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That's one of the merits of the new patch: full phase is now possible! I wonder if we'll see a rise in elemental staff price?

Elementalist staves always could go full-phase since they have no problem going over 0.7 prof without prof pieces.

Hmmm...After AFK at version0.6x, I just come back for 2 weeks, because I realize I got some haths to waste... And I did.

Questions:
Recently I bought pony cannon. I suppose I would continue 1-H until at least 400.
Playing at IWBTH is somewhat safe now, though T&T usually takes 20+min to deal with.
I use cannon when there are more than 8 monsters, and stab the remaining schoolgirl slowly...Then how can I speed up? Do I use cannon the right way? Should I save haths for Manehattan Project?
And when should I try PFUDOR?

You're doing it very wrong. With 1H, you should never use OFC to begin with in SG arenas. Just stab the SGs to death while the rest suicides on your shield.

You're doing it very wrong. With 1H, you should never use OFC to begin with in SG arenas. Just stab the SGs to death while the rest suicides on your shield.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Finally my question is answered. Thx!

I just switched from 2H to 1H. How good is Savage Power (non slaughter) gear for 1H compared to Slaughter. It's a significant difference? Is worth to invest on it if I already have soulfused a full set of savage? or should I focus my savings on a high ADB rapier of slaughter?

I just switched from 2H to 1H. How good is Savage Power (non slaughter) gear for 1H compared to Slaughter. It's a significant difference? Is worth to invest on it if I already have soulfused a full set of savage? or should I focus my savings on a high ADB rapier of slaughter?

Well that is a hard decision. Savage gives you higher crit damage, but without high damage to beginn with, you dont get that much of an increase out of it. I thought a while about this and i think, when are not able to effort a savage slaughter set, but savage and slaughter equipment, the best idea would be to mix them up. And focus on a high ADB rapier is never wrong, if your weapon is shit, i suggest improve the weapon first and take a look at your armor later on.

I just switched from 2H to 1H. How good is Savage Power (non slaughter) gear for 1H compared to Slaughter. It's a significant difference? Is worth to invest on it if I already have soulfused a full set of savage? or should I focus my savings on a high ADB rapier of slaughter?

well, savage prefix is preferrable whenever appliable. but general consensuous is that Slaughter > Savage non-Slaughter. guess this comes because crit are more random than standard ADB

when are not able to effort a savage slaughter set, but savage and slaughter equipment, the best idea would be to mix them up.
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i suggest improve the weapon first and take a look at your armor later on.

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Well that is a hard decision. Savage gives you higher crit damage, but without high damage to beginn with, you dont get that much of an increase out of it. I thought a while about this and i think, when are not able to effort a savage slaughter set, but savage and slaughter equipment, the best idea would be to mix them up. And focus on a high ADB rapier is never wrong, if your weapon is shit, i suggest improve the weapon first and take a look at your armor later on.

well, savage prefix is preferrable whenever appliable. but general consensuous is that Slaughter > Savage non-Slaughter. guess this comes because crit are more random than standard ADB
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Nice, thanks

Nice, thanks

You're welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

but general consensuous is that Slaughter > Savage non-Slaughter. guess this comes because crit are more random than standard ADB

Also strikes and counter-attacks don't crit.
The benefit from savage prefix is roughly 1/3 that of slaughter suffix (obviously savage has no useful alternatives while protection/balance/warding are useful in their own way).

In style DW, what is the best combination if I have a rapier of balance in the Off Hand ?. I read the wiki and there are those of club + rapier, rapier + waki..etc. But I would like to know the opinion of the experts

Report: I passed PF T&T, and don't feel much difference from IWBTH.

But I suspect SGs in PF Arena are much stronger?

This post has been edited by buimon: Aug 31 2017, 07:09

In style DW, what is the best combination if I have a rapier of balance in the Off Hand ?. I read the wiki and there are those of club + rapier, rapier + waki..etc. But I would like to know the opinion of the experts

I've always used club/rapier because stun allows you to hit things without having to worry about parry/overpower. Currently using the ones in my sig with full shadowdancer shade.

You could use mainhand rapier offhand waki, but you'd have to go for overpower on both pieces to make sure you don't get parried. It does afford you more of the parry stat for yourself though, which boosts your survivabilty.

In style DW, what is the best combination if I have a rapier of balance in the Off Hand ?. I read the wiki and there are those of club + rapier, rapier + waki..etc. But I would like to know the opinion of the experts

It all depends on what you need the most: survivability or max damage? For survivability you want a Club, for super duper damage you want an Axe (highest base damage) or a Shortsword (best accuracy+more damage than waki). Wakis are only ever needed as offhand for their parry stat.

It all depends on what you need the most: survivability or max damage? For survivability you want a Club, for super duper damage you want an Axe (highest base damage) or a Shortsword (best accuracy+more damage than waki). Wakis are only ever needed as offhand for their parry stat.

I disagree with club = survivability for DW. If anything Club is the best for max damage, because you can roll Butcher+Fatality on both the rapier and club, while with Axe you'd have to roll Overpower on both of them, which lowers your crit damage and ADB. Also bleed kinda sucks.

Except that you need your target to be stunned in order not to need overpower. With the crap accuracy of a Club, good luck to hit a target without either stun or OP. Not to mention that in all cases your counterattack will occur on non-stunned targets.
And frankly, when one plays 1H, he choses what target to attack, it's not "I'm gonna attack whatever is stunned in order not to need OP". Talk about a headache.

And who talked about bleeding? You don't need to proc at all anyway when you're using max damage. The only moment bleeding is any useful when playing 1H, it's against SGs, in which case it's way more useful than stunning it.

Some people around here are starting to ask themselves if Leg Ethereal Axe of Slaughter could become a new meta, it's not for nothing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

For now in my level what I put in priority is survival, therefore go for Maximum damage I do not think it is very wise.

Then Slaughter's Club + Balance rapier would be the best?

Shortswords are better than wakis?

This post has been edited by rokyroky: Aug 31 2017, 08:43

Except that you need your target to be stunned in order not to need overpower. With the crap accuracy of a Club, good luck to hit a target without either stun or OP. Not to mention that in all cases your counterattack will occur on non-stunned targets.
And frankly, when one plays 1H, he choses what target to attack, it's not "I'm gonna attack whatever is stunned in order not to need OP". Talk about a headache.

And who talked about bleeding? You don't need to proc at all anyway when you're using max damage. The only moment bleeding is any useful when playing 1H, it's against SGs, in which case it's way more useful than stunning it.

Some people around here are starting to ask themselves if Leg Ethereal Axe of Slaughter could become a new meta, it's not for nothing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

We're talking about DW though. And I have over 200% accuracy with a club. I don't know where you're getting 1H from.

Shortswords are not really better than wakis. It's just that they are more oriented toward attack rather than defense.
But for your needs: yep a club of slaughter is good. But if you've got a decent power set to raise its damage output, maybe you'd want a club of the nimble to really max out your defense capabilities.

In the end you will just need to try it out to see if it goes well or not.

with a rapier of balance majority of users tend to use a Club of Slaughter. possibly with high Butcher/Fatality levels on both.
you may also use Axe + Rapier, but apart for needing a bit of Overpower (from my personal experience, 4~6 should be enough) you may need to forge the Axe quite a bit. i'd consider it on higher levels.
Shortsword + Rapier seems like a jack-of-all, master-of-none chance. less attack than club/axe, more defense than club/axe. may be viable until you find a club.


also, regarding wakis: waki users don't use them because BW process, ADB or whatever, but for their safety. wakis of nimble currently have the highest parry in the whole game (you can reach 90% on your build) and wakis in general have the highest DEX/AGI rolls. consider that 25 AGI = 1 Evade and 25 DEX = 1 Parry and 1 Crit chance...

Thanks for the advice. I will go for the Club + rapier. I'll start looking for the club, I do not have one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

That of the axes confuses me a little. At higher levels is it good to leave the Stun for BW?