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Oct 11 2009, 17:07
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Lord_Obagon
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This is the only Phase gear I have, both bought at the bazaar. I have yet to see Kevlar.
Superior Bronze-trimmed Phase Gloves of the Demon-fiend Attack Accuracy Bonus 1.6 Magic Accuracy Bonus 3.0 Proficiency Bonuses Forbidden 7.2 Physical Absorption 0.3 Physical Mitigation 1.1 Magical Absorption 0.9 Magical Mitigation 1.9 Evade Chance 5.7 Primary Attribute Bonuses Intelligence 0.5 Wisdom 0.5 Agility 0.8 Level 17 / Slot: Hands / Type: Cloth armor
Fair Bronze-trimmed Phase Shoes of Fenrir Attack Accuracy Bonus 1.6 Magic Accuracy Bonus 2.0 Elemental Damage Bonuses Dark 1.2 Physical Absorption 0.1 Physical Mitigation 1.0 Magical Absorption 0.3 Magical Mitigation 1.1 Evade Chance 5.0 Primary Attribute Bonuses Intelligence 0.1 Wisdom 0.1 Agility 0.1 Level 1 / Slot: Feet / Type: Cloth armor ^ Level 1!
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Oct 11 2009, 18:13
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Charkan
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I have a question relating to certain effects with similar descriptions.
Holy Magic proc: Breached Defense Piercing Weapon proc: Penetrated Armor
Both have the same effect?
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Oct 11 2009, 18:16
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(Cheater) Hunter the 3rd
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QUOTE(Charkan @ Oct 11 2009, 18:13)  I have a question relating to certain effects with similar descriptions.
Holy Magic proc: Breached Defense Piercing Weapon proc: Penetrated Armor
Both have the same effect?
No, penetrated armor gives -500 defense. Breached defense gives somewhere around (from my experience) -50... very weak.
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Oct 11 2009, 18:23
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Charkan
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QUOTE(Hunter the 3rd @ Oct 11 2009, 13:16)  No, penetrated armor gives -500 defense. Breached defense gives somewhere around (from my experience) -50... very weak.
But holy effect is relatively linked to proficiency? So have high proficiency would further reduce defense?
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Oct 12 2009, 04:14
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(Lord_Obagon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:07)  This is the only Phase gear I have, both bought at the bazaar. I have yet to see Kevlar.
Superior Bronze-trimmed Phase Gloves of the Demon-fiend Attack Accuracy Bonus 1.6 Magic Accuracy Bonus 3.0 Proficiency Bonuses Forbidden 7.2 Physical Absorption 0.3 Physical Mitigation 1.1 Magical Absorption 0.9 Magical Mitigation 1.9 Evade Chance 5.7 Primary Attribute Bonuses Intelligence 0.5 Wisdom 0.5 Agility 0.8 Level 17 / Slot: Hands / Type: Cloth armor
Fair Bronze-trimmed Phase Shoes of Fenrir Attack Accuracy Bonus 1.6 Magic Accuracy Bonus 2.0 Elemental Damage Bonuses Dark 1.2 Physical Absorption 0.1 Physical Mitigation 1.0 Magical Absorption 0.3 Magical Mitigation 1.1 Evade Chance 5.0 Primary Attribute Bonuses Intelligence 0.1 Wisdom 0.1 Agility 0.1 Level 1 / Slot: Feet / Type: Cloth armor ^ Level 1! Geez Louise, apparently all that I had to do to get to see Phase Armor for myself was to simply ask about it.  And that's just one of two pieces that showed up all of a sudden (and which I promptly snatched up). A whole set of this stuff must really be good, at least evasion-wise.........and matched up with a pair of DW, high Parry Daggers to boot.......good times.......
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Oct 12 2009, 04:21
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marcho
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Oct 11 2009, 21:14)  Geez Louise, apparently all that I had to do to get to see Phase Armor for myself was to simply ask about it.  And that's just one of two pieces that showed up all of a sudden (and which I promptly snatched up). A whole set of this stuff must really be good, at least evasion-wise.........and matched up with a pair of DW, high Parry Daggers to boot.......good times....... I feel sorta bad crushing your hopes and dreams here, but prism != phase.
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Oct 12 2009, 04:35
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(marcho @ Oct 11 2009, 19:21) 
I feel sorta bad crushing your hopes and dreams here, but prism != phase. [Homer] D'oh!!![/Homer] I picked the wrong thing. That's what I meant to showcase:  And that's just the Hat, ladeez and gentulmin!! I can't wait to see what the Main Body and Leggings offers up in terms of Evasion!!
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Oct 12 2009, 17:16
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uth
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Anyone know if the konata, mikuru, ryouko, and yuki trophies actually give better items the the 1st tier legendary trophies? got a bunch of blood tokens I should probably use since I'm not gonna try real life again for a while.
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Oct 12 2009, 17:22
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marcho
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They give a bonus to the quality roll, but will 2 dalek boxes (two low bonus rolls) or 1 bunny suit (1 higher bonus roll) get you a better item? Dunno. gil and hito have gotten garbage for even their IPU horns. The answer is they have a higher chance to give better items but hey don't necessarily have to give better items.
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Oct 12 2009, 17:28
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uth
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I guess it would be nice to know how much higher the chance is, although trying Manbearpig on battletoads might be fun.
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Oct 12 2009, 21:53
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(uth @ Oct 12 2009, 11:28)  I guess it would be nice to know how much higher the chance is, although trying Manbearpig on battletoads might be fun.
I would advise against it. I tried one of the first tier bosses on hell and it was one of the longest and most boring battles I've had. It was also one of the closest battles I've ever had - I was literally out of MP when I won.
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Oct 12 2009, 22:08
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marcho
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Huh, is hell that much harder? Don't want to waste a token trying if I'm gonna get my ass handed to me.
I just went ahead and killed MBP on nightmare using 3 greater mana potions and 1 superior mana draught. Didn't take all that long either.
This post has been edited by marcho: Oct 12 2009, 22:09
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Oct 12 2009, 22:40
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(marcho @ Oct 12 2009, 16:08)  Huh, is hell that much harder? Don't want to waste a token trying if I'm gonna get my ass handed to me.
I just went ahead and killed MBP on nightmare using 3 greater mana potions and 1 superior mana draught. Didn't take all that long either.
I beat MBP on nightmare, and since I had an extra token I went back and did mithra again, on Hell. The difference was huge. There have been changes to the game since I did that, and admittedly I did it without any special items, but it was a very close call. Edit: Things to consider: I did it before the armor mitigation changes, so I had stronger armor back then, but cure and regen now cost quite a bit less. On the other hand, even weaken + regen was not keeping my hp solid, and I had to cast cure a lot. Also, I do not have an ethereal weapon, so most of my damage is done through Penetrated Armor. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Oct 12 2009, 22:46
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Oct 12 2009, 22:44
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marcho
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Hmm, guess I'll make sure I have plenty of spare tokens before I burn one trying it out.
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Anyways, quick question. Has anyone found a use for infusions? I tried em out a few times and can't say I could get anything worthwhile out of them from what I've tried.
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Oct 12 2009, 22:57
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(Cheater) Hunter the 3rd
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QUOTE Anyways, quick question. Has anyone found a use for infusions? I tried em out a few times and can't say I could get anything worthwhile out of them from what I've tried. Yeah, I haven't either. I might use a gaia when I attempt one of the bosses. Maybe it'll be more useful with the skill implementation. It does seem more useful with 2 handers though.
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Oct 13 2009, 01:08
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Lord_Obagon
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Several questions
1. Does Bleed do more damage if the target is effected by Penetrating Armor?
2. Will a sleeping target wake up from Bleed or Poison Damage?
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Oct 13 2009, 01:14
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marcho
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QUOTE(Lord_Obagon @ Oct 12 2009, 18:08)  Several questions
1. Does Bleed do more damage if the target is effected by Penetrating Armor?
2. Will a sleeping target wake up from Bleed or Poison Damage?
1. No. Poison does though. 2. Erm, no idea, I spec'd out of sleep due to its suck.
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Oct 13 2009, 02:05
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uth
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I think any damage has a chance of waking up something sleeping think I accidentally cast sleep on the wrong guy one time while he had searing skin on him and it dropped the next turn when the dmg ticked
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Oct 13 2009, 04:22
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dap00
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1) Is there a reason why fixed auras don't display their effects when you mouse over them? I mean, I know what mine do, just curious.
2) Sometimes certain monsters hit me twice in one turn (two physical attacks, or one physical and one magic). Is this an indicator that my action speed is low, that theirs is high, or is that just random?
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Oct 13 2009, 04:26
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marcho
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1) `\(o_O)/`
2) It is a general indicator that you have A - high burden or B - low aspeed. Currently I'm getting the occasional double strike myself rather than the other way around (low burden + high aspeed gives you the occasional free hit).
This post has been edited by marcho: Oct 13 2009, 04:27
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