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Sep 16 2017, 21:19
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 16 2017, 21:14)  So for that i found Legendary Hallowed Wakizashi of Slaughter (369, ADB 87%, Parry 83%) @ 250k credits in Piyin's Shop. should i buy it ?is it end game level? (Sorry, for silly queries but I don't know much about DW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ) a decent piece on its own, but slaughter suffix on a waki isn't exactly the best. QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 16 2017, 21:14)  Between Slaughter vs Nimble vs Balance . Which is better for end game equipment.
nimble for bonus parry. when your evade will be enough (or with niten, which doesn't have offhand parry boost) you may consider also balance for more crit. high-level niteners could think about slaughter waki, but sort of a niche sector. for a mid-level, DW-wannabe like you i'd suggest a whatever-prefixed nimble with decent parry/DEX/AGI rolls.
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Sep 16 2017, 21:43
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 16 2017, 21:12)  ok, so let's assume you have dark prof maxed (or close to, with recent patch). let's say 480? math is very rough, so expect, uh... 5% error? maybe a bit more.
staff, 129 for now. roughly 150 at full forge.
vanilla shoes at your level should be ~90. full forging would bring them to 120 or so.
vanilla cap, 123. full forged, roughly 160. let's sum all of these: 480 + 129 + 120 + 160 = 889
with perk: 889 * 1.1 = 978 which means 1.04 prof factor. there's the chance i considered lv500 here and your level there, but difference between the two isn't too big, so error is little. and you'll still be around 1 prof even without fully forging your staff.
at that point, i'd start thinking about forging staff more than cottons, and sparing a bit of cloths.
staff will be more like 110, fully forged - I am planning to go willow. That's 41 lower than your example. That means about 848 prof. With perk it's 933. That means 0.86 prof factor. And I need only 0.8 for imperil style. Okay, these 2 items will do for now. Thanks for the help!
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Sep 16 2017, 22:03
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 16 2017, 21:43)  staff will be more like 110, fully forged - I am planning to go willow. That's 41 lower than your example. That means about 848 prof. With perk it's 933. That means 0.86 prof factor. And I need only 0.8 for imperil style. Okay, these 2 items will do for now. Thanks for the help!
i made calculations with 129, actually...
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Sep 16 2017, 22:37
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 16 2017, 22:03)  i made calculations with 129, actually...
A mid-range willow will have 110 or so when fully forged...
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Sep 16 2017, 22:43
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 16 2017, 22:37)  A mid-range willow will have 110 or so when fully forged...
yep. but it means 19 less than my example, not 41 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sep 16 2017, 23:45
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WName
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I remember reading somewhere on the forum that it isn't worth giving artifacts and/or trophies to the Shrine, but I'm having trouble finding that info again. Could anyone clarify what I should be doing with them? Thanks!
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Sep 17 2017, 00:03
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(WName @ Sep 16 2017, 23:45)  I remember reading somewhere on the forum that it isn't worth giving artifacts and/or trophies to the Shrine, but I'm having trouble finding that info again. Could anyone clarify what I should be doing with them? Thanks!
sell them. plenty of buyers on WTB for artifacts. for trophies, the best offer comes from blackjac00
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Sep 17 2017, 00:05
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WName
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 17 2017, 00:03)  sell them. plenty of buyers on WTB for artifacts. for trophies, the best offer comes from blackjac00
Ah, cool. Thanks!
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Sep 17 2017, 00:08
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f4tal
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Hi, WName =) Maybe you saw that advice in that thread: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4947698Basically, shrining artifacts is a gambling: most times you will receive trash (few days ago one user reported that he shrined ~1000 trophies and got only one legendary equipment from one Noodle Appengage trophy. It is good that he got at least one!). So, why you should test your luck then? Instead you can visit WTB-section of the forum and find someone who are buying trophies for nice price (they are rich cats and have millions of credits, so they can afford a gambling in an attempt to get good equipment). That link I gave you has more informatiin about this subject and also teaches how to you Smart Search script to make your trading easier. Check that thread. Good luck =) This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 17 2017, 00:10
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Sep 17 2017, 00:11
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Ea-Moon
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that Legendary is probably worth 40 million at an absolute minimum though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (but yeah, even that was enormously luck of the draw)
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Sep 17 2017, 00:18
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f4tal
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Yes, that what I am saying and I am highlighted the fact that it was Noodle (one of 14?). So, you can expect that once in blue moon Noodle may give you something decent (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) All boss' and SG' trophies gave you only trash... And 8 magnificent. =( This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 17 2017, 00:18
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Sep 17 2017, 00:20
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WName
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 17 2017, 00:08)  Hi, WName =) Maybe you saw that advice in that thread: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4947698Basically, shrining artifacts is a gambling: most times you will receive trash (few days ago one user reported that he shrined ~1000 trophies and got only one legendary equipment from one Noodle Appengage trophy. It is good that he got at least one!). So, why you should test your luck then? Instead you can visit WTB-section of the forum and find someone who are buying trophies for nice price (they are rich cats and have millions of credits, so they can afford a gambling in an attempt to get good equipment). That link I gave you has more informatiin about this subject and also teaches how to you Smart Search script to make your trading easier. Check that thread. Good luck =) Cool, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation! I think that might be the thread I originally saw that in. I'll take a closer look at that thread.
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Sep 17 2017, 01:15
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BlueWaterSplash
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I think shrining artifacts is worth it so you can get artifact stats. You can sell the energy drink. I don't know about trophies. I think it could be worth it if there is a specific kind of equipment you want (1H for example). Not everything is based on value. For example a few days ago buimon got Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance and other people told it's crap, worth less than 50k to a high level player. But for us, it's worth like 500k because it's low level and great weapon and we can use it.
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Sep 17 2017, 01:35
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sssss2
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 17 2017, 03:26)  So I got 2 items in auction: Legendary Charged Cotton Shoes of the Demon-fiendLegendary Frugal Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiendShoes have base prof of 6.25 Cap has base prof of 8.21 Total of 14.46 Both equips will be lv. 500 when I start using them, one soulfused, other as-is. How can I calculate the prof factor I will have with these 2 items, when fully forged, at level 500? If you get a decent willow staff which has 6.0 base prof, (6.0+6.25+8.21) * 1.342 (forge) * 15 (scale ratio at 500) = 411.86 And you can get +50 from the hath perk. Thus, you need 538.14 base proficiency to reach 1.0 factor.
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Sep 17 2017, 02:11
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(issary @ Sep 16 2017, 19:20)  Use 5 phase for SGs,use Magnet and Imp only on schoolgirls in rounds with schoolgirl.
I finally tested 5+0 vs 4+1 (fuck IW), results are from this week (friday excluded since it has mitigation reduction) Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of FocusLegendary Mystic Phase Cap of HeimdallLegendary Charged Phase Robe of HeimdallLegendary Charged Cotton Gloves of the Heaven-sentLegendary Charged Phase Pants of HeimdallLegendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall   Peerless Hallowed Oak Staff of FocusLegendary Mystic Phase Cap of HeimdallLegendary Charged Phase Robe of HeimdallPeerless Frugal Phase Gloves of HeimdallLegendary Charged Phase Pants of HeimdallLegendary Charged Phase Shoes of Heimdall I didn't play very well in the first 38 rounds, imperil should be up at all times since un-impereled monsters take too much time. Anyway, even if I manage to do a bit better the difference is not as big as I was thinking. Very close, and End of Days/Eternal Darkness should see even smaller benefit (if there is a benefit to begin with). Obviously I will play more with this setup, but my guess is that 4+1 is nearly as good as 5+0 and much cheaper (10,000 kGP, 20+M worth of materials, 40+ amnesia shards and hours of IW in my case). P.S. To get the monsterbation turns subtract 150 from the total in the screenshots (I'm keeping the Counter Plus behaviour). This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 17 2017, 02:14
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Sep 17 2017, 02:31
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 17 2017, 00:08)  (they are rich cats and have millions billions of credits, so they can afford a gambling in an attempt to get good equipment).
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Sep 17 2017, 02:37
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Matrim_Cauthon
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Is this Legging good enough for soulfusing at 45% adb?
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Sep 17 2017, 03:06
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Draw99Gray
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Weapon skills do more damage the more OC you have?
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Sep 17 2017, 03:44
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Muddybug
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QUOTE(Fire_Mage @ Sep 16 2017, 20:37)  Is this Legging good enough for soulfusing at 45% adb? Somewhere in the 300s you'll replace that with a Slaughter piece or Protection piece with > 90% ADB. IMO, the first thing any 1H + heavy in the mid 200s should consider soulfusing is a decent rapier(i.e. Mag rapier of slaughter with a high ADB for Mags). Μμ (.) (.) y
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