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post Sep 15 2017, 10:24
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If you play 1H, all you get from upgrade agility is the chance to free some exp. Because you really dont care about the little speed bonus you get and you dont want the evade bonus it gives you. But, if you play DW you want to go full in, everything that increase your evade is a good thing. IIRC you play 1H, so i would say dont do it and invest your money into other stats and sell the BoC.
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post Sep 15 2017, 10:55
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Sep 15 2017, 03:59) *

Because a large number of high power level monsters being remove from the system all at once would be bad.
The actually was an incident were that happened in the past, but manually deleted (in a rage quit) not deactivated.

eila perhaps?
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post Sep 15 2017, 14:16
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But you'll need 2-2.5m to feed just one monster to 1000pl(under current crystal prices which is very cheap) and that's a lot for normal player(I mean those who'll still spent most credits to download comics rather than through in hentaiverse).I think it's kind of fair to keep monster names after spend this much credits on your monsters.
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post Sep 15 2017, 14:58
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"state lock limiter in effect"
what's this?
happened when I shrine the PA by using item manager.
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post Sep 15 2017, 15:04
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"state lock limiter in effect"
what's this?
happened when I shrine the PA by using item manager.

You are sending too many requests to server in too little time. You can say it is temporary (~5 min) ban because you annoyed server too much =)

Are you using ItemManager script? maybe you should consider of using HVtoolBox script ( https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209070 ) - same ItemManager script, but tweaked, fixed and patched with new features. In that script you can configure how many requests script should send and in this way you can save yourself from "state lock limiter in effect"-thing.

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post Sep 15 2017, 15:48
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Sep 15 2017, 09:04) *

You are sending too many requests to server in too little time. You can say it is temporary (~5 min) ban because you annoyed server too much =)

Are you using ItemManager script? maybe you should consider of using HVtoolBox script ( https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209070 ) - same ItemManager script, but tweaked, fixed and patched with new features. In that script you can configure how many requests script should send and in this way you can save yourself from "state lock limiter in effect"-thing.

I see,thanks,will try HVtoolbox later.
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post Sep 15 2017, 23:26
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Hmm, yeah like Uncle Stu said, it can't technically be bad to raise Agility, because you can always lower the Agility on your character stats until total Agility is what you prefer (and use the experience points to raise other stats). So then it comes down to whether or not the cost to upgrade is worth it. As Sapo said, maybe just 5 levels.

But then I wonder, why did I see rich level 500 players with endgame rapier with no Agility bonus? Do character stats have a cap? What kind of stats does level 500 player have? Str 500 Dex 500 Agi 500 End 500 Int 500 Wis 500?
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post Sep 15 2017, 23:32
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 15 2017, 23:26) *

But then I wonder, why did I see rich level 500 players with endgame rapier with no Agility bonus? Do character stats have a cap? What kind of stats does level 500 player have? Str 500 Dex 500 Agi 500 End 500 Int 500 Wis 500?

way higher. i'm close to 500 myself.
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post Sep 15 2017, 23:59
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 15 2017, 23:26) *

What kind of stats does level 500 player have? Str 500 Dex 500 Agi 500 End 500 Int 500 Wis 500?

I'm not level 500, but something like this
PAB - Bonus from artifacts shrining - Bonus from equipments

1H Heavy (I always forget to reduce agility)
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Strength 572 +48 +768
Dexterity 572 +48 +763
Agility 450 +48 +58
Endurance 562 +48 +522
Intelligence 400 +48 +0
Wisdom 515 +48 +0        


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Strength 0 +48 +0
Dexterity 509 +48 +0
Agility 559 +48 +469
Endurance 559 +48 +0
Intelligence 564 +48 +683
Wisdom 564 +48 +708


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post Sep 16 2017, 00:22
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i thought more than that ~570, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 16 2017, 01:11
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The actual reason is stated somewhere in this post or in wiki, I think?

You want to move slower within 1 turn so that more monsters run onto a metal wall (that is what a lv500 1H player looks like) and get hurt.

Working on my leg rapier of balance. With butcher 2, it's already beating my crap rap in every aspect. And I finally know why my hit chance never reach 150- using a low-quality slaughter rap.

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post Sep 16 2017, 08:23
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Balance gives way more accuracy and may be underrated. It's not because your Exquisite Rapier was low quality, it's because it was Slaughter.

I did some rough math today. Balance gives about double, or +20% accuracy, which translates to 5% more damage on typical enemies who have ~20% evade (see Overpower discussion a few pages back). Balance also gives double, or +5% critical chance, which translates to roughly 2.5% more damage on a weak player. Therefore a Balance rapier is 7.5% more damage overall.

Slaughter gives about 12 more base ADB on a rapier (more on axes, less on wakizashi) which at level 300 is about +230 damage. That might be a 6% increase in overall attack damage, with regular armor.

However on 1H due to stuns and overwhelming strikes, balance accuracy is not as important for the same reason as Overpower, going down to maybe 1.5% more damage, depending on how you play. But that's still 4% more damage after adding critical. Kind of competitive with Slaughter. If you wear power armor both Rapier of Slaughter and Rapier of Balance will have less effect, I am not sure which would be stronger.

The stat roll range on rapiers is more than the other weapons. Legendary Rapier of Slaughter with minimum ADB roll has about the same base attack damage as other Legendary Rapier with maximum ADB roll...

Another question, is ADB roll really much more important than accuracy/crit roll? Answer is yes, even on Balance, but only because the roll range for accuracy/crit is small...3% accuracy, 1% critical. So the roll range is 10x less meaningful than the roll range for ADB.
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post Sep 16 2017, 08:33
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 16 2017, 09:23) *
If you wear power armor both Rapier of Slaughter and Rapier of Balance will have less effect, I am not sure which would be stronger.


The short answer: Balance is not rated highly because it's painfully easy to get 200%+ accuracy even with full slaughter armor + slaughter weapon at higher levels, and the extra crit chance on Balance doesn't outweigh the extra damage of Slaughter weapons.
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post Sep 16 2017, 12:30
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 16 2017, 08:23) *

Balance gives way more accuracy and may be underrated. It's not because your Exquisite Rapier was low quality, it's because it was Slaughter.

I did some rough math today. Balance gives about double, or +20% accuracy, which translates to 5% more damage on typical enemies

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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 16 2017, 08:23) *
Balance also gives double, or +5% critical chance, which translates to roughly 2.5% more damage on a weak player.

Balance has 5% more critical chance (so let's say 8% fully forged and scaled at high level), so it gives exactly (100- current crit chance) * 8, which in my case is more like 4%.
Given that strikes and counter-attacks don't crit (see research for 1H where 10% crit damage means less than 2.5% damage) the benefit is roughly 2/3 of the one from fat5, so less than 2%.

Compared to the 5.2% benefit from the slaughter suffix it's pretty much nothing.
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post Sep 16 2017, 12:34
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This shield or my shield, which is better? Mine is about 36.2 base block, protection, 6.2 STR, 5.3 DEX and END
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post Sep 16 2017, 13:09
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 16 2017, 12:34) *

This shield or my shield, which is better? Mine is about 36.2 base block, protection, 6.2 STR, 5.3 DEX and END

The one with the higher block, even with worse rolls and suffix.
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post Sep 16 2017, 13:40
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 16 2017, 13:09) *

The one with the higher block, even with worse rolls and suffix.

What if it's SEA but has 48.2 block?
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post Sep 16 2017, 13:59
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 16 2017, 13:40) *

What if it's SEA but has 48.2 block?

I guess you meant 38.2 block, right?
I would get the 37.8 SDE one.
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post Sep 16 2017, 14:00
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 16 2017, 13:40) *

What if it's SEA but has 48.2 block?

When the block is noticeably, you should go always for the higher block. But when the block is nearly the same, you should avoid SEA and such. For my new shield i did sacrifice 0.1 Blockchance to switch from an SDA to an SDE. And 0.1 Blockchance was worth the nearly 80 base End i did get out of it.
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post Sep 16 2017, 14:01
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 16 2017, 13:59) *

I guess you meant 38.2 block, right?
I would get the 37.8 SDE one.

Ok thanks. So gotta bid for this week shield. Time to say good bye to my shield that has been keeping me company since I was 320. It's 38.4 actually

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