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Mar 26 2020, 16:05
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(Juggernaut Santa @ Mar 26 2020, 05:37)  The fun part is that Soulfuse dude buys a whole lot of stuff from bazaar. A lot of stuff I've spotted has been bought from him. Mostly trash. A lot of trash. Level 500 trash (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well, then he deserved to get that peerless ... at least a good buy to average it out with the bad ones (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Mar 26 2020, 23:39
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Mar 26 2020, 15:05)  Well, then he deserved to get that peerless ... at least a good buy to average it out with the bad ones (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Not really worth much since plain prefix For sure not bazaar but not a super achievement either.
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Apr 24 2020, 19:04
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k1863162
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Apr 28 2020, 21:01
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k1863162
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Apr 30 2020, 02:38
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Shank
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QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 01:30)  while i was trying to figure out if it was worth the cost/grinding to (f)use.
It wasn't QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 01:30)  System better be a real person.
It isn't
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Apr 30 2020, 02:43
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okayno
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it was a solid upgrade over what I'm stuck with thanks to the dead equipment market. I've never liked the 1hpower or mage metas. It wasn't even on the bazaar for 24 hours or I just missed it, because the bazaar interface is garbage.
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Apr 30 2020, 02:57
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Shank
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QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 01:43)  it was a solid upgrade over what I'm stuck with thanks to the dead equipment market. I've never liked the 1hpower or mage metas. It wasn't even on the bazaar for 24 hours or I just missed it, because the bazaar interface is garbage.
No such item, so possibly bought and salvaged, if it didn't just run out of time. Legendary fleets are pretty cheap, good ones appear in bazaar all the time (not always lvl 500 either), especially if you don't mind an elemental prefix. Other than that, a legendary fleet will cost pennies in auction and still be better than a magnificent negation. To give an idea of negation prices, ikki pop is selling a legendary one for 15k, which should be cheaper than the bazaar price of that magnificent you were looking at https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211563QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Dec 9 2017, 12:30)  Though obviously, those are not the slot you are after, but it shows how cheap they are, though I'm not sure about agile pieces This post has been edited by Ubershank: Apr 30 2020, 02:58
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Apr 30 2020, 04:09
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Meight
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QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 02:43)  it was a solid upgrade over what I'm stuck with thanks to the dead equipment market. I've never liked the 1hpower or mage metas. It wasn't even on the bazaar for 24 hours or I just missed it, because the bazaar interface is garbage.
Perhaps this is a little better than that? Wouldn't need as many fragments either if you wanted to fuse. Legendary Zircon Shade Gauntlets of the ShadowdancerEdit:Taken This post has been edited by Meight: Apr 30 2020, 04:16
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Apr 30 2020, 04:57
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okayno
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 QUOTE(Ubershank @ Apr 29 2020, 19:57)  [impolite snip] My issue is I'm on the lookout for Agile prefix of anything that has at least four pabs. I'd prefer arcanist, but the equipment market is dead, and I haven't been able to upgrade gauntlets since before int and wisdom were added to arcanist, so unless I get incredibly lucky at (a huge opportunity cost loss with shining or) generic drops, I'm never going to have a decent pair of gloves. Even the few auctions that bother to consider agile shade arcanist to be worth anything have an infinitesimal chance of ever offering anything I'd go for. I could put a wtb post up, but fuck, I'd feel like an asshole for putting a wtb post up for just one particular specific prefix/suffix of a piece that's so far outside the meta that it's considered worthless, even to me, unless the level is within ~50 of me or peerless. This post has been edited by okayno: Apr 30 2020, 04:58
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Apr 30 2020, 09:04
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 02:57)  -snip- Can you stop being grumpy for two seconds? Every of the posts you've done since you've necroed yourself have been ranting or otherwise general negative talking. Shank goes out of his way to try to make you feel a bit less distressed by basically telling you that you did not miss out on anything (and really, you did not), and that's how you welcome him? You're being worse than the Reimu you're wearing as avatar there, and I do know how grumpy she can be, how much she can complain. Yeah, this game is meant to be a time kill for Tenboro, and a hath/GP/credits sink. And? That doesn't mean that it can't be fun/enjoyable and that you can't be reasonably geared to tackle more difficult challenges without sending poor wallet kun to the hospital. So try to enjoy that damn game for what it is and what it gives, or at the very least stop throwing your bad mood at everyone. Else everyone may stop reading you at all, though frankly I suppose you don't really care. This post has been edited by decondelite: Apr 30 2020, 09:05
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Apr 30 2020, 15:27
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mundomuñeca
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QUOTE(okayno @ Apr 30 2020, 03:57)   My issue is I'm on the lookout for Agile prefix of anything that has at least four pabs. I'd prefer arcanist, but the equipment market is dead, and I haven't been able to upgrade gauntlets since before int and wisdom were added to arcanist, so unless I get incredibly lucky at (a huge opportunity cost loss with shining or) generic drops, I'm never going to have a decent pair of gloves. Even the few auctions that bother to consider agile shade arcanist to be worth anything have an infinitesimal chance of ever offering anything I'd go for. I could put a wtb post up, but fuck, I'd feel like an asshole for putting a wtb post up for just one particular specific prefix/suffix of a piece that's so far outside the meta that it's considered worthless, even to me, unless the level is within ~50 of me or peerless. Agile Arcanist is too rare, even for Mags; don't keep what you're using just waiting for one. Plain Arcanist is easier, and not costly; agile as prefix may be useful, but it's not an absolute necessity imho; the effect of agile can be somewhat gained on non-Agile by using Featherweight shards. Just as an example, I have this 5 PABS (lacks STR) Magnificent Shade Gauntlets of Arcansit L.322 that I've just recently stopped using, substituting it for a Legendary Negation which should have been a huge improvement. It seemed so just looking at the stats, but in actual play the difference is barely noticeable.
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May 1 2020, 07:16
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okayno
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 30 2020, 02:04)  Can you stop being grumpy for two seconds?
I... I don't think so. I don't think I can stop. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Anywho, I thought I was just talking about stuff. Stuff that does kinda need to be talked about. Otherwise nothing changes/happens. I mean heaven forbid if something happened to you, there would be no equipment market for anything outside of level 500 mage gear. My intent was only to offer some perspective from a frog who hasn't been in the slowly heating water for five years. As its not like the equipment market reached its current state in a day, week, or month. It was such a slow process I'm willing to bet a lot of people didn't even notice and/or attributed it other factors. QUOTE(mundomuñeca @ Apr 30 2020, 08:27)  -polite snip?-
I've already got zero burden. It would be interesting if featherweights could push burden into the negative. And yea, I know it wasn't anything to write home about, and I'm at the point where one upgrade isn't going to dramatically change anything, but I'm anal. The shock of having it vanish while I was in the middle of considering is also worth noting. But the system is the system. This post has been edited by okayno: May 1 2020, 10:48
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May 1 2020, 10:03
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BlueWaterSplash
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Like two-thirds of legendary equipment I was looking at in the bazaar and would have purchased, were eaten by the System as well. I do take some time to check stats but it's only a minute. And strangely I sometimes see legendary equipment sitting there for a long time and it doesn't get eaten, so I feel the eating algorithm is strange. It was stated this occurs when a large flux of equipment is arriving to the bazaar. I don't see the floods during these eating times so there would have to be a delay before they appear.
Are you wearing clothes by the way?
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May 1 2020, 10:34
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(okayno @ May 1 2020, 05:16)  -snip- We do know the game is in a pitiful state that doesn't really favor fun. Everyone tries to go mage for the sake of getting rid of the pointlessly tedious gameplay to some degree. Heck I have one of the best places to watch the equipment market collapse and the materials market go nuts. That is, gameplay-wise, things are getting worse and worse too, since the monster roster is getting stronger by the day. And it makes the gap between melee and mage bigger and bigger as well, since pretty much everything takes ages to die as melee now. We simply try not to think about it too much, otherwise it'd be really depressing. I remember the days when we barely had a few PL2250, every Legendary drop was valuable, and Mag Power didn't last long in my auctions, even with only 2 PABs.
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May 1 2020, 11:08
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okayno
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Its also a balancing match. For as bad as the equipment market is, at proficiency is in a much better state than five years ago. I was something like 60 levels higher than my main fighting style's effective and the gap was just widening every time I played.
What I really is miss is the wackiness. auras, the ability tree, the attack tiers, etc. The game has definitely moved away from the information overload it was at one point, towards a pure hard number grind, which makes it harder to not think about certain other things.
and I don't even want to think about the years when gc00018's stable was the only thing you'd see, round after round after round.
should there be a nostalgia thread? or would that degenerate into existential crisis too quickly?
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May 2 2020, 20:56
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Maharid
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 1 2020, 10:34)  We do know the game is in a pitiful state that doesn't really favor fun. Everyone tries to go mage for the sake of getting rid of the pointlessly tedious gameplay to some degree. Heck I have one of the best places to watch the equipment market collapse and the materials market go nuts. That is, gameplay-wise, things are getting worse and worse too, since the monster roster is getting stronger by the day. And it makes the gap between melee and mage bigger and bigger as well, since pretty much everything takes ages to die as melee now.
We simply try not to think about it too much, otherwise it'd be really depressing.
I remember the days when we barely had a few PL2250, every Legendary drop was valuable, and Mag Power didn't last long in my auctions, even with only 2 PABs.
I thnk about it and make me think the game is just poorly made, i'd said it more than one time. The game is made by Tenboro and he can make it as he like but i push myself to say that he can hear a bit more the community and try to fix the gameplay to make it a little more fast and fun. And yeah, the game is sencodnary to the main purpose of HV but the community got huge, maybe it deserve a bit more consideration. More from little\medium player that are unable to get good items because some players hoard every thing they can, like a Legendary Rapier of the same type as the one he aleady have, maybe more than one, just because "i liked it". I spent 1700$+ maynly for game purposes, i feel those where mainly trashed in a sink and i felt this way for a long time. okayno is being a bit harsh, i was harsher one, and that harshness never really got away, because with little the game can be made more enjoyable for anyone but no. Well, i coninue to play to pass some time but i don't expect anything from this game anymore and i really tink the only way to improve it is to have someone else work on it apart Tenboro who i understend have it's own idea... i just don't like them. BTW, we are heading quite off topic here, maybe there is a better place for this discussion? This post has been edited by Maharid: May 2 2020, 20:57
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May 2 2020, 21:10
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Nezu
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use the chat topicedit: and consider that tenboro 1) has a roadmap for HV development he sticks to historically & knows that what players think they want doesn't always align with making the game better (almost never) and 2) probably doesn't have time to read every single concern we have, so this kinda talk is just excess negativity for no productive reason anymore This post has been edited by lestion: May 2 2020, 21:11
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