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At high levels, I believe the consensus is Elec is better than Fire. Because you can fry a non-weak, non-resistant enemy in one hit if you have your proficiencies and gear in-line. And in a contest of lowest number of resistant enemies, Elec wins hands down (actually Soul wins with the added bonus of taking down bosses, but I think the power:MP ratio there is out of whack also there's not much in terms of rating boosts).

Fire is a secondary necessity if for no other reason than for killing Mind Rapers.

A question for Mages:

I assume that, since most of the creatures appear to be vulnerable to Fire, that it is the first most useful Elemental Spell (and by "elemental" I also personally mean Spell Types like Dark, Soul, and Holy).

What, in your opinion, is the second most useful Elemental Spell Type to have??

Elec is the most important. Holy comes second. (It murders Mind Rapers) With those 2, I can kill any non-boss very quickly.

Elec is the most important. Holy comes second. (It murders Mind Rapers) With those 2, I can kill any non-boss very quickly.

Actually, I prefer Fire (Meteor) as I can kill any non-Fire Strong mobs and do 90+% damage to the Fire Strongs, and often kill them with a direct shot. Plus, Searing Skin's Bleed-like DOT helps to clean-up the survivors. Electric's biggest weakness is Blue Slime, which survive Chain Lightning far better than a Fire Fox/Hamster/Peacock survives Meteor. Still CL is my second shot, if needed, to catch survivors and resistors from the first shot.

Holy? Really? There are more Holy resistant mobs than most other magicks and mob Holy mit is far stronger than anything else. It takes up to 5 Smites to kill a Peacock. I can get the job done just as fast just by whacking it with my low ADM Staff.

Hmm, I guess equipment and Rating does play a factor in success. My Fire Rating is 32 + 10 from the Staff and my Elec is the usual 16 + 4 from Staff.

Still, in reference to Thanos' question Fire/Elec or Elec/Fire seems to be the most common pair. The other two Elements are more situational use. Blizzard, for example is nice to have versus a Zombie Cow or a Mantitcore/Fox combo.

Holy? Really? There are more Holy resistant mobs than most other magicks and mob Holy mit is far stronger than anything else. It takes up to 5 Smites to kill a Peacock. I can get the job done just as fast just by whacking it with my low ADM Staff.

Holy is very important for the legendaries, and perhaps that's what can make the "destruction" staffs better than the "elementalist" ones, because since the first ones benefits all types of magic instead only the elemental, of course I'm not talking the general use like IW/Fest where there's no legendaries to take down, there they're even.

And regarding the spells tactics I use thunderstorm first on blue slime and if it have CM proc'ed hit again with it, for now since I do't have much fire rating yet, I only use when there's mind reapers present, or if the blue slime resisted enough to have still HP high.

Edit: I also use fire with mantras too, appears to give more damage than thunderstorm.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 13 2010, 12:43

Holy? Really? There are more Holy resistant mobs than most other magicks and mob Holy mit is far stronger than anything else. It takes up to 5 Smites to kill a Peacock. I can get the job done just as fast just by whacking it with my low ADM Staff.

Yes, really. Maybe not against normal mobs, but I pretty much only fight mini-bosses these days and Purge is the second spell I cast after Thunderstorm. Some of that is to keep my proficiency up, but Holy is the best spell to use to kill Mind Rapers. Since I can generally 1-shot Manthras with a direct hit of Thunderstorm (or weaken them to the point that Purge kills them), I can manage it.

Yes, really. Maybe not against normal mobs, but I pretty much only fight mini-bosses these days and Purge is the second spell I cast after Thunderstorm. Some of that is to keep my proficiency up, but Holy is the best spell to use to kill Mind Rapers. Since I can generally 1-shot Manthras with a direct hit of Thunderstorm (or weaken them to the point that Purge kills them), I can manage it.

Seeing your AP distribution, it appears Element Rating is a strong factor in both of our methods. I went with Fire because its the first available of a new tier, Searing Skin, and my staff's Firs bonus is 6 more than Electric.

I have been doing Holy Grinds to prepare for the Legendary fights but, I haven't really been paying much attention to the results. I focus on hammering the Holy resistant with Smite to quickly build up prof while the mobs are still weak in the early rounds.

Now that I have reached 130 and harvested that tree, I think I will go back and re-acquire Elect I spells. Maybe with a higher Elec Rating the Blue Slime won't be as troublesome.

Gah, 150 is going suck. I want everything there -- 18 AP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by Alpha 7: Apr 13 2010, 20:31

I've read about lots of token of healing/blood/items in the special category dropping in various threads. I'm level 34 and haven't gotten one yet. Is there a level restriction on those drops?

I've read about lots of token of healing/blood/items in the special category dropping in various threads. I'm level 34 and haven't gotten one yet. Is there a level restriction on those drops?

Nope. They are generally found as a clear bonus for arenas, and are more likely to drop the higher the arena.

I've read about lots of token of healing/blood/items in the special category dropping in various threads. I'm level 34 and haven't gotten one yet. Is there a level restriction on those drops?

It's quite random. By the time I was your level, I had around 12 tokens of bloods. The healing tokens are pretty common from what I've seen.

It's quite random. By the time I was your level, I had around 12 tokens of bloods. The healing tokens are pretty common from what I've seen.

I think the ratio between Healing/Blood it was supposed to be 5:1

I think the ratio between Healing/Blood it was supposed to be 5:1

Hmmm... Wasn't it 10:1?

Hmmm... Wasn't it 10:1?

Maybe it's that type of things that tenb changed, but didn't remember to tell, here's the update where this is talked:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=22311

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 14 2010, 05:18

Maybe it's that type of things that tenb changed, but didn't remember to tell, here's the update where this is talked:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=22311

I don't know. This is approximately how many I've gotten total

35 tokens of blood
145 tokens of healing

Maybe it's that type of things that tenb changed, but didn't remember to tell, here's the update where this is talked:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=22311

Ok, so it was originally 10:1 then became 5:1.

I was just wondering if having a higher than 20 elemental/dark/holy mitigation is rare or very rare etc..

Cause i found this piece in the bazaar soon after I started playing and all the other pieces I see for sale have at most like 15.

I was just wondering if having a higher than 20 elemental/dark/holy mitigation is rare or very rare etc..

Cause i found this piece in the bazaar soon after I started playing and all the other pieces I see for sale have at most like 15.

yep. an armor that has elemental/holy/dark mitigation 20% or more is enough rare. if higher than that, I think that exist.

hmm... I think I'll count myself lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
And it wasn't very expensive...800-900ish

I was just wondering if having a higher than 20 elemental/dark/holy mitigation is rare or very rare etc..

Cause i found this piece in the bazaar soon after I started playing and all the other pieces I see for sale have at most like 15.

Very uncommon, but not so rare.

yep. an armor that has elemental/holy/dark mitigation 20% or more is enough rare. if higher than that, I think that exist.

Nope +25% is rare, and I saw one with +37% once

hmm... I think I'll count myself lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
And it wasn't very expensive...800-900ish

Yep very lucky

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 15 2010, 15:29

Nope +25% is rare, and I saw one with +37% once

wuih ~ ! 37 % mitigation ! a really nice armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Nope +25% is rare, and I saw one with +37% once

That was Hito's, right? I think that was generated pre-nerfing of equipment.