﾉ Sword Style ?

What is your current set ( ・∀・)¤=[]:::::>

But aren't you an user of the Two Heavens As One ヘ(>_<ヘ)☆ ＼_((( ￣□)_／ ☆ (ﾉ>_<)ﾉ Sword Style ?

That's right. For that reason I had to play dual wielding as well.
I don't use 1H style (too much).

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

If the internet is good, it will take me 35 minutes (with 1H). And if it is bad, between 45 and 50 minutes.

Most likely, your internet is not very good, that is, it does not have a stable connection.

I cleared for the first time T&T with 1H. It took me 11:30 min, 2:20 min more than when I do it with my favorite style. Is it too slow? How much time do you guys need to clear that arena with 1H?

This post has been edited by lololo16: Oct 18 2017, 22:00

I cleared for the first time T&T with 1H. It took me 11:30 min, 2:20 min more than when I do it with my favorite style. Is it too slow? How much time do you guys need to clear that arena with 1H?

13 minutes (with 1H). But since my internet is unstable, I can not always repeat that time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

13 minutes (with 1H). But since my internet is unstable, I can not always repeat that time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But you aren't taking into account the time you lose by playing without scripts

How much time do you guys need to clear that arena with 1H?

Around 8 minutes last time I checked.

~15 minutes is quite good for elemental mage. I don't consider my set to be a poor mage's set. It's the Legendary Set of the Over-Spender. I't all Prada, you know

And I've probably got the Set of the Under-Spender since I needed less than 15M + 2 lottieries + 1 self drop to get to

(well, with ~300M of upgrades and perks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif))
(anyway time is very bad way to measure the performance of a style, total turns is a so much better metric)

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Oct 18 2017, 23:07

But you aren't taking into account the time you lose by playing without scripts

This is true. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

But we will only know the difference if:

1-) I start using scripts (when I reach level 500 I think about it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

2-) Someone else play without scripts and without Innate Arcana, and calculate the percentage difference of loss of time and turns.

Around 8 minutes last time I checked.

This will be my goal. Thanks

Someone else play without scripts and without Innate Arcana

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Someone else play without scripts and without Innate Arcana

I suppose that past a certain level one would get insulted for being in that case.