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post May 31 2011, 01:49
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 30 2011, 15:37) *

Do we know the proc chance on Channeling? It's not on the wiki, as far I can tell.

As far as I know, we do not. I once asked Tenboro and never got a reply.
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post May 31 2011, 02:04
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ May 30 2011, 01:54) *

but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets better with more prof (like Blind does)



I vaguely remember reading somewhere about how Blind work with Depre prof but I kinda forgot it... How does it work again?


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post May 31 2011, 02:48
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I remember reading somewhere that the chanelling proc chance uses the coalesced mana proc chance.
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post May 31 2011, 03:46
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ May 30 2011, 17:48) *

I remember reading somewhere that the chanelling proc chance uses the coalesced mana proc chance.

That was speculation by a member.
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post May 31 2011, 03:50
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 30 2011, 18:46) *

That was speculation by a member.


Tenboro confirmed it somewhere I believe. I think it was one of the patch threads. Not this latest one, but one of the two before that.

Edit: Make that 3 patches ago.
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You're probably doing it wrong. Coalesced Mana and Channeling both use the same probability, factored from Staff Proficiency, and is always between 10% and 35%. (You can see yours on the Equip screen.)


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post May 31 2011, 07:54
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More precisely here:
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 1 2011, 16:18) *

You're probably doing it wrong. Coalesced Mana and Channeling both use the same probability, factored from Staff Proficiency, and is always between 10% and 35%. (You can see yours on the Equip screen.)


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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Aug 20 2009, 17:13) *

- Deprecative magic proficiency now has a larger effect of the effect of Nerf, particularly the defensive reduction.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Nov 20 2009, 09:46) *

Nerf is mostly balanced against the X-Nerf you get on level 200, so its main function is increasing how much damage monsters take as well as reducing their chance to evade and resist. The effect on rating isn't very high. But either way, the numbers it uses aren't very useful for a tooltip, since you're just gonna go "ok, and that does what exactly?".


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post May 31 2011, 15:38
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Sorry, I tried searching but had no luck. Can anyone tell me how much spell proficiency = 1 spell damage?

For example

Is it better to equip demon fiend that gives +20 forbidden proficiency or Fenrir that gives +3 dark dmg etc.

Thx for the help!
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post May 31 2011, 15:57
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Two points of proficiency equals 1% more damage.
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post May 31 2011, 16:09
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ May 31 2011, 06:57) *

Two points of proficiency equals 1% more damage.


Thanks Sayo. Just so I'm sure I have it right....


Let's say I have +50 dark dmg with all slots equipped except gloves.

Gloves with +20 forbidden prof = +5 dark dmg?
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post May 31 2011, 18:56
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Spell damage = Base damage * (1.5 if crit) * (1.5 if channeled) * (1 + MDM + AF) * (1 + EDB + Infusions) * (1 + proficiency/200)
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post May 31 2011, 19:45
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ May 31 2011, 17:56) *

(1 + EDB + Infusions)

That might be how it works now, but we don't actually know. The rest of it is probably still the same as before.
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post May 31 2011, 19:53
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QUOTE(Ballistic9 @ May 31 2011, 18:56) *

Spell damage = Base damage * (1.5 if crit) * (1.5 if channeled) * (1 + MDM + AF) * (1 + EDB + Infusions) * (1 + proficiency/200)

With that equation you are saying that edb and mdm have exactly the same effect on spell damage?

That isnt the case when i did some tests a while back ago.
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post May 31 2011, 20:11
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Jun 1 2011, 01:53) *

With that equation you are saying that edb and mdm have exactly the same effect on spell damage?

That isnt the case when i did some tests a while back ago.


I would like to know how you did the test before expressing my view, if you don't mind
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post May 31 2011, 20:13
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ May 31 2011, 18:53) *

With that equation you are saying that edb and mdm have exactly the same effect on spell damage?

That isnt the case when i did some tests a while back ago.
Before the patch? Did you add the mdm from AF?
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post May 31 2011, 20:36
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QUOTE(cmdct @ May 31 2011, 20:13) *

Before the patch? Did you add the mdm from AF?

Was before the patch ya, and yes i did add AF. I had 2 staffs with roughly the same stats but different mdm and edb, was like 15 difference between them, wore all cotton and just switched staff after a few hundred rounds too see the overall damage. I used electric tier 1 all the way till i died. Im guessing i probably played to few rounds.

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post May 31 2011, 21:32
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There are all kinds of reasons why that kind of test won't give you accurate results.
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ May 31 2011, 21:32) *

There are all kinds of reasons why that kind of test won't give you accurate results.

Well since the general consensus that mdm and edb hve the same effect i will go by that and trust that it is.

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post May 31 2011, 21:52
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just wondering if the following equipment/prefix/suffix combinations have ever been seen (it was either here or "Ask the Experts" so I figured this thread would be more appropriate)

Dragon Hide (everything) of Negation
Buckler of Barrier
Ethereal Axe of the Vampire
Ethereal Rapier of the Vampire/Nimble
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post May 31 2011, 22:32
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QUOTE(Battle_Hunter @ May 31 2011, 11:52) *

just wondering if the following equipment/prefix/suffix combinations have ever been seen (it was either here or "Ask the Experts" so I figured this thread would be more appropriate)

Dragon Hide (everything) of Negation
Buckler of Barrier
Ethereal Axe of the Vampire
Ethereal Rapier of the Vampire/Nimble


I don't see a reason why there wouldn't be. Only things like cloth of the raccoon or some other combinations which make no sense do not drop.
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post May 31 2011, 22:34
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I can vouch for the first one.
Fine Dragon Hide Leggings of Negation

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