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post Sep 28 2017, 12:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 28 2017, 12:30) *

try to avoid Ethereal if possible and if you don't plan to play DW with the same rapier.

How should that work? DW has different IW needs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:35
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 28 2017, 12:30) *

Dark/Holy if you plan to do many SGs (with a personal preference for Dark).
Cold otherwise, since it can be paired with Fire Spike.
the other prefixes should be pretty much the same.
try to avoid Ethereal if possible and if you don't plan to play DW with the same rapier.
[edit]: btw, your rapier seems solid enough to me...


I see a tempest in this week auction with better parry and damage but don't know if mine is better or that one. For arenas I'm going all mage already so 1H is only for grindfests. Tbh I don't really want to change. 10% materials + catalysts + auction price + IW seem a lot. Am I better off spending credits on a slaughter armor?

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post Sep 28 2017, 12:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 28 2017, 12:31) *

How should that work? DW has different IW needs. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

personally i found that an overall OP6 is already good enough. so one may think about going OP4~5 on offhand waki/shortsword (depending on what Fatality level he wants), tolerating an OP1~2 on mainhand rapier and bam - an all-purpose rapier.

furthermore, it's not like OP1~2 hinders 1H gameplay too much. Overwhelming Strikes isn't on all times, you know.

QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 28 2017, 12:35) *

I see a tempest in this week auction with better parry and damage but don't know if mine is better or that one. For arenas I'm going all mage already so 1H is only for grindfests.

not worth the pain of re-forging and re-doing IW, imo. keep yours.
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 28 2017, 11:21) *

roughly 67M. possibly 67.1, but not sure.


I'm looking for the exact value, not an approximation. Wasn't there some script that had it hardcoded?
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:46
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I'm looking for the exact value, not an approximation. Wasn't there some script that had it hardcoded?

dude, the amount of items generated in one second is enormous and the amount of infos we had was scarce (even worse now). we came at that value by aproximations. i know SmartSearch uses a 67.18M value, but probably it's a bit higher than needed to be on the safe side.

what do you need that for?
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:59
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Well, I was thinking about possibly making a script that changes the equip popup's background to warn that it's a pre-0.82. Would be very useful at least for me. But since smartsearch uses a hardcoded value, I suppose I'll refer to that one.
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post Sep 28 2017, 13:23
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 28 2017, 12:59) *

Well, I was thinking about possibly making a script that changes the equip popup's background to warn that it's a pre-0.82. Would be very useful at least for me. But since smartsearch uses a hardcoded value, I suppose I'll refer to that one.

ah, ok. maybe more useful for starters and less for old farts, but why not?

my two cents, i'd personally see it as a function to be implehemented into Toolbox. so, i'd suggest you to put it in a form that would be already ready to be incorporated into it. would it be possible?
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post Sep 28 2017, 13:48
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 28 2017, 13:23) *

my two cents, i'd personally see it as a function to be implehemented into Toolbox. so, i'd suggest you to put it in a form that would be already ready to be incorporated into it. would it be possible?


Just a quick url parse then css change is enough I guess?

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if (document.URL.split("/")[4] > 67E6) {
    document.getElementById("equip_extended").style.background = "red";
}


This? I don't know much JS and CSS

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post Sep 28 2017, 13:54
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 28 2017, 13:48) *

Just a quick url parse then css change is enough I guess?

*shrugs* don't know, i'm not fond of these things. i just thought it could've been incorporated sooner or later, so at this point...

of course, decon can do it the way he deems appropriate. if such a simple solution is enough, well...
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post Sep 28 2017, 14:51
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Yes I was thinking about a simple URL parsing to then change the background property, so barely a few lines.
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post Sep 28 2017, 19:11
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Which suffix better for rapier 1H?
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post Sep 28 2017, 19:14
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Which suffix better for rapier 1H?


Slaughter. None of the others even come close.
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post Sep 28 2017, 22:57
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Balance is still a decent second, bringing in critical damage, and is actually comparable with Slaughter at low levels where accuracy isn't maxed out, according to the comparison we did twenty pages back.

Also for rapiers, the variance in attack damage due to stat roll is greater than the other weapon types. A max ADB rapier of balance/nimble has about the same damage as a minimum ADB rapier of slaughter, so if you get one make sure to check the stats.
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post Sep 28 2017, 23:15
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After clearing the arenas I feel like doing every day, I've been trying out different things with the remainder of the 24-ish stamina I use each day. I've been trying to clear the Item World for my legendary shortsword (80 rounds total), but I keep getting murdered for my efforts.

I've brought the difficulty down to Hell. Yet I still keep running into the same problem. Around the 40-60th round, I just can't keep my spirit high enough with spirit potions and spirit draughts, and inevitably I get sparked one too many times and die.

It already feels like a bad idea to try to IW with difficulty so low, as that decreases the PXP earned and makes the journey to IW10 many times longer. It feels like if I do that, by the time I get it to IW10, it will no longer be useful as an upgrade due to having leveled up myself.

Should I just abandon it and clear more arenas each day instead, earning more trophies, artifacts, and tokens?
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post Sep 28 2017, 23:23
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Should I just abandon it and clear more arenas each day instead, earning more trophies, artifacts, and tokens?

In my opinion, since Arenas and Random Encounters give you more EXP and credits, as well, trophies from Bosses and SchoolGirls, as well clear bonuses, as well tokens - both profit-wise and exp-wise it is better to make them instead of Grindfest or IW. =)
However, IWing your weapon to unlock second strike is good and clever idea and you should do it asap.
Have you soulfused it? Soulfusing doubles all received PXP.
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post Sep 28 2017, 23:32
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 28 2017, 22:57) *

Balance is still a decent second, bringing in critical damage, and is actually comparable with Slaughter at low levels where accuracy isn't maxed out, according to the comparison we did twenty pages back.

did we reach this result? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 28 2017, 22:57) *

Also for rapiers, the variance in attack damage due to stat roll is greater than the other weapon types. A max ADB rapier of balance/nimble has about the same damage as a minimum ADB rapier of slaughter, so if you get one make sure to check the stats.

yes, a Lmax non-Slaughter is comparable to a Mmin Slaughter, ADB-wise. or a mid-tier Exq.
if one picks a non-Slaughter, surely it's not for its ADB and is quite willing to give up that ADB boost for something else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Cryosite @ Sep 28 2017, 23:15) *

It already feels like a bad idea to try to IW with difficulty so low, as that decreases the PXP earned and makes the journey to IW10 many times longer. It feels like if I do that, by the time I get it to IW10, it will no longer be useful as an upgrade due to having leveled up myself.

Should I just abandon it and clear more arenas each day instead, earning more trophies, artifacts, and tokens?

reaching void strike (or iw10 random elemental strike) is one of the best upgrades you may earn, so it definitely may have a meaning trying to pursue that. you may want to try your luck with Tyger here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry4960087
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post Sep 29 2017, 00:29
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I still haven't tried power armor (currently doing 90 round IW on my self-dropped legendary power at IWBTH and PFUDOR difficulty) but I suspect power armor may be overrated on a low level player. I also think Spirit Shield is overrated on low level players. I upgraded mine fully but I found it's arguably less useful at level 5 than it was at level 3. With more upgrades, Spirit Shield triggers earlier as stated, but uses up more spirit. In fact, it is less spirit efficient than it was at level 3, although the difference is minor. This is the reverse of what the description states.

I still need Spirit Shield as my final, and least helpful buff to survive IW, but at level 5 there is a small chance I could die from overlooked bursts of spirit drain (mainly if I push things too far and am stingy with spirit draughts, I try to use only a couple total). At level 3 there is no chance to die from Spirit Shield drain, but there is a small chance I could die from multiple big monster attacks (Spark should still save me unless I accidentally click an extra time).

The fact that you say you cannot survive IW even on Hell difficulty reinforces my skepticism of the popular gears and styles at slightly low levels. From levels 210 to 244, I did IW on my legendary rapier. And it was extremely easy on Hell with only a superior wakizashi and leather armor (at level 210, it was easy on Nintendo but got harder for me as my level increased). I used zero spirit draughts back then, because using the DW style (at that level range) I never used spirit for anything, not even my default starting spirit. With my current set of legendary plate I don't even need any block and can tank everything up, using minimal draughts.

The concern about overleveling yourself by the time you reach IW 10 is especially valid at very low levels. My level 200 legendary rapier of slaughter is no longer that useful to me. At our current level though, doing IW has less of that problem. On this note, a level 200 legendary rapier of balance or nimble, should be preferrable to a slaughter, as accuracy/crit/parry do not get underleveled.

I only use 1 stamina a day. I guess this is what happens when you have 0.5 ~ 0.7 turns/second on firefox. I'll be able to get that up eventually, as this game plays much faster for me on a faster PC running chrome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 29 2017, 00:59
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I haven't really played in a long time...

If I recall correctly... there used to be Daggers in HV right?

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On a side note, I recently purchased my first Auto Cast slot... and it's AWESOME
Is it recommended I save up credits to get my 2nd and 3 auto cast slot asap?

Coffee

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post Sep 29 2017, 01:01
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Sep 28 2017, 23:15) *

After clearing the arenas I feel like doing every day, I've been trying out different things with the remainder of the 24-ish stamina I use each day. I've been trying to clear the Item World for my legendary shortsword (80 rounds total), but I keep getting murdered for my efforts.

I've brought the difficulty down to Hell. Yet I still keep running into the same problem. Around the 40-60th round, I just can't keep my spirit high enough with spirit potions and spirit draughts, and inevitably I get sparked one too many times and die.

It already feels like a bad idea to try to IW with difficulty so low, as that decreases the PXP earned and makes the journey to IW10 many times longer. It feels like if I do that, by the time I get it to IW10, it will no longer be useful as an upgrade due to having leveled up myself.

Should I just abandon it and clear more arenas each day instead, earning more trophies, artifacts, and tokens?


You're not using deprecating spells enough, and you certainly aren't geared/playing your style properly.
PFUDOR IW is hard even for high level players. Imagine the insane amount of damage the monsters deal beyond round 60 or even 80. More than 20k at once is very common.
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post Sep 29 2017, 01:02
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QUOTE(coffeemug @ Sep 29 2017, 00:59) *

If I recall correctly... there used to be Daggers in HV right?

there used, yep. the closest you can find nowadays are Shortswords.

QUOTE(coffeemug @ Sep 29 2017, 00:59) *

On a side note, I recently purchased my first Auto Cast slot... and it's AWESOME
Is it recommended I save up credits to get my 2nd and 3 auto cast slot asap?

2nd for sure. 3rd may wait a bit. you may also want to consider Vigorous Vitality, btw
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