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post Sep 12 2017, 17:09
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Sep 12 2017, 16:52) *

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I wonder how much Static Ranges can go up

what's this? H@H, right?
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post Sep 12 2017, 17:14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 13 2017, 00:09) *

what's this? H@H, right?

yes
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post Sep 12 2017, 17:19
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Which kind of shields are considered near end level.
(An example of un-upgraded/ without upgrade shield would be great . because I am still not able judge quality when any equipment is upgraded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )
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post Sep 12 2017, 17:30
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 12 2017, 17:19) *

Which kind of shields are considered near end level.
(An example of un-upgraded/ without upgrade shield would be great . because I am still not able judge quality when any equipment is upgraded (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) )
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force shields with SDE and... uh... 80+ block? for 1H.

bucklers of barrier with DEA and possibly Reinforced prefix for 1H mage. not too high block needed, but it doesn't hurt.

also, consider that at high levels and with full forge, 1% base block difference may be roughly equal to 1% block chance on your char, but not too relevant for PF arenas. possibly for Peerless IWs and PF-GF, but surely not for arenas.
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post Sep 12 2017, 17:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 21:00) *

force shields with SDE and... uh... 80+ block? for 1H.

bucklers of barrier with DEA and possibly Reinforced prefix for 1H mage. not too high block needed, but it doesn't hurt.

also, consider that at high levels and with full forge, 1% base block difference may be roughly equal to 1% block chance on your char, but not too relevant for PF arenas. possibly for Peerless IWs and PF-GF, but surely not for arenas.

DEA? SDE?
Not in wiki
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms.
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80+ base block value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Sorry, but I didn't understand most of those terminologies. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Currently I rely solely on base value before purchasing an equipment then I soulfuse them. because after soulfuse there value adjust accordingly to base values.
Can I have an example of equipment and estimated cost in auctions
Thanks
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post Sep 12 2017, 17:52
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 12 2017, 18:45) *

DEA? SDE?


Dexterity + Endurance + Agility
Strength + Dexterity + Endurance

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80+ base block value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Means 80% of the highest possible value. 100% would be perfect (peerless), and 0% would be worst possible roll.

Just make life easier for yourself and use Super's percentile ranges script for estimating how good the equipment pieces are.
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post Sep 12 2017, 18:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 21:00) *

force shields with SDE and... uh... 80+ block? for 1H.

QUOTE(friggo @ Sep 12 2017, 21:22) *

Dexterity + Endurance + Agility
Strength + Dexterity + Endurance


Thanks

So the issue with my Force shield is that it has Primary Attribute as Agility . That is why it is not great
Am i Right?

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post Sep 12 2017, 19:01
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 12 2017, 19:55) *

Thanks

So the issue with my Force shield is that it has Primary Attribute as Agility . That is why it is not great
Am i Right?

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Right.

Agility is largely useless for 1H compared to Dexterity. That's why non-SDE force shields are much cheaper than the SDE ones.
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post Sep 12 2017, 22:22
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Maybe my standards are too low but I would already consider ALL_MIGHT to have endgame rapier and shield. Well, check the block on shield first. I'm too lazy to remove the effect of upgrades or install script, so someone else do it please. :)

Strength Endurance Agility on your shield is not perfect but to me it's fine. Strength and Endurance are the most desirable. I think Dexterity is not as useful on 1H because it already has enough accuracy, so it's just damage boost. Agility is partially useless on 1H but still gives physical mitigation.

Your shield has peerless burden and interference, and maybe the best suffix and element. I would accept even a block much below 80% as endgame considering that.
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post Sep 12 2017, 22:51
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 12 2017, 22:22) *

Maybe my standards are too low but I would already consider ALL_MIGHT to have endgame rapier and shield. Well, check the block on shield first. I'm too lazy to remove the effect of upgrades or install script, so someone else do it please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Strength Endurance Agility on your shield is not perfect but to me it's fine. Strength and Endurance are the most desirable. I think Dexterity is not as useful on 1H because it already has enough accuracy, so it's just damage boost. Agility is partially useless on 1H but still gives physical mitigation.

Your shield has peerless burden and interference, and maybe the best suffix and element. I would accept even a block much below 80% as endgame considering that.

hmm...

1. do you have excel? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
2. even without considering ACC (which is useless past a certain point) DEX boosts pretty much everything: ADB, Crit, Parry... it's useful for *ever* style, even mages. i'd give up STR before DEX, personally.
3. P BUR and ITR are unrelevant on a shield. like suffix and element are.
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post Sep 12 2017, 23:36
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I forgot Dexterity also gives crit and parry. Dexterity it is, then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I agree that element, suffix, and burden are essentially irrelevant on a shield. Still cool though. Goes well with his ethereal rapier.

Interference I think is important, though it becomes less important at higher levels and with better equipment. We aren't at the level yet where we can ignore interference. Though I guess since the question was whether this is an endgame shield, interference could be ignored.
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 12 2017, 22:51) *

1. do you have excel? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Who needs excel, when there is open office?
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:19
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 13 2017, 01:10) *

Who needs excel, when there is open office?

uh, fair enough. but i developed my spreadsheets with excel 2010, so i can grant for them to be ocmpatible with it (possibly with 2007, 2013 and 2016 as well), but no clue about openoffice.

most likely only a few formatting things will be gone, but who knows...
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 13 2017, 01:19) *

but no clue about openoffice.

It does. And now you know that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 13 2017, 04:49) *

uh, fair enough. but i developed my spreadsheets with excel 2010, so i can grant for them to be ocmpatible with it (possibly with 2007, 2013 and 2016 as well), but no clue about openoffice.

most likely only a few formatting things will be gone, but who knows...

what about libreoffice 5.1 (i use it)?
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Sep 13 2017, 01:10) *

Who needs excel, when there is open office?


I work with both and I have to say excel is vastly superior. Well it's like comparing an expensive restaurant meal and a free one.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 13 2017, 01:19) *

most likely only a few formatting things will be gone, but who knows...


And you will have to rewrite all macro.

QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 13 2017, 01:23) *

what about libreoffice 5.1 (i use it)?
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Isn't it openoffice?

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I work with both and I have to say excel is vastly superior. Well it's like comparing an expensive restaurant meal and a free one.

Ah, see? Thats the different. You work with it, i dont. I just use it once in a while, for just use once in a while open office is perfect.
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:38
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And now we have a choice of google sheet to share...
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:40
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QUOTE(as013 @ Sep 13 2017, 01:26) *

QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 13 2017, 01:23)

what about libreoffice 5.1 (i use it)?



Isn't it openoffice?


No, it isn't. It's a different fork, and imo Libreoffice is superior to OpenOffice in quite a few aspects.

Not last, the support of non-native file formats in input.
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post Sep 13 2017, 01:47
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QUOTE(buimon @ Sep 13 2017, 01:38) *

And now we have a choice of google sheet to share...


As much as I want to say good things about it, the only thing I can think of is the ease of sharing. Everything else is horrible.
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