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post Sep 4 2017, 06:57
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 3 2017, 19:34) *

Final round only is the way to go.
Exhausting spirit stance in any of the rounds before = losing time to recharge OC and enabling spirit stance again.
As for how I initially start spirit stance, I just enable it once I reached 50 OC (2 full OC pips) and it'll eventually fill itself anyway, given that I have at least 3 monsters per round.



QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 3 2017, 22:08) *

I don't think this is a problem, in 50 turns you can't recharge 210 OC anyway so toggling out SS actually let's you recharge OFC faster.
The ideal would be:
round x: OFC
round x+1: automatically out of spirit stance
round x+y (with y <=10): enable spirit stance
round x + 50: OFC again
then repeat

In my quick testing the damage loss of having SS off for <10 turns + 1 turn loss for enabling SS is may be less than waiting 20-30 turns more for OC to fully recharge.
(actually tested on a 97 rounds PFUDOR IW so it's not exactly the same as SG arenas but whatever)
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Speaking of 1H it's not vastly different since 0.85, vital strike it's now a pretty good solution for when there is only 1 or 2 SG, less OC cost and similar damage, the only drawback is that you must use it on stunned monsters, which means more micro-managing.
I think it's something that you need to test it out, it may depends on how fast you are at micro-managing and how long does it take to kill a SG.
The only think I would say it's mandatory it's to either have a rapier and inflict some PA or use imperil before hitting with OFC or Vital Strike, 3XPA applied more than double the damage, letting you, in some case, one-shot the SG (in case of konata from nearly full health, the others need to be weakened a bit first).

There are probably some video of me doing SG runs here.
Note that I would now surely use vital strike with 1 SG and, possibly, with 2 SG (I would need to do, at least, 4-5 days of 1H to really be confident, and 1H is too fucking slow).
Imperil if it makes you faster (depends on t/s, damage, etc etc).


Thank you. i'll have a try as what you said.
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post Sep 4 2017, 07:06
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I got quite a few Magnificent and Legendary gears when I was around Level 200, but I have not gotten any more in a long time. Are there any particular tricks to get more Legendary gears? I am currently able to beat all Arenas and Ring of Blood on PFUDOR without excessive potions, but it does take me 1~3 hours to clear the higher Arenas.

In particular, at present I'm trying to keep my level low, so my goal is to maximize the chances of getting Legendary gear relative to the amount of experience gained.

If I do Eternal Darkness arena on PFUDOR, I will gain 2.5x experience which is undesirable, plus I will fight mostly Schoolgirls who drop poor trophies, all for one better equipment drop at the end. If I do Eternal Darkness on Normal, I won't gain much experience but would hoard up Schoolgirl trophies, which might work.

Trio and the Tree would yield one good equipment drop at the end plus a Sapling trophy, but give a lot of undesirable experience.

To Kill a God, Dreamfall, or Killzone would have a big swarm at the last fight and maximize the chances of a good equipment drop from a monster, though the Arena clear equipment will be worse. Kind of like doing Random Encounters which might also be the best way since you only need to do the one fight.
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post Sep 4 2017, 07:25
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 4 2017, 07:06) *

I got quite a few Magnificent and Legendary gears when I was around Level 200, but I have not gotten any more in a long time. Are there any particular tricks to get more Legendary gears? I am currently able to beat all Arenas and Ring of Blood on PFUDOR without excessive potions, but it does take me 1~3 hours to clear the higher Arenas.

In particular, at present I'm trying to keep my level low, so my goal is to maximize the chances of getting Legendary gear relative to the amount of experience gained.

If I do Eternal Darkness arena on PFUDOR, I will gain 2.5x experience which is undesirable, plus I will fight mostly Schoolgirls who drop poor trophies, all for one better equipment drop at the end. If I do Eternal Darkness on Normal, I won't gain much experience but would hoard up Schoolgirl trophies, which might work.

Trio and the Tree would yield one good equipment drop at the end plus a Sapling trophy, but give a lot of undesirable experience.

To Kill a God, Dreamfall, or Killzone would have a big swarm at the last fight and maximize the chances of a good equipment drop from a monster, though the Arena clear equipment will be worse. Kind of like doing Random Encounters which might also be the best way since you only need to do the one fight.



At your level, the game is very hard. What I did is buy a Gold Star around that level, that helps. Keep playing 1h melee, rapier and force shield and power armors, and you'll get through this hard part of the game.
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post Sep 4 2017, 08:08
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I haven't tried or used IW even a single time till now.
(my equipment were not worth it.)

But as everybody know nowadays ,Snowflake is angry with IW and ruins equipments.

So should i IW my below two equipments or should i just focus on upgrading them?

Rapier
Force Shield

And if answer is upgrade what attributes are important to upgrade in Rapier and Force Shield (beside block chance)
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post Sep 4 2017, 08:08
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Sep 3 2017, 22:06) *


In particular, at present I'm trying to keep my level low, so my goal is to maximize the chances of getting Legendary gear relative to the amount of experience gained.




This is EXACTLY what I tried to do from the lower 200s to about lvl 405.
At 405, game over. It was too late, and I failed horribly.

The mistake I made was the Arenas.
As you said, they don't pay off when it comes to equipment.
Even DwD gives an exquisite 99% of the time.
The Arenas are Trophy and Token farms. That's it.
My failure was the insanity of repeating it day after day expecting equipment to drop.
It never did... Never.

I have found IW has been the most fruitful for dropping equipment.
But you must play on PFUDOR and it's excruciating to make it through.

I've never tried IW PFUDOR on crude equipment, it may be easier.
I'd at least give that route a try for a couple of weeks.
Disclaimer: I think the IWs still yank a stamina point from you when you open it.
I'm sure the grindfests yank a point.

But follow your own advice. Do not expect a flow of Legendaries from the Arenas.
From experience... it's not going to happen there for you.

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post Sep 4 2017, 09:07
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Is this a worthwhile upgrade for the money?

What I have

What I am looking at getting
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post Sep 4 2017, 09:16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 4 2017, 00:32) *

4. it depends how many slots you have. personally i'd say Spark > Shadow Veil > Spirit Shield > Haste > Protection. but i may be slightly wrong.

I would rate spirit shield and haste above ahadow veil.
And Spark, Spirit Shield, Shadow Veil and Haste needs to be in IA.
Manually casting protection is the only valid exception (I got IA5 2 weeks after going mage anyway, autocasting is so much better).

QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Sep 4 2017, 08:08) *

Disclaimer: I think the IWs still yank a stamina point from you when you open it.
I'm sure the grindfests yank a point.

No, for IW you just pay the stamina cost at the start.
The point loss for IW was quickly removed after 0.85.

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 4 2017, 09:07) *

Is this a worthwhile upgrade for the money?

What I have

What I am looking at getting

Well, depends on the cost.
Mag is not that good but the legendary have an awful ADB roll.
If it's a cheap upgrade why not?

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post Sep 4 2017, 09:16
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Sep 4 2017, 01:07) *

Is this a worthwhile upgrade for the money?

What I have

What I am looking at getting



not worth upgrading and those leggings are overpriced mufftrash. wait for an auction and you could get a 10-40% for less than 2 mill easy. 9% is a joke, you're better off buying peerless protection.

if you're going to buy slaughter gear try not to buy pieces under 50% cause that is end game gear for melee.
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post Sep 4 2017, 09:34
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Sep 4 2017, 00:16) *

not worth upgrading and those leggings are overpriced mufftrash. wait for an auction and you could get a 10-40% for less than 2 mill easy. 9% is a joke, you're better off buying peerless protection.

if you're going to buy slaughter gear try not to buy pieces under 50% cause that is end game gear for melee.

Gotcha. I wish Leg slaughter had a bigger ADB differential. I need at least +1000 to cut down monster fights by only one turn. 0.85 made things so much more tedious at Normal and "hahahaha lolno yer gonna be here awhile" at PF.
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post Sep 4 2017, 10:12
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Does casting low level spell many times / round increase the amount of proficiency I get each round?
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post Sep 4 2017, 10:17
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Does casting low level spell many times / round increase the amount of proficiency I get each round?


No.

This was one of the changes of the recent update. It doesn't matter if you cast Imperil 1 time or 100 times per round, you still get the same amount of deprecating proficiency.
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post Sep 4 2017, 10:44
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 4 2017, 08:08) *

I haven't tried or used IW even a single time till now.
(my equipment were not worth it.)

But as everybody know nowadays ,Snowflake is angry with IW and ruins equipments.

So should i IW my below two equipments or should i just focus on upgrading them?

Rapier
Force Shield

And if answer is upgrade what attributes are important to upgrade in Rapier and Force Shield (beside block chance)
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Forget about IWing your shield, it's not that useful.
As for your rapier, it's already a bit too late to reforge it. If it wasn't soulbound, you could have paid someone for an IW service and get the good potencies, but now that you are there, you'd better finish your IW and take whatever is given to you. Just pray that you don't get Swift Strike and if you don't get it it's already very good. Unless you're wanting to use that Rapier for DW in which case swift strike is good.

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post Sep 4 2017, 11:03
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help
the game is too hard for me, my eye is very sore form palying it
my t/s is 0.800 to 1.3 or even slower. i have done everything to improve this but i've given up
i play 1h

my credits right now are most likely zero
because i alswys spen them to buy magnificents at autcions

what is the most ideal thing to do at my level and also considering my ping, im thinking to save up credits to invest for adept learner currently220 to 300 and exp gain hathperks to level up faster

or to invest to get legends and forge them?

is it bad that i've never forged and soulfused any of my armor?
shield = unforged no iw shield
helmet = 1pabsuperi
armor = 1pab superior
hands (2pab) http://hentaiverse.org/equip/117932059/1aac10f8e4
leggin http://hentaiverse.org/equip/116008597/e5deca44ea
boot http://hentaiverse.org/equip/134518989/1b05bac4a5

do i really have to forge and soulfuse my gears?

and i have been using this rapier
http://hentaiverse.org/equip/128589139/3a7aa11106
for over half a year already, is it ideal to look for a new one?
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post Sep 4 2017, 12:13
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help
the game is too hard for me, my eye is very sore form palying it
my t/s is 0.800 to 1.3 or even slower. i have done everything to improve this but i've given up
i play 1h

my credits right now are most likely zero
because i alswys spen them to buy magnificents at autcions

what is the most ideal thing to do at my level and also considering my ping, im thinking to save up credits to invest for adept learner currently220 to 300 and exp gain hathperks to level up faster

or to invest to get legends and forge them?

is it bad that i've never forged and soulfused any of my armor?
shield = unforged no iw shield
helmet = 1pabsuperi
armor = 1pab superior
hands (2pab) http://hentaiverse.org/equip/117932059/1aac10f8e4
leggin http://hentaiverse.org/equip/116008597/e5deca44ea
boot http://hentaiverse.org/equip/134518989/1b05bac4a5

do i really have to forge and soulfuse my gears?

and i have been using this rapier
http://hentaiverse.org/equip/128589139/3a7aa11106
for over half a year already, is it ideal to look for a new one?


A lot of things to do:
1) Optimize your computer. So disable indexing and all the useless services.
2) Turn off your antivirus while playing. And perform a few scans in case you have a trojan or something.
3) Run CCleaner.
4) Smack all useless backgrounds processes like Adobe Updater and all.
5) Play HV on Chrome if it's not already the case. And disable all Chrome's bullshit activity like tracking, sending reports or God knows what.
6) Try to play with regular HTTP instead of HTTPS, or alt.hentaiverse.org
7) Don't use your ISP's DNS. Use Google's or OpenDNS (which I highly recommend). I did experience huge lag issues in the past due to that. Don't forget to set it up for both IPv4 and IPv6.
8) If the game's becomming too hard, favor Power of Protection instead of Power of Slaughter. Don't be afraid to use a few deprecating spells aswell if necessary: Silence and Weaken rock for 1H.

As for your IW/Forging issues... don't both IWing your armor unless it's really the only thing left you have to do. Don't forge Mag Power aswell, it's a waste of rare materials. Focus on getting Legs/Peerless and focus your priority in forging your weapon+shield, IWing your weapon.
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post Sep 4 2017, 12:31
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Regarding speed I want to share my experience. Might be useful to others.


Even after using monsterbation script and hover functions my turn/ sec were low.

Then I key bind everyfuction and attack to be fast.
But even then maximum turn per sec I reached was 1.75

Then
I installed Chrome Canary separate browser just for HV.
And now my turn per second is 2.95
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Sep 4 2017, 12:31) *

Regarding speed I want to share my experience. Might be useful to others.


Even after using monsterbation script and hover functions my turn/ sec were low.

Then I key bind everyfuction and attack to be fast.
But even then maximum turn per sec I reached was 1.75

Then
I installed Chrome Canary separate browser just for HV.
And now my turn per second is 2.95
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Portable Chrome for my part.
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post Sep 4 2017, 13:03
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ok thank you

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Sep 4 2017, 12:13) *

7) Don't use your ISP's DNS. Use Google's or OpenDNS (which I highly recommend). I did experience huge lag issues in the past due to that. Don't forget to set it up for both IPv4 and IPv6.

i can understand using OpenDNS (i do it as well), but isn't setting them for IPv4 enough?

eventually, what are their IPv6 addresses?
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post Sep 4 2017, 14:17
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assuming my t/s would be permanently 0.700 to 1.3

because i have almost toatlly given up on my ping

i appreciate all what decondelite and All Might said but my pc is just and old windows vista on a 10yr.old laptop whose backlight is destroyed i use an external monitor for the display

there arent so manyh browsers that are compatible with win vista

in the first palce my maximum downlod speed is 1mb/s(torrenting)

and i only use pocket wifi because im poverty in real life and i live in the mountains we dont have utility poles/

column that has landline dsl fibre internet access

the road to our home isnt even surfaced with cement

i live very remotely from our underdevelpoed city

so

aside from what decondelite said that i should get leg gears and forge them

what are other ideal things that i can do considering my slow t/s?

what about innate arcana 4 & 5 will it help me or i should invest on others?

and coming back to my question earlier:and i have been using this rapier
http://hentaiverse.org/equip/128589139/3a7aa11106
for over half a year already, is it ideal to look for a new one?
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QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 4 2017, 14:17) *

what are other ideal things that i can do considering my slow t/s?

you may try switching to mage. t/s will be roughly the same (if not a bit slower), but number of turns should be considerably lowered. it would require a certain initial investment though.

QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 4 2017, 14:17) *

what about innate arcana 4 & 5 will it help me or i should invest on others?

depends on your playstyle. 1H is fine with IA3. other styles could take advantage from IA4

QUOTE(jplshejeser @ Sep 4 2017, 14:17) *

and coming back to my question earlier:and i have been using this rapier
http://hentaiverse.org/equip/128589139/3a7aa11106
for over half a year already, is it ideal to look for a new one?

you may start looking for auctions, yep. a mid-tier Leg one shouldn't be too expensive
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