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Spark of life needs SP.

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Does spark of life need Spirit Points to work/trigger?

I had spark active in my buffs, my healthbar was silver... then I used spirit attack which drained my SP to zero and my healthbar stopped being silver even though I had the spark buff still active...

Was this a visual bug or does spark need SP?

Yes, spark needs SP to trigger.

Basically spark won't trigger if you don't have enough SP (50% of your base SP), though it still ticks for your movements.

When your healthbar turns silver, it means spark will be successfully triggered if you receive any attack that will kill you.

I doubt if 3.3x PAB phase robe of owl/fox exists.
The base rolls simply shows that it's impossible to get anything pass 3.2x PAB UNLESS it has exquisite or above quality.
Dcherry, I'm not trying to say you've made a mistake, but it's difficult to convince me unless I can see any phase robe with 3.3x PAB, which means we may have to revamp the base calculation. Again.
I used the following rolls:
Max base roll for phase's PAB = 15
Max suffix roll for fox = 12
Slot multiplier = 1.2

I believe the Max Base for Phase is 16 from what my dataset shows.

Yes, spark needs SP to trigger.

Basically spark won't trigger if you don't have enough SP (50% of your base SP), though it still ticks for your movements.

When your healthbar turns silver, it means spark will be successfully triggered if you receive any attack that will kill you.

So does this mean you could only ever have the spark activate twice in a RoB? (without using restoratives)

Or does "base SP" not include the spirit tank ability points?

So does this mean you could only ever have the spark activate twice in a RoB? (without using restoratives)

Your spirit can regenerate very slowly over many turns or via Ripened Soul.

does "base SP" not include the spirit tank ability points?

Yes. That's what makes it "base".

This post has been edited by Maximum_Joe: Dec 11 2011, 01:07

Which elemental debuff do you mages consider the strongest?
My guess would be Deep Burns or Freezing Limbs... seeing as everyone really likes haste (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Searing Skin --- The skin of the target has been scorched, inhibiting its attack damage. Cold resistance is lowered.
Freezing Limbs --- The limbs of the target have been frozen, causing slower movement. Wind resistance is lowered.
Turbulent Air --- The air around the target has been upset, blowing up dust and increasing its miss chance. Elec resistance is lowered.
Deep Burns --- Internal damage causes slower reactions and lowers evade and resist chance. Fire resistance is lowered.

I'm not sure the lightning debuff does anything. Slower reactions, is that like slower movement? Monster evade and resist chance can't be very high to begin with.

I'm not sure the lightning debuff does anything. Slower reactions, is that like slower movement? Monster evade and resist chance can't be very high to begin with.

It doesn't actually reduce monster evasion (even though it should) as far as I can tell, it's currently unmitigatable even by +hit chance.

So what elements do you guys use then?

I use Elec. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Fire, Elec, Wind seem to be popular. Cold not as much for some reason.

Snapshot of current HV:

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Edited for clarity.

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Dec 12 2011, 03:32

Has anyone figured out the correlation between base magic damage and actual magic damage?

I used to be curious like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.

This post has been edited by buktore: Dec 11 2011, 13:49

@Zip
I'm not sure if those elemental debuffs still works as intended, but then I haven't been using elemental spells to play at high-difficulty arenas for a long time...

I'm still using fire spells sparingly, though I'm not sure why I'm still using them.
My dark spells can clear hard IWs faster than my fire spells.

@Ballistic9
How did you arrive at those elemental resistances at higher difficulty?
I assume that people tends to raise them evenly because it's more efficient.

@(Cheater) Tiap
I have no idea about that right now.

Has anyone figured out the correlation between base magic damage and actual magic damage?

My Heimdall set has:
1495 base damage * 873% damage bonus (1365% with AF + great status) = 20407 total spell damage.
In legendary arenas, with Nerf + Breached Defense (adds 5K damage), Banish hits ~43-75k, crits ~65-112k. Infusion of Divinity adds another 5K damage.
x2-3 spell multiplier? There's elemental weakness/resistance and natural magical mitigation to consider as well. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
That's as far as I get.

@Ballistic9
How did you arrive at those elemental resistances at higher difficulty?
I assume that people tends to raise them evenly because it's more efficient.

Guesstimate, it's basically just base resist +25. When stat/elem skillups hit ~2k crystals per you end up with PL427, although it takes a mix of 29k/73k stat/elem crystals to do so.

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Dec 11 2011, 22:24

Guesstimate, it's basically just base resist +25. When stat/elem skillups hit ~2k crystals per you end up with PL427, although it takes a mix of 29k/73k stat/elem crystals to do so.

Yeah I see that now, I am still not sure how to interpret the lower-half part though

The lower half of the chart adds up the number of monster classes / in-game monsters (top/bottom chart) with similar resists/weaknesses (go by color). Basically the top chart shows monster classes (what you expect), the bottom chart shows actual in-game monsters (what you actually get).

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Dec 11 2011, 18:50

I use Elec. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Fire, Elec, Wind seem to be popular. Cold not as much for some reason.

Snapshot of current HV:

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Man... I ended up doing something similar too. I weighed it based on PL's to show the significance of a monster's resists more accurately (if there are very little monsters with high PL of that specific type, odds are you won't run up against it as often as say, a giant or human)

Monsters with 0resist -> 25resist thanks to crystals I kept at 0 because they're essentially freebies. There's practically no difference between a 0resist monster and that same monster 25resist later to a mage IMO (because in both cases you deal omg yay dmg to them)

Lastly I ended up setting an arbitrary scale system that's basically a less in depth version of your stat weighing. Ie Giants would have a scale value of 2 whereas Sprites have a scale factor of 0.5.

Looks like your analysis was catered more towards a "general player". If it were more mage oriented I would've done END valued greater than STR and then summed the total up and calculate a weight from the stats to set up a scale factor of the monsters relevance in their resistances. In which case Giants would probably be the highest value (naturally) due to their ridic END.

I'll clarify just in case: the numbers in the bottom chart of each set list the number of mobs over PL 255 / 423 currently in-game. Basically, how often you'll run into a certain mob class (eg: there are 52 PL255+ giants currently in-game). I may need to raise the PL, meeting PL255s is rare for me now. I haven't really done any real weighting calculations other than assign monster classes a color based on HP.

I use the chart mainly for comparing differences between the first four elements (for IW/GF/CF), the rest is just there for completion.

(Edited charts for clarity)

This post has been edited by Ballistic9: Dec 12 2011, 03:22

Another quick tip to melee people.
What is the fastest weapon when fighting multiple enemies on IWBTH ?
Always a 2 handed weapon.
Answer is an ethereal estoc.
The less hitpoints your enemies have, the closer it's a tie with ethereal bleeders.
Ethereal maces are the slowest, but they keep you alive 2-3 times as long.

For legendaries and above...
Dualwield.
For me it used to be best to have ethereal rapier in main hand and heavy damage ethereal in off hand.

Now that I have a heavy bleeding cool ethereal axe, I use that in main hand.
But only because I have an ethereal rapier in off hand that has piercing duration of 7 turns.
That combo kills fsm in 200 turns and all legendaries in under 40 turns.

Another quick tip to melee people.
What is the fastest weapon when fighting multiple enemies on IWBTH ?
Always a 2 handed weapon.
Answer is an ethereal estoc.
The less hitpoints your enemies have, the closer it's a tie with ethereal bleeders.
Ethereal maces are the slowest, but they keep you alive 2-3 times as long.

For legendaries and above...
Dualwield.
For me it used to be best to have ethereal rapier in main hand and heavy damage ethereal in off hand.

Now that I have a heavy bleeding cool ethereal axe, I use that in main hand.
But only because I have an ethereal rapier in off hand that has piercing duration of 7 turns.
That combo kills fsm in 200 turns and all legendaries in under 40 turns.

One-handed Eth Rapier with 7 turns duration proc? Seriously? Ha, and this person claims he has no specific "luck", hurr hurr.