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Jul 22 2010, 02:02
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(Ichizon @ Jul 21 2010, 19:39)  I couple of questions from me. 1. Simple question (possibly a bug?) I've got this Level 3 Fair Bronze Dagger of Balance which I thought had pretty nice stats from the shop, and wanted to level it in the item world. However, I can't enter it (and it's not equipped when I try to). I could enter and clear a level 7 club without problems. Why? 2. Tactical question. I'm trying to stick to physical combat with healing/supportive magic. Does anyone have any suggestion on what to go for stat-wise? From what I've read, you're supposed to balance them all, but that seems rather tactless to be honest. I know that in the long run, the cost of low stats vs. high stats will weigh up for some balancing, but I think that keeping them equal would get me into troubles sooner than later. My tactic so far is to go for DEX mostly, with AGI/STR a bit lower, and END fairly low in comparison. INT/WIS is put completely on ice. It seems to be working so far, but has anyone tried this with success/failure? From reading the descriptions in the wiki, it seems like I could drop STR for more DEX and END. More accuracy and health, but slightly less damage per hit (DEX also gives damage). 1) It might have its cooldown timer still running. Wait 20 hours and check again. Otherwise, no clue. 2) This is more an Expert question, but you've got it all wrong. END is your priority. Depending on your fighting style, you'll then balance STR/DEX/AGI. You also need to put points into WIS. cmal's Two Cardinal Rules for Stat Distro: 1) END IS HP NEVER LET IT GET BELOW YOUR LEVEL; 2) WIS IS MP YOU DIE WHEN YOU RUN OUT.
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Jul 22 2010, 02:04
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE I couple of questions from me.
This thread is to discuss game mechanics. Ask the Experts is for getting tips/specific character builds. QUOTE I've got this Level 3 Fair Bronze Dagger of Balance which I thought had pretty nice stats from the shop, and wanted to level it in the item world. However, I can't enter it (and it's not equipped when I try to). I could enter and clear a level 7 club without problems. Why?
Search the forums b4 asking. It's b/c someone else entered iw in the last 20 hours and then sold it. QUOTE I'm trying to stick to physical combat with healing/supportive magic. Does anyone have any suggestion on what to go for stat-wise? From what I've read, you're supposed to balance them all, but that seems rather tactless to be honest. I know that in the long run, the cost of low stats vs. high stats will weigh up for some balancing, but I think that keeping them equal would get me into troubles sooner than later.
There's a thread posted by tenb explaining derived stats. Basically, if you're meleeing, keep your int behind. STR, DEX are fighting stats, END, AGI damage reducers, WIS (and some INT) mana for healing. Edit: ninja'd This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jul 22 2010, 02:04
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Jul 22 2010, 02:33
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Ichizon
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Well, thanks for the answers. I just thought I'd stick the tactical question in the same post, since I wasn't really going to post about that in the first place. QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 22 2010, 02:04)  Search the forums b4 asking. It's b/c someone else entered iw in the last 20 hours and then sold it. But I got it from the Bazaar/Equipment Shop. Aren't those randomly generated items? If stuff people sold appeared there I can understand. It hasn't been 20 hours since I bought it, for sure.
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Jul 22 2010, 03:39
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(Ichizon @ Jul 21 2010, 20:33)  Well, thanks for the answers. I just thought I'd stick the tactical question in the same post, since I wasn't really going to post about that in the first place. But I got it from the Bazaar/Equipment Shop. Aren't those randomly generated items? If stuff people sold appeared there I can understand. It hasn't been 20 hours since I bought it, for sure.
Some are, but most aren't. You didn't think people could sell their equipment there?
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Jul 22 2010, 03:58
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jul 21 2010, 18:39)  QUOTE(Ichizon @ Jul 21 2010, 17:33)  But I got it from the Bazaar/Equipment Shop. Aren't those randomly generated items? If stuff people sold appeared there I can understand. It hasn't been 20 hours since I bought it, for sure.
Some are, but most aren't. I don't think anything in the bazaar isn't sold by players these days.
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Jul 22 2010, 04:01
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Ichizon
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jul 22 2010, 03:39)  You didn't think people could sell their equipment there? Of course. I do so all the time, but I didn't think the system stored sold items for other players like that.
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Jul 22 2010, 04:05
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terrefee
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Do str and dex serve any purpose for a pure spellcaster?
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Jul 22 2010, 11:14
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(terrefee @ Jul 22 2010, 03:05)  Do str and dex serve any purpose for a pure spellcaster?
1- a pure caster have to hit 2- STR/DEX contribute with shield rating
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Jul 22 2010, 21:21
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terrefee
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jul 22 2010, 11:14)  1- a pure caster have to hit 2- STR/DEX contribute with shield rating
Thank you, but can you explain further? 1: Why do I need to hit anything? I just cast spells til I don't have mana, then lose the grindfest. Then I start up a new one. 2: I don't have a shield spell and I don't use consumables. Can't afford it. Is a 'shield rating' a sort of physical absorption that is always active, or requires a certain spell or consumable? If so, why can't I just raise strength and dex then? I don't hit for crap as it is, why would I melee?
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Jul 22 2010, 22:48
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1. So you can use staff attacks to proc ether theft or finish off nearly dead mobs.
2. Shield rating is your defense and basic damage reduction. Str also contributes to your total HP.
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Jul 23 2010, 17:19
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terrefee
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QUOTE(Cronauron @ Jul 22 2010, 22:48)  1. So you can use staff attacks to proc ether theft or finish off nearly dead mobs.
2. Shield rating is your defense and basic damage reduction. Str also contributes to your total HP.
Thank you, but as regards #1, proc'ing ether theft is mostly about hitting the target, right? Do both str and dex contribute to staff accuracy? Also, to finish off nearly dead mobs without wasting mana, isn't magic missile a far better option? Cheap, relatively good damage...
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Jul 23 2010, 20:04
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE Thank you, but as regards #1, proc'ing ether theft is mostly about hitting the target, right? Do both str and dex contribute to staff accuracy? This was answered already. QUOTE Also, to finish off nearly dead mobs without wasting mana, isn't magic missile a far better option? Cheap, relatively good damage... Magic missle takes more time.
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Jul 24 2010, 00:15
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 23 2010, 19:04)  Magic missle takes more time.
True, but you also have a lower probability of missing, because of acc stat bonus.
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Jul 24 2010, 00:23
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shiki666
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Say has anyone been getting an issue with Mooglemail recently? I'm trying to send something but every time I try to click attach item I see the Item list form at the bottom of the screen kind of cut off at the bottom. I cannot scroll down or anything to click the item to attach. This is in Mozilla Firefox I got the latest version running. How to fix this? EDIT: NVM its been fixed with zoom
This post has been edited by shiki666: Jul 24 2010, 00:27
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Jul 24 2010, 00:26
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terrefee
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 23 2010, 20:04)  Magic missle takes more time.
Thanks for the replies. Does magic missile take 3.5-4x the time? Because it does that much more damage, for me. (With my pitiful stats/staff I only hit for like 22, 20ish. MM hits just about anything for 70, 80, sometimes higher non-crit, depending on the mob.)
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Jul 24 2010, 00:30
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE True, but you also have a lower probability of missing, because of acc stat bonus. It's also a factor of I don't want to click twice. QUOTE EDIT: NVM its been fixed with zoom I was about to say that. Question was answered many times. QUOTE Does magic missile take 3.5-4x the time? 1.1 times. When you reach lv 90, it's 1.1x missle/.75x attack, so it's more noticeable.
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Jul 24 2010, 00:46
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 23 2010, 23:30)  It's also a factor of I don't want to click twice.
That's the reason I still use it, but in situations where each hit hurt a lot, the extra acc is very important. i.e. higher settings, +150 Fest rounds.
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Jul 26 2010, 20:22
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Jul 26 2010, 20:25
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QUOTE(mr daniels @ Jul 26 2010, 11:22)  Holy eff that is a lot of Agility from equipment. And anyway, I think the issue is effective action speed.
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Jul 27 2010, 01:07
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Sayo Aisaka
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When I use Haste, it says my action speed has been increased by 79.4, but it hasn't really. You don't always get what you see.
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