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Yeah, I'm surprised that you were surprised about how fast you level up when you already bought gold star, I mean isn't that self evident?
As for your rapier, I think you paid too much for that if the price you said doesn't include the IW and the forge. I bought this for 850k in an auction and I think it's a reasonable price, I don't know where you bought your rapier but it's clearly overpriced, not to mention that I heard that fiery isn't that wanted.

But yeah I do agree that old player might think that the prices right now is too cheap, but for new player (me included) it is reasonable prices. I personally think why mag and lower quality prices become so cheap is not only because there's less new player but also because the growing number of high level player (larger supply) and how they see mag and lower equipment as worthless (the prices will easily be lowered).
The growing number of high level player means that more and more player will drop mag and lower equips more often, which mean that the supply become higher. And they see those equips as worthless because there's just not high enough demand to equal the high supply, because of this they just consider those equips as just small change in income thus they easily dropped the price as long as it sells. Not to mention old players that just gonna do bounty or sell their piled up hath if they ever need credits, they'll probably just bazaar everything they dropped other than legs with good roll and peers.

The gold star I obtained by donating to the site. I did some research on donation, and I thought why not? It has a decent hath return in the long run. However the leveling up is faster than I expected when I am in PFUDOR. I got the rapier for 250k from the auction. Yet the IW costed much more than expected. So besides the BTC donation I am indeed a poor player who should have cried in the other thread.

Now at this 340+ level, it is not leveling as fast. But still, this is not high enough as level ~400, where everything is much cheaper, except for the popular ones in auctions. I am not a cash player, so I guess the best strategy for me is to accumulate fragments for future usage, and wait to level ~400.

But once passed 350 then free shop is not an option, so sad.

The gold star I obtained by donating to the site. I did some research on donation, and I thought why not? It has a decent hath return in the long run. However the leveling up is faster than I expected when I am in PFUDOR. I got the rapier for 250k from the auction. Yet the IW costed much more than expected. So besides the BTC donation I am indeed a poor player who should have cried in the other thread.

Now at this 340+ level, it is not leveling as fast. But still, this is not high enough as level ~400, where everything is much cheaper, except for the popular ones in auctions. I am not a cash player, so I guess the best strategy for me is to accumulate fragments for future usage, and wait to level ~400.

But once passed 350 then free shop is not an option, so sad.

Ah I see, I thought you buy the star with credits. Should have tried PFUDOR first before bought the star I guess? Even I without star think that by playing PFUDOR I get reasonable fast levelling. 250k for that rapier is still rather expensive imo, but that depend on what was the rapier level though. Yeah double potency IW will cost you quite a lot, I usually play IW by myself until I got the 2 potency that I want then send it to IW service to cut some cost.

250k for that rapier is still rather expensive imo

250k rapier of slaughter at 40% ADB? Will buy in a heart beat. But certainly will not soulfusing it.
(just for future context, I currently not level 300 yet)

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Forgot why I'm here. Got this useful little power armor

This post has been edited by feathered: Mar 24 2019, 09:59

250k rapier of slaughter at 40% ADB? Will buy in a heart beat. But certainly will not soulfusing it.
(just for future context, I currently not level 300 yet)

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Forgot why I'm here. Got this useful little power armor

Then you should have bid this:
[One02] Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (477, ADB 89%) (seller: Treesion) sabregimp 210k #47; winning for 25.2h / 60.3h; -4.8%
That's why I said it depend on what was the level.

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You know, when I read things like this, I'm wondering if helping newbies is a good thing at all.

I'd like to explain how wrong you are, because newbies actually have never been as helped spoiled as they are today. But I don't want to be the one grumpy old fart by doing so. I'll simply stick to this: your post pretty much contains everything that proves that the game is in a very, very bad shape, that something needs to be done, and I thank you for that.

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But I don't want to be the one grumpy old fart by doing so.

And yet ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You know, when I read things like this, I'm wondering if helping newbies is a good thing at all.

I'd like to explain how wrong you are, because newbies actually have never been as helped spoiled as they are today. But I don't want to be the one grumpy old fart by doing so. I'll simply stick to this: your post pretty much contains everything that proves that the game is in a very, very bad shape, that something needs to be done, and I thank you for that.

You kinda have a point. It seems that it is quite easy to level up and play mage nowadays. One could argue that one of the reasons for HV existence is to reward the biggest contributors to e-hentai.org. That's donating, bounties, uploading and getting awards. By spending a shitload of time and money on the site, I managed to get a good cold mage set. With that, I leveled up to 500. With another shitload of time and money I was able to get a dark set. It kinda hurts to see staves go for 5m that I would have had to pay 20m for.

Another thing is that the game seems to get saturated with good gear and items. Prices have been dropping like crazy for all materials. And now, a lot less people are buying energy drinks, which means that high-level players play less. There need to be enough challenge for them. That used to be getting good gear. But what is it now?

I know that one solution would be to make all gear obsolete. That would suck. And I might even consider rage-quitting myself at that point. It has been done before, though, and it works. Luckily, the boss told us on IRC a while ago that he's thinking of a better solution. Let's hope he will find one.

And yet ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Those good old times when I was the newbie, veterans were calling me an idiot/moron/stubborn or offensively stupid... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Then you should have bid this:
[One02] Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (477, ADB 89%) (seller: Treesion) sabregimp 210k #47; winning for 25.2h / 60.3h; -4.8%
That's why I said it depend on what was the level.

I intended to get the following in Super's auction 153 with a 1m budget, which the seller got with 1m from Super's auction 149

[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (389, ADB 69%) (seller: vlftjtq) zhenterzzf 1.5m #57; winning for 29.6h / 52.0h; -0.6%

I was of course outbid near the end, and turned to the following:

[One06] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (391, ADB 46%) (seller: lestion) jimIntheWind 250k Proxy bid after #99 Extend to 14:22; winning for 19.1h / 47.3h; -0.4%

Before then I was using an exquisite that I IWed myself. That was quite painful.

Now I'm just going to accumulate funds for a much better one.

I intended to get the following in Super's auction 153 with a 1m budget, which the seller got with 1m from Super's auction 149

[One01] Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (389, ADB 69%) (seller: vlftjtq) zhenterzzf 1.5m #57; winning for 29.6h / 52.0h; -0.6%

I was of course outbid near the end, and turned to the following:

[One06] Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter (391, ADB 46%) (seller: lestion) jimIntheWind 250k Proxy bid after #99 Extend to 14:22; winning for 19.1h / 47.3h; -0.4%

Before then I was using an exquisite that I IWed myself. That was quite painful.

Now I'm just going to accumulate funds for a much better one.

It is kinda by luck too I guess? I got mine ethereal adb 79% for 850k, it is cheap imo, but with rather mediocre or maybe bad stats other than the adb, but hey I got holy strike on that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Dude just dump bunch of crappy hollowofrged Magnificent one-hand weapons. Who's the dude?

Those good old times when I was the newbie, veterans were calling me an idiot/moron/stubborn or offensively stupid... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

And did you liked it ?

Anyway, 10b already made everything above avg level-bound instead of unassigned a couple years ago (right just 2 month after I began playing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Why do you think he did it ?

Because he thought it would help to keep rarity & price of good items. My personal opinion is that (after a period of adjusting and sell-off of old unassigned) it actually produced quite opposite effects.

Think about it : for high-lvl it just meant to use fragments to soulfuse good items, apart for that nothing changed to them (and since they already had good items, they only had to soulfuse items better then theirs, meaning they would only be interested in few very good items, not bothering buying others ... so less buying from high-levels, but for a few exceptional pieces).

For low-levels, it meant that either they had to frequently buy items (to change the not-soulfused ones) or risk soulfusing bad items they then would dump in very little time (possibly even less then the time to get enough frags to soulfuse another), OR trying to buy good enough low-level items to soulfuse, keeping prices up also for good Mags and rare Exq. ... and that was probably the hoped effect, but most don't do either !

Because they prefer to get cheap shit (and eventually just a good weapon), and brute-force to high levels as quickly as possible, as a way to escape the low-level hell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Which also means, the whole time they remain low-level is very short, therefore even if they buy items, they have no reason to buy expensive items and even less reason to buy a lot of them.

One could just buy 5 heavy Mag and one crappy Leg. Shortword, forge to 5, IW them with whatever it comes from simple IW service, then forge a bit more the weapon (like 10-15), and run through to level 350 before worrying of anything else.
And THIS is what kills the market. So blame your own solutions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

One could just buy 5 heavy Mag and one crappy Leg. Shortword, forge to 5, IW them with whatever it comes from simple IW service, then forge a bit more the weapon (like 10-15), and run through to level 350 before worrying of anything else.
And THIS is what kills the market. So blame your own solutions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This is what I kinda did, bought a pair of 90+% adb average shortswords and soulfused them (not even bother forge) and used them until around level 200 then soulfused a cheapo level 300-ish leg shortsword for MH, and won an unwanted peerless shortsword lottery for OH. I used them until I could soulfuse my current rapier recently and right now just need a bit more pile of soul fragment to soulfuse my waki balance. This was kinda waste use of soul fragment but I didn't have to worry switching weapons almost at all.

For armors just I just bought whatever cheapos available on wts forum. I did ask for some equips from freeshop but ended up not using them at all, as when I reached the equips level I already have better cheapo piece from other shops.

Personally I think if people want the prices to be higher then they should be persistent about it and don't sell equips at cheap prices, though this will likely cause new players to rely on bazaar more. I mean look at decon's shop which is the epitome of mid newbie friendly with those prices, and fresh newbie that still struggle to cough up even 10k can ask for some piece from freeshop, I think it's not really right to call newbies spoiled when they themselves are the one who spoil them.

This post has been edited by fuadhika: Mar 24 2019, 17:48

Don't stir the knife in the wound please. Thanks.

somebody just dump many heavy armors.


lvl 410~500

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Mar 25 2019, 22:16

something i bought the other day and just finished the IW, may never use it, but nice ADB nonetheless
Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection

do you guys think it's a fair price 100k for each power helmet/gauntlets/leggings/boots of protection in the 95-100% ADB? i mean, someone didn't care enough to bazaar it

Edit: ...and in the lv 500 range, wouldn't want to appear like i'm trying to snatch nice pieces from newbies, just make a set

This post has been edited by yami_zetsu: Mar 27 2019, 06:09

Do you guys think it's a fair price 100k for each power helmet/gauntlets/leggings/boots of protection in the 95-100% ADB? i mean, someone didn't care enough to bazaar it

Edit: ...and in the lv 500 range,

It's just people around lvl 400 will seek power armors with offensive suffix. 100k is cheaper than affordable, but why buy things you will not use?

It's just people around lvl 400 will seek power armors with offensive suffix. 100k is cheaper than affordable, but why buy things you will not use?

lv400 << Still completing my defensive set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

9 out of 10 times I buy things I will not use.

They look good, enough to be a valid reason (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

something i bought the other day and just finished the IW, may never use it, but nice ADB nonetheless
Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection

do you guys think it's a fair price 100k for each power helmet/gauntlets/leggings/boots of protection in the 95-100% ADB? i mean, someone didn't care enough to bazaar it

Edit: ...and in the lv 500 range, wouldn't want to appear like i'm trying to snatch nice pieces from newbies, just make a set

Keep it. I have the feeling that it'll soon be worth quite a lot.