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Dec 8 2009, 17:25
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 8 2009, 03:51)  Bob says that Poison reduces the target's MP and SP regen rates by 50%. Empirical evidence (and logical flavor) seems to suggest the truth in that, but I haven't found any official acknowledgment of that effect. Is it true?
Yes, it does. I asked Tenboro about it in a PM recently. If you want more info about poison, here is some info I got from Tenb: -Damage is affected by Magic Rating -Damage is unaffected by +% to magic damage as granted by auras/items/titles. He wasn't sure, but did not think so. -Interference under 25 does not decrease the damage of Poison (it does for all the other damage spells)
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Dec 8 2009, 19:36
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grumpymal
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The level requirements for some of the post-Endgame arenas are wrong. I can personally say that the round composition for the stuff up to Dreamfall, the last arena I cleared, looks about right. The basic page arena main page info you can pull from this screencap I got from hito when I updated BBE to not take into account arena fee returns in credit gain tracking. 
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Dec 9 2009, 02:02
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coredumperror
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Awesome info guys. Thanks!
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Dec 10 2009, 00:59
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Mr. K
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I've been through 5 hours of a montage and my proficiency earnings have been crap. Is there some way that I can boost the speed of the gains?
I'm in the montage with just a sapphire shortsword. One-handed weapon proficiency is all that I'm raising right now.
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Dec 10 2009, 04:16
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Sayo Aisaka
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If you've taken off all of the rest of your gear, that's all you can do. It's free, so don't knock it. (Magic montage sucks, though).
Right, who was asking about spell durations? I did some testing after my last reset, and it looks like each additional AP increases duration by 25%, or in other words, putting the full 5 points into any spell doubles how long it lasts. That applies to Poison, Weaken, Sleep, Bewilder, Absorb and Spark of Life. Other spells might use a different formula, but my guess is they're all the same.
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Dec 10 2009, 07:59
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Jonavrek
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QUOTE(Mr. K @ Dec 10 2009, 05:59)  I've been through 5 hours of a montage and my proficiency earnings have been crap. Is there some way that I can boost the speed of the gains?
I'm in the montage with just a sapphire shortsword. One-handed weapon proficiency is all that I'm raising right now.
If you want to raise weapon and armor proficiency, you should do it with Flimsy World - Cake. That is better and faster than Montage.
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Dec 10 2009, 08:39
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QUOTE(Jonavrek @ Dec 10 2009, 10:59)  If you want to raise weapon and armor proficiency, you should do it with Flimsy World - Cake. That is better and faster than Montage.
Actually, Flimsy@Hard IW is better: enemies still cannot hit you for much damage, and have A LOT more hp to last for many turns and give you more chances to increase the profs.
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Dec 10 2009, 08:41
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dap00
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QUOTE(Jonavrek @ Dec 9 2009, 21:59)  If you want to raise weapon and armor proficiency, you should do it with Flimsy World - Cake. That is better and faster than Montage.
Unfortunately, there's actual work involved, so you have to be awake for it, but other than that, yeah. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And just think, there was a time when people were actually excited about Montages...
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Dec 10 2009, 17:53
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Jonavrek
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QUOTE(hen_Z @ Dec 10 2009, 13:39)  Actually, Flimsy@Hard IW is better: enemies still cannot hit you for much damage, and have A LOT more hp to last for many turns and give you more chances to increase the profs.
Flimsy@Cake IW is better for me, when I remove all of my armor, leave only shield and weapon left. QUOTE(dap00 @ Dec 10 2009, 13:41)  Unfortunately, there's actual work involved, so you have to be awake for it, but other than that, yeah. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And just think, there was a time when people were actually excited about Montages... Yeah, I was too. But now I wonder how many people have still used Montage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Dec 10 2009, 22:10
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grumpymal
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Is the consensus now that we call RL/IPU/FSM Godly-class monsters rather than Mythic?
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Dec 10 2009, 22:19
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QUOTE(dap00 @ Dec 10 2009, 03:41)  And just think, there was a time when people were actually excited about Montages...
Note that Tenb said he has some more plans for the Montage, so let's wait and see. I don't see him making that for the sole purpose of helping bring profs up to 75% of the cap.
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Dec 10 2009, 22:22
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QUOTE(DemonEyesBob @ Dec 10 2009, 12:19)  Note that Tenb said he has some more plans for the Montage, so let's wait and see. I don't see him making that for the sole purpose of helping bring profs up to 75% of the cap.
I recently PM'ed Tenboro about that very thing, and this was his response: QUOTE QUOTE -Are you finished with the montage system as it is? I recall you saying you had further plans with it, but nothing new has happened to it. I was planning on adding some other forms of montages, but I didn't get around to it yet.
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Dec 10 2009, 22:28
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Dec 10 2009, 17:22)  I recently PM'ed Tenboro about that very thing, and this was his response: I was planning on adding some other forms of montages, but I didn't get around to it yet.
YetExpect to one day wake up and have the montage eat you alive or swap your proficiencies or something. He'll get around to it eventually. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Dec 10 2009, 22:29
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Dec 10 2009, 22:41
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grumpymal
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I want my Montage to be gray.
Also in relation to my previous question about monster classification: Its not really that important since there's all of one person who's ever fought them, but would the Trio and the Tree be considered Legendaries, since you fight them normally as part of an Arena challenge, or a God/Mythic because they're a set encounter and so far hito hasn't mentioned them showing up anywhere other than their arena? (Long question is long).
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Dec 10 2009, 23:42
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They only show up in that one place, and their class indicators are purple, if that's any hint. They aren't really that tough though. The 3 are each about as strong as Konata and the Tree is about half as strong as that. It's stronger than a boss but still less than Konata strength-wise. They also have magical properties/effects not seen anywhere else in the HV. The four of them together can be formidable without a good strategy, but that hasn't stopped me from beating the entire challenge without items a couple of times.
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Dec 10 2009, 23:52
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 10 2009, 16:42)  They only show up in that one place, and their class indicators are purple, if that's any hint. They aren't really that tough though. The 3 are each about as strong as Konata and the Tree is about half as strong as that. It's stronger than a boss but still less than Konata strength-wise. They also have magical properties/effects not seen anywhere else in the HV. The four of them together can be formidable without a good strategy, but that hasn't stopped me from beating the entire challenge without items a couple of times.
What did the purple indicator mean again? Because I don't fight Bosses+ that often and I've not fought a Legendary yet, so forgive me if I don't know all the indicators. Actually, it would be nice if someone noted the indicator color for each monster class on the wiki's beastiary....
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Dec 12 2009, 09:19
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grumpymal
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What was the Level 150 tactical spell again? Nerf, right? With X-Nerf at 200? Getting close to the next tier (LOL, 10+ levels is close), so I need to start planning and saving up my AP.
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Dec 12 2009, 10:46
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nerf isn't really worth getting imo, but you do get regen II and another item slot
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Dec 14 2009, 14:05
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Thanos008
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Two series each of ten, 'randomly' selected Battles in a high-value Item World item (the Fine Gossamer Robe, to be exact). Values rounded to the nearest whole number.
Before Rainbow Aura:--------------------------------------------------------After Rainbow Aura
1]] 185 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------211 exp.
2]] 183 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------214 exp.
3]] 184 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------214 exp.
4]] 184 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------218 exp.
5]] 186 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------215 exp.
6]] 184 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------215 exp.
7]] 188 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------214 exp.
8]] 189 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------212 exp.
9]] 181 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------217 exp.
10]]190 exp.----------------------------------------------------------------------------215 exp.
AV 185.4/Round-----------------------------------------------------------------------214.5/Round
With the advertised bonus to EXP for the Rainbow Aura, somebody please tell me what I'm missing here- back when I had about 50% worth of EXP Bonus put into Ability Points, it seemed as if I was getting more EXP there, from the relatively piddling boost (I took those 15 A-Points out of EXP and dumped them into OverCharge weeks ago), than I am getting from Rainbow Aura's promised +77%.
Thanks.
EDIT: I scoured my HV Profile just to be sure......and saw that I previously (long ago) added about 75% EXP boost thorugh Henjutsu Training; but even with that in mind, it doesn't seem to add up.
This post has been edited by Thanos008: Dec 14 2009, 14:16
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Dec 14 2009, 17:12
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uth
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are all those fights from the same day, with no posts in between them, cause if there not, then its probably post count that skewed it, but I guess even then something seems off so I can't say for sure.
Easiest way to check if its something bugged would be to check your xp bonus using sonic's calculator.
This post has been edited by uth: Dec 14 2009, 17:16
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