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post Sep 13 2017, 15:46
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Sep 13 2017, 16:30) *

Can 1H clear PFfest economically?
I can clear IWfest by using draughts and a few potions.
I try hard to clear PFfest. I can't bear the attack after 600+ rounds. Finally I clear it and use more than 200 SP potions. It seems that IWfest is more economical, isn't it?

On the other hand, to clear IWfest takes me 3h(2t/s) by 1H. I have 10m in hand, how can I clear PFfest economically or clear IWfest faster(maybe within 2h?).

If I want to clear PFfest economically by mage. How much should I spend and What should I spend for?


Mages are actually not a good initial choice for PFfest. Sure, they can theoretically clear it much faster than 1H, but they require an insane amount of upgrades and good gear to last all 1000 rounds, I'd say a few hundred million credits worth at least. There's another discussion going on right now in this thread where a high-level holy mage is having trouble doing just that. I'd say stick to 1H. Mages might rule at arenas, but 1H is the real easy-mode for PFfests (unless you have godlike mage gear).

And it's hard to say what you should spend it on without knowing what you already have. For comparison, see the setup in my sig. It takes me about 1h35m to clear PFfest. No potions or elixirs of any kind, only a few Spark triggers per fest. Keep up with your draughts and the occasional Cure, and it's smooth sailing all the way. Well, unless something like this happens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 13 2017, 16:42
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QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 13 2017, 15:46) *

And it's hard to say what you should spend it on without knowing what you already have. For comparison, see the setup in my sig. It takes me about 1h35m to clear PFfest. No potions or elixirs of any kind, only a few Spark triggers per fest. Keep up with your draughts and the occasional Cure, and it's smooth sailing all the way. Well, unless something like this happens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Thank you very much! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
maybe I can change all my power gears to slaughter first.
But the incredible amout of BoS and RA make me feel despairing. It seems that I have a long way to go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Sep 13 2017, 17:16
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Sep 13 2017, 16:42) *

Thank you very much! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
maybe I can change all my power gears to slaughter first.
But the incredible amout of BoS and RA make me feel despairing. It seems that I have a long way to go. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

upgrade your armors to lv5. when you do that, you'll be quite safe for a while. 25 actuators, so roughly 1.5M expense
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post Sep 13 2017, 17:46
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QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 13 2017, 15:46) *

Mages are actually not a good initial choice for PFfest. Sure, they can theoretically clear it much faster than 1H, but they require an insane amount of upgrades and good gear to last all 1000 rounds, I'd say a few hundred million credits worth at least. There's another discussion going on right now in this thread where a high-level holy mage is having trouble doing just that. I'd say stick to 1H. Mages might rule at arenas, but 1H is the real easy-mode for PFfests (unless you have godlike mage gear).

And it's hard to say what you should spend it on without knowing what you already have. For comparison, see the setup in my sig. It takes me about 1h35m to clear PFfest. No potions or elixirs of any kind, only a few Spark triggers per fest. Keep up with your draughts and the occasional Cure, and it's smooth sailing all the way. Well, unless something like this happens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I decided to go mage to do PFest and now I'm really having second thoughts. I can do PFest quite comfortably now at around 2 hours/fest, with my (in sign) meh set of armors and lame shield.
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post Sep 13 2017, 18:42
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So I'm gonna shrine about 1000+ trophies in about 12 hours (mostly SG trophies, with a few Saplings and Noodlies). What's really the best to bother with shrining to, Cloth? I figure I'll likely only get a few Magnificents at best so after I dump the rest I'll probably get a few HGCs.
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post Sep 13 2017, 18:43
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Sep 13 2017, 18:42) *

So I'm gonna shrine about 1000+ trophies in about 12 hours (mostly SG trophies, with a few Saplings and Noodlies). What's really the best to bother with shrining to, Cloth? I figure I'll likely only get a few Magnificents at best so after I dump the rest I'll probably get a few HGCs.


best is to sell them to blackjac00

Otherwise: cloth for best credit return. Or Staff if you just want to gamble. But you will lose.
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post Sep 13 2017, 23:17
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Sep 13 2017, 18:43) *

best is to sell them to blackjac00

And we are done here.
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post Sep 14 2017, 02:10
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That is always something that pissed me off when my internet was again playing dead dog and i need again three hours for T&T.

Wait, I thought I was one of the slowest players. It takes me three hours for Eternal Darkness 125 arena. (Actually it only takes me two hours, but when it starts to get that long, I cannot play without taking breaks). I'm not sure but I think I can clear Trio and Tree in one hour, at one turn/second (my maximum with current setup).
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post Sep 14 2017, 04:08
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 14 2017, 02:10) *

Wait, I thought I was one of the slowest players. It takes me three hours for Eternal Darkness 125 arena. (Actually it only takes me two hours, but when it starts to get that long, I cannot play without taking breaks). I'm not sure but I think I can clear Trio and Tree in one hour, at one turn/second (my maximum with current setup).

I use Mobile Internet. Mostly 3G, but sometimes the 3 goes shopping or make a threesome and what i got as replacement is a instable 2 in front of the G. BTW my record is around three hours and a few minutes for a single RE with five monster. That feeling with the max speed of your connection dont even need a k in front of the B to tell you the speed, just priceless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Sep 14 2017, 08:19
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 14 2017, 04:08) *

I use Mobile Internet. Mostly 3G, but sometimes the 3 goes shopping or make a threesome and what i got as replacement is a instable 2 in front of the G. BTW my record is around three hours and a few minutes for a single RE with five monster. That feeling with the max speed of your connection dont even need a k in front of the B to tell you the speed, just priceless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


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post Sep 14 2017, 09:52
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Is Dovahkiin rank less usefull.?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Ranks

Because Godslayer gives "+10% Physical Damage +3% Evade"

Does Dovahkiin also give Physical Damage bonus or not?
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post Sep 14 2017, 09:56
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 14 2017, 03:52) *

Is Dovahkiin rank less usefull.?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Ranks

Because Godslayer gives "+10% Physical Damage +3% Evade"

Does Dovahkiin also give Physical Damage bonus or not?


Only gives the Fus-Ro-Dah skill. It's a mass stun but besides that not very good.
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post Sep 14 2017, 11:36
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[attachembed=108551]

I wonder exactly what this means.
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post Sep 14 2017, 14:04
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Sep 14 2017, 17:36) *

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I wonder exactly what this means.

Starving

A starving monster will lose morale 50%(?) quicker.
After 90 days of starving a monster will cease to participate in battles and will be un-named.
Monsters that are 1,000+ PL are immune to this.
Right on the same page.
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post Sep 14 2017, 14:39
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QUOTE(issary @ Sep 14 2017, 21:04) *

Starving

A starving monster will lose morale 50%(?) quicker.
After 90 days of starving a monster will cease to participate in battles and will be un-named.
Monsters that are 1,000+ PL are immune to this.
Right on the same page.

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post Sep 14 2017, 17:42
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QUOTE(issary @ Sep 14 2017, 14:04) *

Starving

A starving monster will lose morale 50%(?) quicker.
After 90 days of starving a monster will cease to participate in battles and will be un-named.
Monsters that are 1,000+ PL are immune to this.
Right on the same page.


Frankly, I find it very unfair. What's the deal when your monster won't be deleted at all anyway? You're not losing your investment in it, but at the same time you're preventing another player from using that name. A monster with zero morale and zero hunger should be deactivated and unnamed, period. If the player wants it back, he just feeds it and name it again.
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post Sep 14 2017, 17:44
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QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 13 2017, 09:46) *
I'd say a few hundred million credits worth at least.

A elemental mage here can survive PFGF cost much less,list my cheap gears here

Staff
Cap
Robe
Gloves
Pants
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finish a GF around 8650 turns,sometimes get killed of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 14 2017, 17:53
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Frankly, I find it very unfair. What's the deal when your monster won't be deleted at all anyway? You're not losing your investment in it, but at the same time you're preventing another player from using that name. A monster with zero morale and zero hunger should be deactivated and unnamed, period. If the player wants it back, he just feeds it and name it again.

I personally do agree with you. It is not like I am trying to protest or ask Tenboro to just things, but your way of thinking I prefer more, I believe the model "feed or it will be deleted" is more fair.

Or there is some reason behind that rule?
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post Sep 14 2017, 18:09
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QUOTE(Kira.Yoshikage @ Sep 14 2017, 17:44) *

A elemental mage here can survive PFGF cost much less,list my cheap gears here

Staff
Cap
Robe
Gloves
Pants
Shoes

finish a GF around 8650 turns,sometimes get killed of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

How much did you spend on that build?
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post Sep 14 2017, 22:07
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I find the monster feeding rules perfect as is. Keeping the name seems a fair reward for raising a strong monster. They still have incentive to feed, otherwise the monster will stop stop giving gifts. Also, the name incentive helps to prevent build-up of level 400 player-killer monsters that f4tal hates, haha.

I am not sure if f4tal's words suggested to delete entirely, but that would be bad.



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