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Oct 11 2017, 13:53
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Deathglass
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Oct 10 2017, 14:34)  from 150 to 200, average gear is enough for 1H/heavy. 200-250, more like superior gear, but you should start having enough income to get pieces like that from the bazaar.
By the time you need legendary gear to do 1h/heavy, you'll have income from GF arenas to get you respectable equipment.
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well into the 300s, my stats were more like STR - DEX - END - highest, AGI - WIS - 10 levels from highest and INT about 80% of level, more or less.
You don't need fancy stat breakouts until later.
Mu (.) (.) y
Yeah, I'm mostly using average, and it's not enough for heavy 1h. There's a huge damage difference between IWBTH and PFUDOR; basically can't survive PFUDOR arenas at all.
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Oct 11 2017, 14:22
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Scremaz
Group: Gold Star Club
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which PL for mobs to be regularly scanned? looking at hvlist is quite hard with all those red lines, but 1100 perhaps?
This post has been edited by Scremaz: Oct 11 2017, 14:26
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Oct 11 2017, 17:48
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f4tal
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Joined: 10-January 13

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Tenboro allowed as to use multi-person account for testing/debug/writhing-guides purpose. That account has all functional as usual account however MoogleMail is DISABLED. The one problem is that account may be leveled as any other account and there is no way we can reset its level or cap it, however we always can create another multi-person account with Tenboro's permission and start from a new. To prevent abusing or other nuances I will give password to Scremaz & DJNoni. If you need that account to check some formulas or prove some concepts - mail them. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ohh, and son of blackjack is prohibited idea, sorry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 19:04
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kukrak
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 353
Joined: 4-April 10

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Is hentaiverse slow today, or is my isp fucking over with me ? MY speedtests results are more or less normal and browsing web/youtube and so on just is just fine?
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Oct 11 2017, 19:22
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ALL_MIGHT
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 14-October 16

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QUOTE(kukrak @ Oct 11 2017, 22:34)  Is hentaiverse slow today, or is my isp fucking over with me ? MY speedtests results are more or less normal and browsing web/youtube and so on just is just fine?
On news page One of our hosts has scheduled emergency network maintenance tomorrow, October 11th, between 0400 and 0600 UTC. Thi… [t.co] https://t.co/2zlmDV0sV7
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Oct 11 2017, 19:24
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kukrak
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yes i saw that, but it aslo said that it should take 15 minutes or something, in which i naively believed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 20:13
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Ass Spanker
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Currently I have scavenger 25, lotd 11, quartermaster 14, archaeologist 6. Should I train more?
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Oct 11 2017, 20:20
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Noni
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 11 2017, 20:13)  Currently I have scavenger 25, lotd 11, quartermaster 14, archaeologist 6. Should I train more?
Do you have millions lying around doing nothing useful? Then yes. Else no. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 20:37
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 11 2017, 20:20)  Do you have millions lying around doing nothing useful? Then yes. Else no. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have millions of loan lying around (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) My current goal is DD1 so I don't exactly have many to spare.
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Oct 11 2017, 20:39
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f4tal
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 11 2017, 21:13)  Currently I have scavenger 25, lotd 11, quartermaster 14, archaeologist 6. Should I train more? 1. Only quartermaster is worth to be levelled up *if only* you are doing a GF per day. If you are doing only all-arena-run - don't bother then. 2. Archaeologist gives you too little bonus (you have 0,2% chance to get Artifact with Archaeologist 0 and 0,4% with Archaeologist 10) - does this double make so much difference? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 3. LOTD is even more useless with maxedout one you have following odds: - 6,25% that superior will be rare
- 12,5% that exquisite will be rare
- 25% that magnificent will be rare
- 50% that legendary and peerless will be rare
Spending millions on 50% chance that your equipment, that dropped in 5% chance of all drops which in turn happen with 20% (let's round it up!), will be rare - sounds not cool at all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Better go buy good equipment and materials - it is way more effective, or buy few supportive hath perks (if haven't done it yet) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by f4tal: Oct 11 2017, 20:40
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Oct 11 2017, 20:43
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 11 2017, 20:39)  1. Only quartermaster is worth to be levelled up *if only* you are doing a GF per day. If you are doing only all-arena-run - don't bother then. 2. Archaeologist gives you too little bonus (you have 0,2% chance to get Artifact with Archaeologist 0 and 0,4% with Archaeologist 10) - does this double make so much difference? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 3. LOTD is even more useless with maxedout one you have following odds: - 6,25% that superior will be rare
- 12,5% that exquisite will be rare
- 25% that magnificent will be rare
- 50% that legendary and peerless will be rare
Spending millions on 50% chance that your equipment, that dropped in 5% chance of all drops which in turn happen with 20% (let's round it up!), will be rare - sounds not cool at all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Better go buy good equipment and materials - it is way more effective, or buy few supportive hath perks (if haven't done it yet) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Actually I see Archaeologist as the most profitable investment. That's why I put in millions to get it to level 6. So I guess I should save up credits to buy phazons for now.
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Oct 11 2017, 20:58
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 11 2017, 20:13)  Currently I have scavenger 25, lotd 11, quartermaster 14, archaeologist 6. Should I train more?
Imo in the end they are all worth it. I may some of them to take a while to pay off. But if you play for long enough they allways will. I mean i like it to believe that i just got my End game rapier, because it did trained questermaster so much. And let us be honest, in the end all you need is just a single good drop, for all those training to pay off. Or to put it simple what i think about those trainings. If you can spend the money, you dont expect them to pay off right away and plan still to play in a year or even longer, they are worth it and you should train them more. If the answers to those questions are no, dont bother because they are not worth it for you.
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Oct 11 2017, 22:30
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kukrak
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@Screamaz, I am a litte bit curios, why is the sonofblackjaq or whatever was the trophy-low-lvl-dump idea called against the rules, or i mean which one specifically? Seemed like a good one to me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 22:38
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f4tal
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 11 2017, 21:43)  Actually I see Archaeologist as the most profitable investment. That's why I put in millions to get it to level 6. So I guess I should save up credits to buy phazons for now.
Hmm, how much last Archeologist costs? 8,000,000? So, I need 80 ED to pay it off. With 20% to get ED, I need 400 artifacts to pay off. If I will get 7 artifacts from arenas, then I need 58 days to pay off. Not that much. In theory. In reality, however, I shrined 37 artifacts in past week and got only 5 ED (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have all trainings maxed out, but last Archeologist. With such concept Quartermaster is way more profitable - just play a lot and pray for PHOH (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 11 2017, 21:58)  Imo in the end they are all worth it. I may some of them to take a while to pay off. But if you play for long enough they allways will. I mean i like it to believe that i just got my End game rapier, because it did trained questermaster so much. And let us be honest, in the end all you need is just a single good drop, for all those training to pay off.
Or to put it simple what i think about those trainings. If you can spend the money, you dont expect them to pay off right away and plan still to play in a year or even longer, they are worth it and you should train them more. If the answers to those questions are no, dont bother because they are not worth it for you.
In the end, yes, everything is worthy, but in short-term run, it is better to upgrade your build, IMHO. Of cource if we are talking about someone who is doing GF per day, then all drops will be good, no jokes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Ahh, still waiting for good drop... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by f4tal: Oct 11 2017, 22:45
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Oct 11 2017, 22:52
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(kukrak @ Oct 11 2017, 22:30)  @Screamaz, I am a litte bit curios, why is the sonofblackjaq or whatever was the trophy-low-lvl-dump idea called against the rules, or i mean which one specifically? Seemed like a good one to me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) because you would've been circumventing some limits of the game and abusing the WTS system. i mean, let's say you're lv500. you can drop/earn from shrine lv500 items, which notoriously have certain standards to be considered appetible by the market and can attract players down to lv, uh... 390? 400? whatever - but nonetheless, this is what you can earn by yourself. now, let's say you suddenly can have access to lv300 items: not only the standards would be (considerably!) lower, you'll also be able to attract a way bigger audience (from lv200 to lv500?) - but in a way that wouldn't be fair neither for other lv500, nor for other lv300. if you prefer a tl;dr, admin was asked whether it was legit or not, and his answer was "No." (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 23:03
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kukrak
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 11 2017, 22:52)  because you would've been circumventing some limits of the game and abusing the WTS system. i mean, let's say you're lv500. you can drop/earn from shrine lv500 items, which notoriously have certain standards to be considered appetible by the market and can attract players down to lv, uh... 390? 400? whatever - but nonetheless, this is what you can earn by yourself. now, let's say you suddenly can have access to lv300 items: not only the standards would be (considerably!) lower, you'll also be able to attract a way bigger audience (from lv200 to lv500?) - but in a way that wouldn't be fair neither for other lv500, nor for other lv300. if you prefer a tl;dr, admin was asked whether it was legit or not, and his answer was "No." (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) When you put it like this, sure, i agree with that. Too bad for the sonofblackaq then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 11 2017, 23:06
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BlueWaterSplash
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Sounds like son of blackjac is no go for now, I'm grateful for the efforts that were made. And hey, I'd say a new testing account is a good compromise.
From what I imagine, there are some honesty concerns with allowing random users like myself to be the host for son of blackjac. I was able to reduce these through observations and rules, but not eliminate them completely. However in turn, it may have been considered to create a new account like FreeShop or testing-account to serve this purpose and remove the honesty concern.
But it was (and rightfully so, in my opinion) judged that such a special permission is unnatural and will disrupt the inherent balance of this game.
I wasn't aware until just yesterday (FreeShop's recent posts) that FreeShop itself served a partial purpose of son of blackjac. However I'll point out that FreeShop's current shrinking power benefits mostly guys who are level 40, leaving a gap in the most hungry level 200~300 realm. This is also a range where FreeShop's offerings are weak due to its current rules (which I agree with).
I still think son of blackjac is not an impossible idea but it has to be implemented in the true way. There has to be a rich guy (level 200 or 250) who stops playing and then buys all the trophies himself, to redeem and shop himself. This has no honesty problem and requires no aid from anyone so it has a greater chance of being allowed. In theory, we could all donate credits to the host to start him up.
In actuality, I hadn't predicted the son of blackjac idea to be overwhelmingly popular, even if everything went perfectly. Blackjac would always have two advantages, his hath perk, plus the extremely rich gear for trophies is probably staff. But for that one, it does not matter the level at which you redeem it, the worth is probably the same.
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Oct 11 2017, 23:09
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KitsuneAbby
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Scremaz, lemme explain it a more practical way. => If levels were added to equipments, it's not so that players have to find a workaround to continue having Legs at low levels.
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Oct 11 2017, 23:33
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 11 2017, 23:06)  From what I imagine, there are some honesty concerns with allowing random users like myself to be the host for son of blackjac. I was able to reduce these through observations and rules, but not eliminate them completely. However in turn, it may have been considered to create a new account like FreeShop or testing-account to serve this purpose and remove the honesty concern.
it's not like we have a problem with you in particular. it's only that the idea on its own is quite fishy and exploitable... QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 11 2017, 23:06)  I still think son of blackjac is not an impossible idea but it has to be implemented in the true way.
... but it'd be really appreciated if we stopped speaking about it for a while (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 11 2017, 23:09)  Scremaz, lemme explain it a more practical way. => If levels were added to equipments, it's not so that players have to find a workaround to continue having Legs at low levels.
that as well, sure. i don't even remember when i saw my first Legendary, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't as soon as today's standards.
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