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Newbie question.

What is so special about making Prof factor 0.68 for elements and 1 dor holy? (as per Advice_Advanced).
or why make it 0.68?
what will be losses/drawbacks if it stays at eg. 5.8 ?

then bad-ass monsters are better at that element than you. So killing takes longer.

Newbie question.

What is so special about making Prof factor 0.68 for elements and 1 for holy? (as per Advice_Advanced).
or why make it 0.68?
what will be losses/drawbacks if it stays at eg. 5.8 ?

Uhh, it's pretty much impossible to have proficiency factor of 5.8. Proficiency factor, although calculated using monster level, can be hazarded with your level.

(Your effective proficiency/Your Level) - 1

At high proficiency factor, you got high counter-resist bonus so that your attack spell became efficient. At prof factor ~1, your spell became irresistible, more or less. At 0.68, I think people found this is minimum effective irresistability (hahaha, is that a word?). Below that, your spells get resisted so much you'd better off playing melee.

Uhh, it's pretty much impossible to have proficiency factor of 5.8. Proficiency factor, although calculated using monster level, can be hazarded with your level.

pretty sure he meant .58 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Newbie question.

What is so special about making Prof factor 0.68 for elements and 1 for holy? (as per Advice_Advanced).
or why make it 0.68?
what will be losses/drawbacks if it stays at eg. 0.58 ?

Most monsters that are at max PL have about 68% resistance to all elements that they aren't inherently weak to. Some go higher, such as to 75%, but the cost to get them there would come at the expense of PABs like endurence=HP. So they'd wind up easy to kill even if they resist a little bit.

Having .68 prof factor negates the most common amount of resistance, letting your spells do the max possible damage despite the resistance.

In staffs whats is more important MDB %, or EDB %.

(i mean if there are two staffs, 1 has 85%MDB and 0%EDB and 2nd has 0%MDB and 85%EDB. would would be prefered?)

In staffs whats is more important MDB %, or EDB %.

(i mean if there are two staffs, 1 has 85%MDB and 0%EDB and 2nd has 0%MDB and 85%EDB. would would be prefered?)

I think MDB. You can make up for low EDB with some phase pieces.

In staffs whats is more important MDB %, or EDB %.

(i mean if there are two staffs, 1 has 85%MDB and 0%EDB and 2nd has 0%MDB and 85%EDB. would would be prefered?)

If "of destruction" MDB (by a lot).
If "of *EDB suffix*" EDB (slightly).
If "of focus/crap prof" MDB.
If "of elementalist/demon-field/heaven-sent" Prof >= MDB >> EDB.

If "of destruction" MDB (by a lot).
If "of *EDB suffix*" EDB (slightly).
If "of focus/crap prof" MDB.
If "of elementalist/demon-field/heaven-sent" Prof >= MDB >> EDB.

seems to hint that usually MDB is preferred, uh? it thought that at least matching EDB staffs EDB was more important...

seems to hint that usually MDB is preferred, uh? it thought that at least matching EDB staffs EDB was more important...

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It is, that's why I said If "of *EDB suffix*" EDB (slightly)..
It's probably around 40% more important or something like that.
I probably shouldn't have added slightly.

MDB is really better (・_・;)?
Putting in the spell damage calculation formula on the wiki when I was looking at staffs to buy it always seemed that the EDB suffix always added more than a comparable of destruction (◎ ◎)ゞ

MDB is really better (・_・(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)?
Putting in the spell damage calculation formula on the wiki when I was looking at staffs to buy it always seemed that the EDB suffix always added more than a comparable of destruction (◎ ◎)ゞ

You either forgot to factor in forging MDB to 100 or you did the calculations with a fully forged radiant build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

You either forgot to factor in forging MDB to 100 or you did the calculations with a fully forged radiant build (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I used 乁( • ω •乁) Scremaz's calculator.
Comparing a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall. Putting values until it hit the wiki's base then throwing the results on spell damage calculation ....φ(︶▽︶) For the same everything else, just the MDB and EDB being different, the first gave ~14800 and the second ~17000 for the T1 (ノ ˘_˘)ノ　ζ|||ζ　ζ|||ζ　ζ|||ζ Didn't counted the INT/WIS/Counter-resist/other stuff though so the difference is there (￣▽￣*)ゞ Also didn't know if they were the better staves possible btw

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DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

All Rich 1H people does Pfudor DWD under 25m
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This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Oct 18 2017, 16:56

It takes me 3 hours so don't worry. My turns/second cannot exceed 0.7 until I change browser or PC. If using a different computer I think it's maybe over 2, like other people.

Comparing a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall.
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You are changing both the suffix and the type of staff (oak for example has lower prof but higher edb compared to katalox).
It will never be a fair comparison.
You should compare a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction to a Peerless Hallowed Katalox Staff of Heimdall if you want to check MDB suffix vs EDB suffix.
Also the results should factor in a whole mage set since magic damage is MDB * (1 + EDB / 100 ).
So 100 EDB from staff when you have 300 from phases and 100 EDB from staff when you have 0 from phases give a totally different result.

So 100 EDB from staff when you have 300 from phases and 100 EDB from staff when you have 0 from phases give a totally different result.

That is it (*/▽＼*) back to the drawing board

All Rich 1H people does Pfudor DWD under 25m
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And some poor mages can do it in ~15 minutes

And some poor mages can do it in ~15 minutes

~15 minutes is quite good for elemental mage. I don't consider my set to be a poor mage's set. It's the Legendary Set of the Over-Spender. I't all Prada, you know

Also the results should factor in a whole mage set since magic damage is MDB * (1 + EDB / 100 ).

uhu. fair enough, among other things it's a function of two variables, sure...

DwD last night took me 1hour and half ( ; ω ; ) How much the non-maging rich people take to finish that?

27 min, but I'm poor