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post Oct 6 2017, 06:48
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QUOTE(Draw99Gray @ Oct 5 2017, 19:31) *

Monsterbation has that function
Strongest([Cast(T3), Cast(T2), Cast(T1)])
Playing mage t's a serious improvement for people with low T/s like me (1,5 T/s)
Pfudor DwD with my 1H Heavy set takes me 6500t, while with holy mage it's 3000~3500t

So, using Monsterbation, what does a mage style typically look like?
How do you set up for imperil and Strongest()? I mean, obviously set your skills into the script's Strongest() function, but I mean do you bind Strongest() to a hotkey, then just imperil, move mouse to preferred targer, Strongest() hotkey? So one hand on hotkeys, one hand on mouse?
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post Oct 6 2017, 07:36
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Oct 6 2017, 06:48) *

So, using Monsterbation, what does a mage style typically look like?
How do you set up for imperil and Strongest()? I mean, obviously set your skills into the script's Strongest() function, but I mean do you bind Strongest() to a hotkey, then just imperil, move mouse to preferred targer, Strongest() hotkey? So one hand on hotkeys, one hand on mouse?


the settings are explained in the script itself. Best set-up is described as well:
- start round without hover,
-Left hand use shift + z to imperil while pointing at monster 2,
-then same for monster 5 and 8.
-Then press z and hover starts.

This is by far the safest option to cast imperil, as it is the only set-up that can stop the imperil in case of emergency.

And yep, clear time is faster than 1h. But it takes way more attention, and you need way more consumables so you'll need to shop regularly, and it cost way, way, way more credits.


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Got my second legendary holy-cloth drop, thinking seriously about changing to mage:
Legendary Charged Phase Cap of Heimdall
Legendary Ruby Phase Robe of Heimdall

Never played as a mage. What should I aim, itemwise, to build a holy mage? What staff, how many heaven-sent, and how many "of heimdall" gear?
And what about stat spread?



Don't go holy mage unless you have very good credit income (bounties, H@h or selling lots of gold stars). Sell those Heimdalls to get the credits for going mage. Read the wiki advice advance (see my sig) on guide for going mage.

Choose an element, is my advice. Look for a good staff, those are hard to find, and once you have that go for equip that matches that element. Just my advice, there are other ways.

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post Oct 6 2017, 07:58
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 5 2017, 22:36) *

the settings are explained in the script itself. Best set-up is described as well:
- start round without hover,
-Left hand use shift + z to imperil while pointing at monster 2,
-then same for monster 5 and 8.
-Then press z and hover starts.

This is by far the safest option to cast imperil, as it is the only set-up that can stop the imperil in case of emergency.


Well, with the new Dawn prof, I'll have prof in Cloth and Staff; With low difficulty setting and self-dropped gear, I'll test out mage style and the script.

I've read the in-script notation, but having not actually had a chance to experiment with it to see how those things work, I wasn't sure how to configure it for a mage. I tend to work things out better through trying than just reading someone else's description.

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hoverAction = Strongest([Cast('T3'), Cast('T2'), Cast('T1')]),


This would be the binding to use for after hitting Z to turn hoverplay back on?
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post Oct 6 2017, 09:53
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Oct 6 2017, 01:48) *

So, using Monsterbation, what does a mage style typically look like?
How do you set up for imperil and Strongest()? I mean, obviously set your skills into the script's Strongest() function, but I mean do you bind Strongest() to a hotkey, then just imperil, move mouse to preferred targer, Strongest() hotkey? So one hand on hotkeys, one hand on mouse?

I've set up a cure circle on Q, like this:
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Bind(KEY_Q, Strongest([Use('7'), Cast('Full Cure'), Use('1'), Cast('Cure')]));

where every time i press Q i use Cure, Potion, Full Cure and Health Elixir
on W and E i bound mana and spirit draughts, on S mana pots and elixir, on D spirit pots and elixir
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Bind(KEY_SPACE, ToggleHover);

for Space to toggle Hover actions

put Imperil on right click, Protection and Regen on wheel up and wheel down, and Arcane Focus on wheel click
It goes like this:
Start round, cast Protection and Regen, imperil 2, 5 and 8 (if i'm on a SG round i just imperil them)
Press Space and script begin using the highest spell bound, and simply hover until they die
I'd recommmend you to wait for lvl 310 when last Imperil ability (without cooldown) appears
Make sure everything in your cloth set has 3 PABs
Begin farming prof in Pfudor REs, they give the biggest prof (because of exp) and it's just one round

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post Oct 6 2017, 10:23
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 6 2017, 03:58) *

Forgive my ignorance, but do we have script that automatically cast T3 spells at the beginning of the round and T2 or T1 afterwards? Because, in melee case, you just push down the button and BAM BAM BAM BAM. In mage playstyle, one turn can involve choosing spell > target, which is time consuming.

Automatically as on its own no. It would be botting.
Automatically as on hovering in a spell chain, yep.

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post Oct 6 2017, 10:29
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QUOTE(Draw99Gray @ Oct 6 2017, 09:53) *


put Imperil on right click
Start round, cast Protection and Regen, imperil 2, 5 and 8 (if i'm on a SG round i just imperil them)
Press Space and script begin using the highest spell bound, and simply hover until they die


imperil on right click has the big disadvantage that you can keep right-clicking imperil even if you got spark-of-life'd. Then that right click causes you to die. The hover-shift method, as explained in the examples inside the script, is much safer and will let you finish PFfest eventually.
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post Oct 6 2017, 11:47
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 6 2017, 05:29) *

imperil on right click has the big disadvantage that you can keep right-clicking imperil even if you got spark-of-life'd. Then that right click causes you to die. The hover-shift method, as explained in the examples inside the script, is much safer and will let you finish PFfest eventually.

It happened at first, until i got used to it, and i usually watch a movie while i do last 2 arenas
It's been weeks since my last death with Holy Mage
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post Oct 6 2017, 14:08
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 6 2017, 02:10) *

I have heard from evreyone from start that holy mage is fastest

So Please, can 1H master experts share their clear time of PFUDOR DWD.
As "Goldage" does it with holy mage in under 9min.

I want to know how much of a difference it is,
Clear time of expert holy mage and expert 1H.?

(i.e. is it even worth switching to mage in future )

Or the clear time difference is negligible?


I am not 1H master (only 8,661 ADB), but just to get more info.
5,284 steps; 29 minutes; 3 tps
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:19
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I need some help guys:

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This should not be possible. But it happened before to me, not monster 155 but monster 156 has been created, and as a consequence, 155 is now also a mechanoid. I run HVtoolbox 1.03. Without scripts, last time, this did not happen. What's up with this?
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:34
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Oct 6 2017, 01:44) *

my actually record for PFUDOR DwD is 5256 turns with 9320 ABD. But i am maybe not the best comparson 1H player when it comes to Goldage. Better we wait for a 1H player above the 10k ABD.


either way i play Pfudor DWD totaly wrong or 1H is just a crapy style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

13450 ADB , Dæmon Duality V, Wind Rapier with Holy Infusion.

best run = 3200 turns. depending if only use ofc, or rota ofc with skill2 from 1H (vital strike),
the t/s varies between 2,4-3,1. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) best run 20min, no attention run 25min. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(if you need to pay attention that Overwhelming Strikes (buff) is on you befor use ofc,
or 2x attention for vital strike ((buff + stunn) i dont chain skill1+2)), then i guess its normal to have crap t/s as 1H)
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post Oct 6 2017, 16:47
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 5 2017, 20:10) *

I have heard from evreyone from start that holy mage is fastest

So Please, can 1H master experts share their clear time of PFUDOR DWD.
As "Goldage" does it with holy mage in under 9min.

I want to know how much of a difference it is,
Clear time of expert holy mage and expert 1H.?

(i.e. is it even worth switching to mage in future )

Or the clear time difference is negligible?



From what I've seen, mages are 3 to 4 times faster on average than 1H melee. And more than being a top player (with the best equipment, hath perks and upgrades), in my opinion what makes the difference is the quality of the internet of each one. See the example posted by f4tal:

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 09:08) *

I am not 1H master (only 8,661 ADB), but just to get more info.
5,284 steps; 29 minutes; 3 tps
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This time is very good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I've never been able to do it in less than 35 minutes. And as my internet is very unstable, in recent weeks my times ranged from 39 to 45 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And when it's too bad, this can go over 50. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I have also seen some examples of players (level > 400) with ADB > 10000, but with times over 30 minutes (bad internet). At the same time, there was someone (level < 400) using DW (which is slower than 1H), but that did it in 30 minutes (good internet).

Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).

QUOTE(Waifu Maniac @ Oct 6 2017, 11:34) *

either way i play Pfudor DWD totaly wrong or 1H is just a crapy style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

13450 ADB , Dæmon Duality V, Wind Rapier with Holy Infusion.

best run = 3200 turns. depending if only use ofc, or rota ofc with skill2 from 1H (vital strike),
the t/s varies between 2,4-3,1. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) best run 20min, no attention run 25min. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(if you need to pay attention that Overwhelming Strikes (buff) is on you befor use ofc,
or 2x attention for vital strike ((buff + stunn) i dont chain skill1+2)), then i guess its normal to have crap t/s as 1H)


Your times are excellent!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) And your t/s is good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 6 2017, 17:21
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
This time is very good. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Yes, it is all about good internet here. My regular tps is 2,8-3,2; very rarely I have more than 3,2.
I am doing Imperil on SchoolGirls (it lasts for 30 turns - more than enough to kill SG before imperil will expelled).
Also Holy Infusions =)
I am using alt site, btw.

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
I've never been able to do it in less than 35 minutes. And as my internet is very unstable, in recent weeks my times ranged from 39 to 45 minutes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And when it's too bad, this can go over 50. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Have you tried alt site? Or different browser? Just to be sure it is ISP-related problem, not anything itself?

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 17:47) *
Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).

O_O amazed. I thought blackjac00 should be the fastest one here with all his resources and equipment.
Maybe he don't really care and haven't ~really~ tried (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 6 2017, 17:19) *
I need some help guys:
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This should not be possible. But it happened before to me, not monster 155 but monster 156 has been created, and as a consequence, 155 is now also a mechanoid. I run HVtoolbox 1.03. Without scripts, last time, this did not happen. What's up with this?

Let me recap - You have unlocked two new slots, then created and named one monster, but game also created a second one on itself?
Maybe you pressed "back" button in browser or "reload" the page and form with new monster data were re-submitted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Oct 6 2017, 17:34
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Yes, it is all about good internet here. My regular tps is 2,8-3,2; very rarely I have more than 3,2.
I am doing Imperil on SchoolGirls (it lasts for 30 turns - more than enough to kill SG before imperil will expelled).
Also Holy Infusions =)


I do the same thing (with Holy or Dark Infusions), but my t/s should be below 2 (I do not know as I do not use scripts). The biggest problem is the lags and the sudden interruptions in the connection.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

I am using alt site, btw.
Have you tried alt site? Or different browser? Just to be sure it is ISP-related problem, not anything itself?


I use alt site too, in the Iron browser (which I use exclusively to play and forum activities). For all other activities I use Firefox and/or Chrome.

My problem is the ISP. The service has gotten a lot worse (it should be a lack of investment in maintenance and upgrading, because their equipment is old).

QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 12:21) *

O_O amazed. I thought blackjac00 should be the fastest one here with all his resources and equipment.
Maybe he don't really care and haven't ~really~ tried (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Probably his internet is not very good either (just regular).
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i did dwd in 40 minutes now with some pauses and not really a tryhard run, holy infusion.
gotta try to tryhard it sometime with monsterbation for the log (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

and im at 5.2k dmg / 37% crit / 62% crit dmg

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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Oct 6 2017, 16:47) *

Even blackjac00, with his top gear, takes 26 minutes (this if I understood correctly what he wrote here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ).


And here I thought he's an overpowered monster who can one punch bosses
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 6 2017, 18:31) *

And here I thought he's an overpowered monster who can one punch bosses

well, clearing final round of T&T in four rounds actually *means* one-shotting bosses on average (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 6 2017, 19:16
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Can confirm, takes me about 20-25min to do my PFUDOR DWD as a Holy Mage

My T/s is around 1.7-2.1
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Where can I find a complete list of spell/spell IDs?
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post Oct 6 2017, 20:21
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Where can I find a complete list of spell/spell IDs?

See below

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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 6 2017, 11:21) *

Here we go: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4884182
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We need to form that list in some sort of good-looking list. Will do this right now.

Thank ye!

Thought it doesn't actually have the info I was looking for >.<

Is there a spell ID for mana potion? I know I can insert a 'use mana potion' into Monsterbations' hover set; I'm trying to do the same thing with MouseMagelee
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