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So Please ,i am requesting grand-masters to think of a solution for less availability of low level equipment.

You can do what I did starting about level 295.

1. WTB for Magnificent gear I could afford. DFNoni and Slobber and one other two others sold to me. That got me out of Superior and into Magnificent gear for the most part.
2. Watch other players WTS. Overall got me a couple Mag pieces but in general pricier than auction.
3. Look for Legendaries close to your level. ADB doesn't matter much from 300 to 350, 30-70% is ok.
4. Look for mid 300 mid 400 legendaries (protection desired at this point, warding ok) whose ADB is 90% or more. Budget 50k-200k each for these pieces.
4a. One low cost auction strategy is to find high ADB pieces with a wart or two, and just bid 'start' money for them. Do not reply to anyone bidding over you. It's slow but it works.
5. Grow into pieces. That gives you more room to purchase gear.
6. I started moving into slaughter pieces in the 390s, when I had the money to compete in auctions for those pieces. But be prepared to pay 5m-15m a piece. By that point I had a complete set of protection/warding gear.
7. A more affordable alternative is peerless gear, Basara Nekki has a set that averages 3m a piece.

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This post has been edited by Muddybug: Sep 23 2017, 18:47

Remind me, please, there is no way to decrease my PABs in any other way, but...
a ) decreasing it every day by 10
b ) creating new persona (it would have 0 points then),
am I right?

What I want to do is to rearrange points of some PABs (decrease xxx at 15, increase YYY at 20 - so one)

Even now I'm still not fully Legendary geared on my 1H set

Had a Mag Helmet into the 360s, and replaced my Mag Rapier of Slaughter around level 375.

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Remind me, please, there is no way to decrease my PABs in any other way, but...
a ) decreasing it every day by 10
b ) creating new persona (it would have 0 points then),
am I right?

What I want to do is to rearrange points of some PABs (decrease xxx at 15, increase YYY at 20 - so one)

not that i know.

Oh, the good old times. When i got an Exq Rapier from Wolfgirl, i fellt like the king of the hill. I used it until i got my first Mag Rapier Slaughter selfdrop. I was so proud and happy about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I remember being given two Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter by someone back then (don't remember who), and I was so proud and happy.

A few questions for the experts

1) At what PL do monsters start bringing high level grade materials? I have several monsters PL 500 and higher and have not received a single high grade wood/metal or cloth...
2) Is it more efficient to create as many monsters a possible or just keep a moderate number of monsters with a high PL?

3) I heard having a decent elementalist piece such as glove/boots instead going all phase armor of an elemental is better. Does that also apply to forbidden/holy such as heaven-sent/demon-fiend boots/gloves?

1) At what PL do monsters start bringing high level grade materials? I have several monsters PL 500 and higher and have not received a single high grade wood/metal or cloth...

It starts at around PL 500. But it beginns at a very low chance. So if you really want your monsters to bring you HG stuff you should target PL 700 and above.

2) Is it more efficient to create as many monsters a possible or just keep a moderate number of monsters with a high PL?

It is all about numbers. A PL 25 monster has the same chance to bring you a phazon like a PL 2000 one. Also the higher the PL the longer they need to finaly pay off the invested crystals.

1) At what PL do monsters start bringing high level grade materials? I have several monsters PL 500 and higher and have not received a single high grade wood/metal or cloth...

Wiki says high-grade starts at PL500. Just give it time, I guess. It will probably take weeks until high-grade stuff starts popping up.

2) Is it more efficient to create as many monsters a possible or just keep a moderate number of monsters with a high PL?

It's been said time and time again that it's better to have lots of monsters than a few high-level ones. Although I don't see why you couldn't have both. I mean, you need chaos tokens to unlock new slots and crystals to upgrade power level. They're not mutually exclusive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And Uncle is right: the more you invest in monsters, the longer it takes for them to break even. Monster lab isn't meant for making a profit, it's a credit sink.

3) I heard having a decent elementalist piece such as glove/boots instead going all phase armor of an elemental is better. Does that also apply to forbidden/holy such as heaven-sent/demon-fiend boots/gloves?

I think current meta still says holy/dark needs 2 cotton 3 phase, unless you want to go imperil. Others are free to correct me on this.

Exquisite Power Armor is still a premium at my level today, or at least I feel so. But anyway this conversation is odd because you have several "low-level" complainers who have all legendary weapons and armors, and ALL_MIGHT even has all endgame weapons and shields and armors (or close to it).

As Sapo said though, much of this is the way it should be.

But some of it maybe not. The low level weapons inflate in value to the point that the low level players, who have less money (especially free ones) can't afford them. Well, maybe that's the way it should be too, actually.

There are solutions to the low level problem. One is to powerlevel through the so-called bad levels supposedly in the level 250 range. I never felt this way personally, I became strongest at level 250 due to the 1H block upgrade. Since I use no real shield and block with my hands and body. :3

But powerleveling only creates a greater dearth of level 200 legendaries. Anyway, as I said earlier, I think after patch 0.85 we should start to see way more level low level legendaries, we just need to make other low level players aware of how to play at pfudor starting at level 150 or lower.

Another way to make a lot of low level legendaries is to find some level 100 or 200 guy and imprison him, turning him into Son of Blackjac. We will all give him money so that he can buy the Follower of Snowflake, and then everyone sends him our trophies. This could probably be made into a self-sustaining and profitable economic system with some planning.

Exquisite Power Armor is still a premium at my level today, or at least I feel so. But anyway this conversation is odd because you have several "low-level" complainers who have all legendary weapons and armors, and ALL_MIGHT even has all endgame weapons and shields and armors (or close to it).

As Sapo said though, much of this is the way it should be.

But some of it maybe not. The low level weapons inflate in value to the point that the low level players, who have less money (especially free ones) can't afford them. Well, maybe that's the way it should be too, actually.

There are solutions to the low level problem. One is to powerlevel through the so-called bad levels supposedly in the level 250 range. I never felt this way personally, I became strongest at level 250 due to the 1H block upgrade. Since I use no real shield and block with my hands and body. :3

But powerleveling only creates a greater dearth of level 200 legendaries. Anyway, as I said earlier, I think after patch 0.85 we should start to see way more level low level legendaries, we just need to make other low level players aware of how to play at pfudor starting at level 150 or lower.

Another way to make a lot of low level legendaries is to find some level 100 or 200 guy and imprison him, turning him into Son of Blackjac. We will all give him money so that he can buy the Follower of Snowflake, and then everyone sends him our trophies. This could probably be made into a self-sustaining and profitable economic system with some planning.

What inflation are you talking about? There's a lot of stuff for free in FreeShop, most of what I display is between 4k and 20k, same goes for the other mid-range shops. If anything, it's way easier for low/mid-level players to find stuff than when the v0.82 came out, even though Level Unassigned stuff tends to be disappearing.

As for powerleveling, no one forces the players to powerlevel. If one decides to powerlevel, then he has to bear the consequences instead of moaning that he can't find equipment better than he currently has so he can powerlevel even harder... and moan again for even better equipment.

There are both good and bad aspects to powerleveling. I am taking the opposite approach myself. I'm holding down my level to try to create low level legendaries, although lately my luck dried up again. No legendaries for 10 levels despite doing random encounters almost exclusively.

Also since I didn't soulfuse any of my equipment, the higher level I get the weaker I get (sort of, this was definitely true earlier but at this point the monsters have maxed out, although their HP still scales up rapidly).

As for the inflation, it is huge and there. You are talking about mediocre equipment on FreeShop or your store so that is why the prices are still reasonable. Not legendary ethereal rapiers with dark strike and 85% adb.

I'm not necessarily complaining about the low level situation myself, I agree with what you and Sapo said. But I think it could be better than it is, if more effort is put into it. Now where can we find a level 100~200 person to turn into a trophy slave? :3

We should name him Son of Blackjac or the (No)Soul(fuse) King.

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Someone explain him why a 85% ADB Leg Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter or a PHOH are worth millions please, because I have murder tendencies right now.

decondelite, I think you are taking things too harsh and seriously. =)

As for "son of blackjac" - ohmy xD That would be very funny, yet cruel thing. I had same idea time ago, when thinking about how can one increase the amount of good equip in freeshop.
By the way, how exactly the stock of freeshop is populating, could you tell me? Of course, donation, I know. What else?

But some of it maybe not. The low level weapons inflate in value to the point that the low level players, who have less money (especially free ones) can't afford them. Well, maybe that's the way it should be too, actually.

Something doesn't add up.
If weapons inflate in value it means that every decent weapon that drops it's worth a lot and you can get a decent amount of money by selling equipments.
At the end of the day if drops are worth more you spend and get more.
At level 489 every drop without stellar stats is useless, I may get an average rolled set of legendaries for pennies but on the other hand I can sell only one drop every 2 weeks because all the rest is crap.

Is there a new version of equipment comparison script? Or no one fix it yet.

As far as I know, nobody fixed that script and highly unlikely ever will be.
Same for MagicScore.

On other hand, who knows, maybe someone is fixing that script right now, but I dont remember anyone reported about it. Correct me if I am wrong.

If you want some sort of comparison mechanism, than you might check Superlatanium's Repcentile Ranges script. That script also included in HVtoolBox script. Links to both in Wiki's Compendium (check my signature).

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 24 2017, 02:56

As far as I know, nobody fixed that script and highly unlikely ever will be.
Same for MagicScore.

On other hand, who knows, maybe someone is fixing that script right now, but I dont remember anyone reported about it. Correct me if I am wrong.

If you want some sort of comparison mechanism, than you might check Superlatanium's Repcentile Ranges script. That script also included in HVtoolBox script. Links to both in Wiki's Compendium (check my signature).

Thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

There are several explanations. Because you level up so fast at low level, even a low level legendary hunter may only get 3 ~ 10 legendaries before level 300. With average luck it would all be crap and worth nothing.

In the rare case you got something great, the value overinflates well beyond what any level 200 player can afford (50k legendary rapier with bad stats becomes 3m for example). Since the level 200 players don't even have the money they would be willing to pay, the value of the great item is capped.

Also, the low level legendary rapier or legendary force shield is most times soulfused, therefore unsellable. And even more sad, one day salvaged for materials. The value is lost.

The low-level profit you imagine does exist but drop luck is needed, and in most cases it is only medium decent items (legendary axes, magnificent force shields) that could benefit. That's why I imagine the Son of Blackjac idea could work. A pitiable, righteous soul who is level 100 or 200 (maybe even 300) is forced into eternal slavery. He can no longer fight monsters or play the game. He can only talk on the forum and receive trophies and redeem them at low level. Because of low-level inflation he should be able to profit, but it cannot be for himself since he can't fight anymore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

value of items is dependent on who is willing to pay that price. the only reason low level legendary gear would be valued is if there is someone rich enough at low levels that is willing to pay this price.

this *is* possible because EH economy isn't entirely reliant strictly on the EH game itself and if a low level hath baron does come around then yes they may be willing to pay a hefty amount for the gear. but if you were to talk about the majority of the low levels, then no, their income will primarily consist of HV funds and hence everything would be in the 5 digit range with high tier items in the 6 digit range.

this then addresses the concern of liquidity. a legendary 100% ADB rapier of slaughter in the low level range is undoubtedly a rare item and borderline irreplaceable. to sell it in the realm of 7+ digits requires patience - waiting for that low level hath baron to come around.

Hey guys. I'm playing 1h+shield, and I was hoping I could get some general advice/feedback on what I'm doing (which is to say, please tell me all the shit I'm doing wrong and how I can fix it).

Stats:

270 (+85) Strength
225 (+59) Dexterity
199 (+15) Agility (Apparently I shouldn't have been putting points in this as 1h?)
258 (+84) Endurance
10 Intelligence
207 Wisdom (Probably a bit more than I should have put in this?)

Gear:

Main Hand: Exquisite Axe of Slaughter
Off Hand: Exquisite Mithril Kite Shield of Protection
Helmet: Superior Power Helmet of Protection
Body: Magnificent Jade Plate Cuirass of Protection
Hands: Superior Power Gauntlets of Protection
Legs: Exquisite Plate Greaves of Warding
Feet: Superior Plate Sabatons of Protection

And in combat I've been using all three Draughts, Protection, Regen, Heartseeker, and Spark of Life,

Thanks!

This post has been edited by WName: Sep 24 2017, 10:28